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Kenneth Moorman

OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA" From Our Kingston Trio Days

What follows is in no way to be taken as anything negative to Elecraft, but
here goes:

I ordered a KUSB from Elecraft on April 13th, a Sunday, and received word
that it shipped Tuesday evening, April 15th. The device has never arrived
here in Williamsburg, about 60 miles from Sandston, VA, 13 days later. The
tracking number yields the following very sad (to me at least) story of our
tax dollars very, very hard at work, apparently keeping the US airline
industry in the air. I apologize for the length, but it is what it is. At
least I don't need to worry about my "Charlie" needing a sandwich as it
passes and passes through the USPS distribution centers in Sandston and San
Jose:

April 26, 2014 , 1:54 am

Processed through USPS Sort Facility

SANDSTON, VA 23150

April 25, 2014 , 7:25 pm

Processed through USPS Sort Facility

SANDSTON, VA 23150

April 25, 2014 , 2:03 am

Processed through USPS Sort Facility

SANDSTON, VA 23150

April 23, 2014 , 12:24 am

Processed through USPS Sort Facility

SAN JOSE, CA 95101

April 21, 2014 , 8:24 pm

Processed through USPS Sort Facility

SANDSTON, VA 23150

April 21, 2014

Depart USPS Sort Facility

SANDSTON, VA 23150

April 20, 2014 , 11:51 am

Processed through USPS Sort Facility

SANDSTON, VA 23150

April 18, 2014 , 10:45 pm

Processed through USPS Sort Facility

SAN JOSE, CA 95101

April 16, 2014 , 9:19 am

Processed through USPS Sort Facility

WATSONVILLE, CA 95076

April 15, 2014

Depart USPS Sort Facility

SAN JOSE, CA 95101

April 15, 2014 , 10:48 pm

Processed through USPS Sort Facility

SAN JOSE, CA 95101

April 15, 2014

Electronic Shipping Info Received

April 15, 2014 , 4:18 pm

Acceptance

WATSONVILLE, CA 95076

73,

Ken, NU4I

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Scott Manthe-2

Re: OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA" From Our Kingston Trio Days

Our tax dollars don't support the USPS. And you'd have received you KUSB
a lot sooner had you called USPS to ask about it at the first sign of
trouble. Tracking info can be useful for something like this and you
could've used it to your advantage.

I guess that wouldn't have been the same story, though.

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 4/26/14 9:05 AM, Kenneth Moorman wrote:

>
>
> What follows is in no way to be taken as anything negative to Elecraft, but
> here goes:
>
> I ordered a KUSB from Elecraft on April 13th, a Sunday, and received word
> that it shipped Tuesday evening, April 15th. The device has never arrived
> here in Williamsburg, about 60 miles from Sandston, VA, 13 days later. The
> tracking number yields the following very sad (to me at least) story of our
> tax dollars very, very hard at work, apparently keeping the US airline
> industry in the air. I apologize for the length, but it is what it is. At
> least I don't need to worry about my "Charlie" needing a sandwich as it
> passes and passes through the USPS distribution centers in Sandston and San
> Jose:
>
>
>
>
> April 26, 2014 , 1:54 am
>
> Processed through USPS Sort Facility
>
> SANDSTON, VA 23150
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> April 25, 2014 , 7:25 pm
>
> Processed through USPS Sort Facility
>
> SANDSTON, VA 23150
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> April 25, 2014 , 2:03 am
>
> Processed through USPS Sort Facility
>
> SANDSTON, VA 23150
>
>
> April 23, 2014 , 12:24 am
>
> Processed through USPS Sort Facility
>
> SAN JOSE, CA 95101
>
>
> April 21, 2014 , 8:24 pm
>
> Processed through USPS Sort Facility
>
> SANDSTON, VA 23150
>
>
> April 21, 2014
>
> Depart USPS Sort Facility
>
> SANDSTON, VA 23150
>
>
> April 20, 2014 , 11:51 am
>
> Processed through USPS Sort Facility
>
> SANDSTON, VA 23150
>
>
> April 18, 2014 , 10:45 pm
>
> Processed through USPS Sort Facility
>
> SAN JOSE, CA 95101
>
>
> April 16, 2014 , 9:19 am
>
> Processed through USPS Sort Facility
>
> WATSONVILLE, CA 95076
>
>
> April 15, 2014
>
> Depart USPS Sort Facility
>
> SAN JOSE, CA 95101
>
>
> April 15, 2014 , 10:48 pm
>
> Processed through USPS Sort Facility
>
> SAN JOSE, CA 95101
>
>
> April 15, 2014
>
> Electronic Shipping Info Received
>
>
>
> April 15, 2014 , 4:18 pm
>
> Acceptance
>
> WATSONVILLE, CA 95076
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Ken, NU4I
>
>

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Milt -- N5IA

Re: OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days

My recently shipped Elecraft part arrived via USPS in three days time, from
California to New Mexico, via who knows where.

The United States Postal Service is a federal government agency.

The authority for the creation of the Post Office is found in the U.S.
Constitution at Article I, Section 8, which says, in part:

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts
and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general
welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be
uniform throughout the United States…

To establish post offices and post roads;"

Yes, it’s in the same clause that allows Congress to tax us and to raise an
army and a navy.

US Postal Service workers are FEDERAL employees.

The US Congress writes the rules, postal regulations and laws controlling
the Post Office..... a postal crime including graffiti on a post office
wall....is a FEDERAL CRIME.

The U.S. Postal Service is, by law, an "independent establishment" of the
executive branch.

The agency doesn't normally use tax dollars for operations, except when it
needs a loan to cover all the unfunded debt, it must, by Congressional act,
get that loan from the US Treasury. The USPS CANNOT borrow money from a
private lender.

The Postal Service has been borrowing billions of dollars from taxpayers in
recent years to make up shortfalls caused by declining mail volumes and a
2006 congressional mandate to prefund retirement health care benefits.

If I destroy a mailbox, it is a federal offense.

If I attack a mail person, it is a federal offense.

If I rob a mail truck, it is a federal offense.

And if your Elecraft part does not arrive in time, and does a 3-times-around
tour of the good ol' USA, it is NOT a federal offense.

73, and enjoy the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT been any USPS
mail delivery since 1912.

de Milt, N5IA
============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Manthe
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:58 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From
Our Kingston Trio Days

Our tax dollars don't support the USPS.

73,
Scott, N9AA

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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days

Re "the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT
been any USPS mail delivery since 1912": Yes, but
they now deliver for Amazon on Sundays!

Phil w7ox

On 4/26/14, 1:37 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote:

> My recently shipped Elecraft part arrived via
> USPS in three days time, from California to New
> Mexico, via who knows where.
>
> The United States Postal Service is a federal
> government agency.
>
> The authority for the creation of the Post
> Office is found in the U.S. Constitution at
> Article I, Section 8, which says, in part:
>
> "The Congress shall have power to lay and
> collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to
> pay the debts and provide for the common defense
> and general welfare of the United States; but
> all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform
> throughout the United States…
>
> To establish post offices and post roads;"
>
> Yes, it’s in the same clause that allows
> Congress to tax us and to raise an army and a navy.
>
> US Postal Service workers are FEDERAL employees.
>
> The US Congress writes the rules, postal
> regulations and laws controlling the Post
> Office..... a postal crime including graffiti on
> a post office wall....is a FEDERAL CRIME.
>
> The U.S. Postal Service is, by law, an
> "independent establishment" of the executive
> branch.
>
> The agency doesn't normally use tax dollars for
> operations, except when it needs a loan to cover
> all the unfunded debt, it must, by Congressional
> act, get that loan from the US Treasury. The
> USPS CANNOT borrow money from a private lender.
>
> The Postal Service has been borrowing billions
> of dollars from taxpayers in recent years to
> make up shortfalls caused by declining mail
> volumes and a 2006 congressional mandate to
> prefund retirement health care benefits.
>
> If I destroy a mailbox, it is a federal offense.
>
> If I attack a mail person, it is a federal offense.
>
> If I rob a mail truck, it is a federal offense.
>
> And if your Elecraft part does not arrive in
> time, and does a 3-times-around tour of the good
> ol' USA, it is NOT a federal offense.
>
> 73, and enjoy the upcoming Sabbath day where
> there has NOT been any USPS mail delivery since
> 1912.
>
> de Milt, N5IA
> ============================================================
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Scott Manthe
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:58 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version
> of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days
>
> Our tax dollars don't support the USPS.
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
>
>
>
>
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Nr4c

Re: OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days

In reply to this post by Milt -- N5IA

Sorry but the Richmond Virginia Postal Service delivered on Sundays during two weeks before Christmas during part of the 1950's.

Just like before eFile they stayed open 'till midnight on April 15th.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Apr 26, 2014, at 4:37 PM, "Milt -- N5IA" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> My recently shipped Elecraft part arrived via USPS in three days time, from California to New Mexico, via who knows where.
>
> The United States Postal Service is a federal government agency.
>
> The authority for the creation of the Post Office is found in the U.S. Constitution at Article I, Section 8, which says, in part:
>
> "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States…
>
> To establish post offices and post roads;"
>
> Yes, it’s in the same clause that allows Congress to tax us and to raise an army and a navy.
>
> US Postal Service workers are FEDERAL employees.
>
> The US Congress writes the rules, postal regulations and laws controlling the Post Office..... a postal crime including graffiti on a post office wall....is a FEDERAL CRIME.
>
> The U.S. Postal Service is, by law, an "independent establishment" of the executive branch.
>
> The agency doesn't normally use tax dollars for operations, except when it needs a loan to cover all the unfunded debt, it must, by Congressional act, get that loan from the US Treasury. The USPS CANNOT borrow money from a private lender.
>
> The Postal Service has been borrowing billions of dollars from taxpayers in recent years to make up shortfalls caused by declining mail volumes and a 2006 congressional mandate to prefund retirement health care benefits.
>
> If I destroy a mailbox, it is a federal offense.
>
> If I attack a mail person, it is a federal offense.
>
> If I rob a mail truck, it is a federal offense.
>
> And if your Elecraft part does not arrive in time, and does a 3-times-around tour of the good ol' USA, it is NOT a federal offense.
>
> 73, and enjoy the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT been any USPS mail delivery since 1912.
>
> de Milt, N5IA
> ============================================================
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Scott Manthe
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:58 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days
>
> Our tax dollars don't support the USPS.
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
>
>
>
>
> -----
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Phil Kane-2

Re: OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days

In reply to this post by Milt -- N5IA

On 4/26/2014 1:37 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote:

> 73, and enjoy the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT been any USPS
> mail delivery since 1912.

It all depends on whose Sabbath you are referring to. The USPS still
delivers mail on my Sabbath. There is talk of cutting deliveries to
three days a week, but all that will accomplish is to make larger
per-carrier loads to deliver, necessitating more carrier-hours, which
doesn't save money at all.

I applaud Elecraft's support of the USPS.
--

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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k6dgw

Re: OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days

In reply to this post by Phil Wheeler-2

And somewhat ironically, the USPS delivers for FedEx. Webber shipped me
a new set of grill grates for my BBQ via FedEx, sending me a
confirmation with a FedEx tracking number. It was delivered by a real
USPS employee in a real USPS truck with a real USPS tracking label on
the box. It was Thursday, I don't know if they do that on Sunday.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 4/26/2014 3:27 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
> Re "the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT been any USPS mail
> delivery since 1912": Yes, but they now deliver for Amazon on Sundays!
>
> Phil w7ox

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days

USPS also delivers for UPS. If you find a site that offers UPS Economy
shipping, the order will be shipped initially by UPS, but it is
delivered to your post office and it comes in your mailbox by the postal
carrier.
No Sunday deliveries here.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/26/2014 7:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> And somewhat ironically, the USPS delivers for FedEx. Webber shipped
> me a new set of grill grates for my BBQ via FedEx, sending me a
> confirmation with a FedEx tracking number. It was delivered by a real
> USPS employee in a real USPS truck with a real USPS tracking label on
> the box. It was Thursday, I don't know if they do that on Sunday.
>

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