OT: Trade K2 for Drake TR4CW/RIT or C line

[Fernando Quinones]

Hello.

Anyone have one that they would like to trade?

I have a excellent K2 with all options except the 60m and DSP.

If yours is pristine I can sweeten the deal

with the 100w amp and 100w tuner (both unbuilt in the box), ec2..

Package worth over $1000.

email: n2fq at sbcglobal dot net.

tnx.. for the bandwidth

Fernando  N2FQ




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[Brett gazdzinski-2]

I had an R4c and T4xb? with added 160 meter crystals.
I cant say I liked it much, they had an odd tuning setup,
and I thought it was crazy to mix transistors and IC chips
in with the tube circuits they way they did,
in high voltage points and in line with the tubes.
Look at the R4C schematic and tell me that it does not
look crazy, IC chips at over 100 volts and so on!

It might be hard to keep one going with that kind of mix.

The filter setup worked very well, very nice looking gear
and it was a very nice sounding radio, seemed to have very clean
audio on cw and ssb, low noise, but was not user friendly.

I paid $400.00 for the pair, in like new shape
about 5 years ago, at a fest, and sold it for
less a few years later....

I am sure the K2 would be a LOT easier to use on the air.
The old tube stuff has preselector peak, then you tune up the
transmitter, then the antenna tuner each time you
change frequency much. Band changes can take a while...

That's also why I got rid of the KWM2-a, not frequency
agile, and CW was an afterthought and poorly done.

That's not as much of a problem if you operate around
some favorite frequency, but otherwise it gets old quick.

Its amazing how lazy one gets with the new stuff!
Push a button and the rig is tuned up and ready to go.
Push another button and you change bands and are
tuned up and ready to go!

Its HARD to go back to the old way....

>From memory, there are different analog scales on the
r4 series, and one tunes backwards? That requires a bit
of getting used to.
 
Brett
N2DTS



 

> -----Original Message-----
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> Fernando Quinones
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:52 PM
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> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Trade K2 for Drake TR4CW/RIT or C line
>
> Hello.
>
> Anyone have one that they would like to trade?
>
> I have a excellent K2 with all options except the 60m and DSP.
>
> If yours is pristine I can sweeten the deal
>
> with the 100w amp and 100w tuner (both unbuilt in the box), ec2..
>
> Package worth over $1000.
>
> email: n2fq at sbcglobal dot net.
>
> tnx.. for the bandwidth
>
> Fernando  N2FQ
>
>
>
>
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[roncasa]

Brett gazdzinski wrote:

> I had an R4c and T4xb? with added 160 meter crystals.
> I cant say I liked it much, they had an odd tuning setup,
> and I thought it was crazy to mix transistors and IC chips
> in with the tube circuits they way they did,
> in high voltage points and in line with the tubes.
> Look at the R4C schematic and tell me that it does not
> look crazy, IC chips at over 100 volts and so on!
>
> It might be hard to keep one going with that kind of mix.
>
> The filter setup worked very well, very nice looking gear
> and it was a very nice sounding radio, seemed to have very clean
> audio on cw and ssb, low noise, but was not user friendly.
>
>  

 
Hi Brett,

When those radios were built, solid state was coming into it's infancy.
Even tellies were hybrids during that era.
Progress improved and they became more solid state and less tube type.

The "mix", as you refer to it, was not done on purpose. The first area
of solid state I suspect, was in the tuner section and technology
advanced from there.

The radios ARE user friendly. You probably grew up in solid state era
(like me) where the radios do the work for you. (menu-driven) We all
have become accustomed and expect the "machines" to work for us. I too
am guilty of that (heh heh).
It takes me only a few seconds to tune the radio once the learning curve
was mastered. There are NO menus or other stuff to learn.

The Drake line made very good radios in their day and they are still
popular and work well under trying conditions.
Google Drake and you will find a wealth of info, more so than any other
American made brand in their day.

Ron, wb1hga
"the K1 is more fun, than a barrel of monkeys"



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[Thom LaCosta]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, ron wrote:

> The Drake line made very good radios in their day and they are still popular
> and work well under trying conditions.
> Google Drake and you will find a wealth of info, more so than any other
> American made brand in their day.

www.zerobeat.net/drakelist/
and of course, the associated mailing list.

73,Thom-k3hrn
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[Darrell Bellerive-2]

On April 11, 2007 09:04 am, ron wrote:
> The radios ARE user friendly. You probably grew up in solid state era
> (like me) where the radios do the work for you. (menu-driven) We all
> have become accustomed and expect the "machines" to work for us. I too
> am guilty of that (heh heh).
> It takes me only a few seconds to tune the radio once the learning curve
> was mastered. There are NO menus or other stuff to learn.

One function per control and big widely spaced knobs. Give me rotary
switches any day over push buttons. The old rigs had great ergonomics.
Small rigs are good for mobile or portable operation, but for home use a
nice big front panel is such a pleasure to use. Menus are simply a way to
reduce the size, number of controls, and cost of a rig.


--
Darrell Bellerive
Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA
Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada
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