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(OT} Spam influx

Alan Jump
With the spate of spam messages, I'd like to humbly suggest that the
list owner switch the list to Moderated status for a time...at least,
long enough for the spammers to get tired of their messages not getting out.

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Re: (OT} Spam influx

John Lemay
What spam influx ? No problems here, maybe my ISP deals with them.

John G4ZTR

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alan Jump
Sent: 13 November 2012 16:31
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] (OT} Spam influx

With the spate of spam messages, I'd like to humbly suggest that the
list owner switch the list to Moderated status for a time...at least,
long enough for the spammers to get tired of their messages not getting out.

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Re: (OT} Spam influx

N0AZZ
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They have been increasing lately it's a shame to.

Fred/N0AZZ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alan Jump
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:31 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] (OT} Spam influx

With the spate of spam messages, I'd like to humbly suggest that the list
owner switch the list to Moderated status for a time...at least, long enough
for the spammers to get tired of their messages not getting out.

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73 de N5ILN
Alan
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Re: (OT} Spam influx

Reginald J Mackey SR-3
no spam here!

Reggie k6xr


On Nov 13, 2012, at 09:10 AM, Fred Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

They have been increasing lately it's a shame to.

Fred/N0AZZ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alan Jump
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:31 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] (OT} Spam influx

With the spate of spam messages, I'd like to humbly suggest that the list
owner switch the list to Moderated status for a time...at least, long enough
for the spammers to get tired of their messages not getting out.

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Re: (OT} Spam influx

David Gilbert
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That won't accomplish anything other than to make a lot more work for
the Elecraft guys.  It doesn't cost the spammers the slightest
measurable bit extra ... in terms of money, time, or effort ... to send
messages to a dead end once they have the address.  The only thing that
it does is prevent them from being able to represent the address to
their reprehensible clients as a "premium" one ... i.e., vulnerable.

Besides, at least some of these spam emails are the result of some list
user's address book being compromised, and there's nothing to prevent
that happening to multiple users over and over again. Putting the list
on moderate status might make things nicer for us, but it doesn't make
the spammers go away ... ever.

Dave   AB7E



On 11/13/2012 9:31 AM, Alan Jump wrote:
> With the spate of spam messages, I'd like to humbly suggest that the
> list owner switch the list to Moderated status for a time...at least,
> long enough for the spammers to get tired of their messages not getting out.
>


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Re: (OT} Spam influx

Phil Hystad-3
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No spam here.  I might get, at most, one or two spam messages a week that make it thru my filters.  Once I declare it as junk via Mac mail, the signature is recognized and I never see that spam source again.  Unfortunately, this does not usually include the spam coming via Elecraft but still, it is not a problem -- even very infrequent from Elecraft reflector.

PEH's iPad

On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Reginald J Mackey SR <[hidden email]> wrote:

> no spam here!
>
> Reggie k6xr
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2012, at 09:10 AM, Fred Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> They have been increasing lately it's a shame to.
>
> Fred/N0AZZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alan Jump
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:31 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] (OT} Spam influx
>
> With the spate of spam messages, I'd like to humbly suggest that the list
> owner switch the list to Moderated status for a time...at least, long enough
> for the spammers to get tired of their messages not getting out.
>
> --
> 73 de N5ILN
> Alan
> NAQCC # 6139
> ARRL EmComm Field Instructor
> ARES Assistant District Emergency Coordinator Monterey County, CA
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Re: (OT} Spam influx

Gary Smith-2
By now we all should know what SPAM is by either the header alone or
a non-sensical message & link. Sometimes just the link alone with no
real message is the obvious but regardless, don't click on it & do
click delete.

Gary
KA1J

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Re: (OT} Spam influx

Jim Low man
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Exactly.  Obviously, anyone who suggests changing the list to moderated
status has never been a moderator.
This only works if there are several moderators who have time to check
the messages awaiting approval throughout the day.
On a list this active, if that doesn't happen, messages are delayed, and
the value of the list diminishes to its members.
Then there are the complaints to be dealt with also, about messages not
posting in a timely manner.

Eric has a business to run.  This is a hassle that he doesn't need.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 11/13/2012 9:43 AM, David Gilbert wrote:

> That won't accomplish anything other than to make a lot more work for
> the Elecraft guys.  It doesn't cost the spammers the slightest
> measurable bit extra ... in terms of money, time, or effort ... to send
> messages to a dead end once they have the address.  The only thing that
> it does is prevent them from being able to represent the address to
> their reprehensible clients as a "premium" one ... i.e., vulnerable.
>
> Besides, at least some of these spam emails are the result of some list
> user's address book being compromised, and there's nothing to prevent
> that happening to multiple users over and over again. Putting the list
> on moderate status might make things nicer for us, but it doesn't make
> the spammers go away ... ever.
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>

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Re: (OT} Spam influx

Bob KD7YZ
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On Tuesday SR used a Straight-Key to send:
-------------Original Comment-------
> no spam here!


I've received dozens of Lam-Radio "List" emails where, in every case,
the respective Ham owns a YAHOO free email account and their account
password has been hacked/compromised. Literally Dozens just today.

Some people need to take some Internet Security classes comparable to the
studying they did to get licensed. Yahoo, for one, may lead the world,
along with Hotmail, in the frequency of which their "customers" get
Hacked on a per-year basis.

Many of us have auto-Spam-reject. Those compromised email addresses get
put on a Blacklist. Automatically. We don't see it happen and we don't
get email from our friends anymore either ... until we figure out they were
compromised and "Their" address sent out 100,000 Spam Emails, world-wide,
and garnered them a Blacklist status across the globe.


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Best regards,
Bob  KD7YZ    Win7-64bit + K3

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Re: (OT} Spam influx

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
Administrator
In reply to this post by David Gilbert
Thread closed in the interest of keeping list volume under control.
Please do not discuss spam on the list - It only serves to cause further
interference to the normal threads of discussion..

The list server at qth.net already has a lot of anti-spam filtering, but
when a spammer uses a legit subscribed address for a poster, it can
sometimes slip through.

Please contact the moderator if you have further concerns.

73,

Eric
Lost moderator ---
www.elecraft.com

On 11/13/2012 9:43 AM, David Gilbert wrote:

> That won't accomplish anything other than to make a lot more work for
> the Elecraft guys.  It doesn't cost the spammers the slightest
> measurable bit extra ... in terms of money, time, or effort ... to send
> messages to a dead end once they have the address.  The only thing that
> it does is prevent them from being able to represent the address to
> their reprehensible clients as a "premium" one ... i.e., vulnerable.
>
> Besides, at least some of these spam emails are the result of some list
> user's address book being compromised, and there's nothing to prevent
> that happening to multiple users over and over again. Putting the list
> on moderate status might make things nicer for us, but it doesn't make
> the spammers go away ... ever.
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 11/13/2012 9:31 AM, Alan Jump wrote:
>> With the spate of spam messages, I'd like to humbly suggest that the
>> list owner switch the list to Moderated status for a time...at least,
>> long enough for the spammers to get tired of their messages not getting out.
>>
>
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Re: (OT} Spam influx

Terry Schieler-2
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And, unfortunately, AT&T chooses to use Yahoo to process email for AT&T customers, so AT&T email domains like mine that end in @swbell.net, @sbcglobal.net, @bellsouth.net, @att.net, etc are as vulnerable as the accounts that actually say "Yahoo" in the address.  Don't let the fact that your email domain does not say YAHOO lull you into a false sense of security.  I found that out the hard way.  

Maybe AT&T is listening.  
Naw.


Terry, W0FM


-----Original Message-----
From: KD7YZ Bob [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:49 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT} Spam influx


On Tuesday SR used a Straight-Key to send:
-------------Original Comment-------
> no spam here!


I've received dozens of Lam-Radio "List" emails where, in every case, the respective Ham owns a YAHOO free email account and their account password has been hacked/compromised. Literally Dozens just today.

Some people need to take some Internet Security classes comparable to the studying they did to get licensed. Yahoo, for one, may lead the world, along with Hotmail, in the frequency of which their "customers" get Hacked on a per-year basis.

Many of us have auto-Spam-reject. Those compromised email addresses get put on a Blacklist. Automatically. We don't see it happen and we don't get email from our friends anymore either ... until we figure out they were compromised and "Their" address sent out 100,000 Spam Emails, world-wide, and garnered them a Blacklist status across the globe.


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Bob  KD7YZ    Win7-64bit + K3



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Re: (OT} Spam influx

M0AFJ
I've had a Yahoo e mail account now for some years, never been hacked, you just need to take a little care, don't open anything you are not sure of..

Best regards, Tim Hague
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:07, "Terry Schieler" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> And, unfortunately, AT&T chooses to use Yahoo to process email for AT&T customers, so AT&T email domains like mine that end in @swbell.net, @sbcglobal.net, @bellsouth.net, @att.net, etc are as vulnerable as the accounts that actually say "Yahoo" in the address.  Don't let the fact that your email domain does not say YAHOO lull you into a false sense of security.  I found that out the hard way.  
>
> Maybe AT&T is listening.  
> Naw.
>
>
> Terry, W0FM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KD7YZ Bob [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:49 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT} Spam influx
>
>
> On Tuesday SR used a Straight-Key to send:
> -------------Original Comment-------
>> no spam here!
>
>
> I've received dozens of Lam-Radio "List" emails where, in every case, the respective Ham owns a YAHOO free email account and their account password has been hacked/compromised. Literally Dozens just today.
>
> Some people need to take some Internet Security classes comparable to the studying they did to get licensed. Yahoo, for one, may lead the world, along with Hotmail, in the frequency of which their "customers" get Hacked on a per-year basis.
>
> Many of us have auto-Spam-reject. Those compromised email addresses get put on a Blacklist. Automatically. We don't see it happen and we don't get email from our friends anymore either ... until we figure out they were compromised and "Their" address sent out 100,000 Spam Emails, world-wide, and garnered them a Blacklist status across the globe.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bob  KD7YZ    Win7-64bit + K3
>
>
>
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Re: (OT} Spam influx

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
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This thread was closed yesterday.

73,

Eric
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On 11/14/2012 8:16 AM, Tim Hague wrote:

> I've had a Yahoo e mail account now for some years, never been hacked, you just need to take a little care, don't open anything you are not sure of..
>
> Best regards, Tim Hague
> Skype m0afj.Tim
> Sent on my iPad
>
>
> On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:07, "Terry Schieler" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> And, unfortunately, AT&T chooses to use Yahoo to process email for AT&T customers, so AT&T email domains like mine that end in @swbell.net, @sbcglobal.net, @bellsouth.net, @att.net, etc are as vulnerable as the accounts that actually say "Yahoo" in the address.  Don't let the fact that your email domain does not say YAHOO lull you into a false sense of security.  I found that out the hard way.
>>
>> Maybe AT&T is listening.
>> Naw.
>>
>>
>> Terry, W0FM
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: KD7YZ Bob [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:49 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT} Spam influx
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday SR used a Straight-Key to send:
>> -------------Original Comment-------
>>> no spam here!
>>
>> I've received dozens of Lam-Radio "List" emails where, in every case, the respective Ham owns a YAHOO free email account and their account password has been hacked/compromised. Literally Dozens just today.
>>
>> Some people need to take some Internet Security classes comparable to the studying they did to get licensed. Yahoo, for one, may lead the world, along with Hotmail, in the frequency of which their "customers" get Hacked on a per-year basis.
>>
>> Many of us have auto-Spam-reject. Those compromised email addresses get put on a Blacklist. Automatically. We don't see it happen and we don't get email from our friends anymore either ... until we figure out they were compromised and "Their" address sent out 100,000 Spam Emails, world-wide, and garnered them a Blacklist status across the globe.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Bob  KD7YZ    Win7-64bit + K3
>>
>>
>>
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the instructions for loading macros say...

Jeff Herr
In reply to this post by Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
On the KX3 front panel, hold CONFIG and adjust VFO B until the word "MACROS"
appears in the VFO B area.


What is CONFIG?  I don't see it....

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Re: the instructions for loading macros say...

Jeff Herr
Oops, I found "not applicable to the KX3
at present"


as long as I am not missing something....





-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jeff Herr
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 17:15
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] the instructions for loading macros say...

On the KX3 front panel, hold CONFIG and adjust VFO B until the word "MACROS"
appears in the VFO B area.


What is CONFIG?  I don't see it....

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