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OT: radio broadcast commercials

Ken Kopp-2
Hi Don, others ....

XM satellite radio is the answer for us.  Great while
soldering on the K2 project.

Have a (tiny) receiver with a built-in transmitter installed
in the car and it "rebroadcasts" to all the FM receivers
in the house when we're home.  Also serves the neighbors
if they so choose. (:-))

We do also listen to Oregon Public Radio.

73! Ken Kopp
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Re: OT: radio broadcast commercials

dave.wilburn
For those hams that help with emergency communications, an XM satellite
radio can be a great help whether or not your subscribe to their
service.  Channel 247 is a free channel and is always on.  If you are
have local emergencies (weather, natural, or man made) there will be
useful information repeatedly broadcast over this channel.  For those of
you that have a car that has an XM satellite radio in it, and you
haven't gotten the service, check this channel out.  It is quite handy.
  "We will now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcast....".

David Wilburn
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Ken Kopp wrote:

> Hi Don, others ....
>
> XM satellite radio is the answer for us.  Great while
> soldering on the K2 project.
>
> Have a (tiny) receiver with a built-in transmitter installed
> in the car and it "rebroadcasts" to all the FM receivers
> in the house when we're home.  Also serves the neighbors
> if they so choose. (:-))
>
> We do also listen to Oregon Public Radio.
>
> 73! Ken Kopp
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Re: OT: radio broadcast commercials

Thom LaCosta
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, David Wilburn wrote:

> For those hams that help with emergency communications, an XM satellite radio
> can be a great help whether or not your subscribe to their service.

Somehow I can't imagine too many folks having an XM radio who don'st subscribe
to the service....unless they happened to by a radio that has XM in addition to
FM.

There's a move afoot by the non-satellite broadcasters ... HDRadio.  Some
stations are offering that mode to reach other audience types.  In Washington
DC, WAMU has their normal NPR and other high-minded local progamming on the
regular FM channel and channel 1 of HD radio.  One of the other channels appeals
to the "new" music folks and rebroadcasts the signal of a Public Radio station
on Towson, Maryland, while the thrid channel on HD radio rebroadcasts the
content from www.bluegrassradio.org

I wouldn't call the service commercial-free...it has the obligatory twice-yearly
begging week, and quite a few of the "institutional" announcements for
"contributors", which might be called low-key image advertisements by sponsors
on the commercial frequencies.

The hardware side of things is truly amazing....you'll need to drop around 175
bucks for an HDD tabletop that could kindly be called "mid-fideltiy"....and near
400 bucks for an upscale component system that ain't that much to write home
about.

I'm hoping that some enterprizing compnay will come out with a tuner/convertor
that would allow one to receive the channels and pipe them into whatever audio
system a listener has.

Thom

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Re: OT: radio broadcast commercials

Thom LaCosta
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Phil Kane wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:34:58 -0500 (EST), Thom LaCosta wrote:
>
>  iBiquity has a proprietary lock on the encoding and decoding
>  systems and they aren't letting go.  They "sweetheart dealed"
>  the NPR-affiliated stations into a "loss leader" early adoption
>  program.

Interesting...yet there doesn;t seem to be a "loss leader" program for the end
user.

I view many of the NPR stations as thinly disgused cash cows.  WAMU used to have
bluegrass on M-F from noon til 6, and most of Saturday and Sunday daytimes.
During each begging session, us rednecks did our thing.

And so with money coming in, the station decided to kick the blue grass off
during the week and move it to a web based operation...where of course they
begged for money.

So now, with HD radio, the listeners who could no longer hear the music in their
cars or combines could buy a new radio.



> The experience of the other broadcasters in the San
>  Francisco area is that IBOC on FM (the real name of "HD Radio")
>  causes significant degradation of signal.  IBOC on AM is even
>  worse.

Yep...when WAMU was jiggering stuff pre HD Radio programming, I noticed that
there was a huge reduction in reception up here.  Now during the begging
sessions, no one mentions the contributions coming in from Pennsylvania, West
Virginia and the southern part of Virginia....because folks simply can't hear
the station.

>
>  Unless "they" come up with a better system, I and a lot  of my
>  colleagues want no part of it.

Gee, have you forgoten that "Less is More" can always explain away a downturn?

I can't tell, since I've only heard HD radio in a Radio Shack store on their
table top(which they don't turn on much, since the reception isn't as good as at
20 buck portable on FM, but the NPR types are saying the sound quality os so
much better than conventional FM.  Is that correct?

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Re: OT: radio broadcast commercials

Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
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I have heard that one thing about satellite radio is that only sometimes
is the reception from satellites...the rest of the time it is repeated
from terrestrial stations, especially in dense urban areas, which might
be more pront to disruption during emergencies.
Leigh/WA5ZNU
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:39 am, David Wilburn wrote:
> For those hams that help with emergency communications, an XM satellite
> radio can be a great help whether or not your subscribe to their
> service.  Channel 247 is a free channel and is always on.
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