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Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

Mike Markowski
My 11 year old son KB3KYB has been fascinated by my recent K2 kit
building.  He has never soldered but is excited about the idea of
building a radio of his own.  With his birthday coming up this would be
the perfect chance to get him a small kit that we could build together.

I thought a shortwave receiver with a few bands would be best since it's
simpler & cheaper.  Though I'm also considering a "cake tin special,"
getting the parts to homebrew one of the old tube beginner rigs built on
an upside down cake pan.  Any ideas would be very welcome.  Thanks!

Mike  AB3AP
Avondale, PA
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Re: Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

David Toepfer
Hobbytron has a lot of simpler kits to choose from
(<http://www.hobbytron.com/electronickits.html>), including a soldering starter
kit (<http://www.hobbytron.com/solder_kit.html>).

dt
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--- Mike Markowski <[hidden email]> wrote:

> My 11 year old son KB3KYB has been fascinated by my recent K2 kit
> building.  He has never soldered but is excited about the idea of
> building a radio of his own.  With his birthday coming up this would be
> the perfect chance to get him a small kit that we could build together.
>
> I thought a shortwave receiver with a few bands would be best since it's
> simpler & cheaper.  Though I'm also considering a "cake tin special,"
> getting the parts to homebrew one of the old tube beginner rigs built on
> an upside down cake pan.  Any ideas would be very welcome.  Thanks!
>
> Mike  AB3AP
> Avondale, PA
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Re: Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

David Toepfer
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NOTE: they have an amateur radio kist section too
(<http://www.hobbytron.com/amateur_index.html>)

dt
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--- David Toepfer <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hobbytron has a lot of simpler kits to choose from
> (<http://www.hobbytron.com/electronickits.html>), including a soldering
> starter
> kit (<http://www.hobbytron.com/solder_kit.html>).
>
> dt
> .
>
> --- Mike Markowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > My 11 year old son KB3KYB has been fascinated by my recent K2 kit
> > building.  He has never soldered but is excited about the idea of
> > building a radio of his own.  With his birthday coming up this would be
> > the perfect chance to get him a small kit that we could build together.
> >
> > I thought a shortwave receiver with a few bands would be best since it's
> > simpler & cheaper.  Though I'm also considering a "cake tin special,"
> > getting the parts to homebrew one of the old tube beginner rigs built on
> > an upside down cake pan.  Any ideas would be very welcome.  Thanks!
> >
> > Mike  AB3AP
> > Avondale, PA
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RE: Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

Matt and Kelly
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Try the "Rock-Mite" from www.smallwonderlabs.com

Great first project starter kit.  Single band CW kit.

Matt - K7OE

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Subject: [Elecraft] Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

My 11 year old son KB3KYB has been fascinated by my recent K2 kit
building.  He has never soldered but is excited about the idea of
building a radio of his own.  With his birthday coming up this would be
the perfect chance to get him a small kit that we could build together.

I thought a shortwave receiver with a few bands would be best since it's
simpler & cheaper.  Though I'm also considering a "cake tin special,"
getting the parts to homebrew one of the old tube beginner rigs built on
an upside down cake pan.  Any ideas would be very welcome.  Thanks!

Mike  AB3AP
Avondale, PA
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RE: Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
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To meet the criteria of being "first time" and "tube" I'd go for a one tube
regen receiver based on a 1T4 or similar tube that can be run from batteries
and drive a headphone. You'd need 1.5 volts for the filament and fairly
low-voltage B+ - something in the range of 27 to 45 volts depending upon the
sensitivity of the phones. Use magnetic phones and you can put them in the
plate circuit as the plate "load". Three to five 9-volt batteries snapped
together into a series pack will handle that, eliminating any need for a
mains power supply.

I'd suggest covering the AM broadcast band. It's really easy to pick up
signals there and get used to the receiver. Then my second choice would be
the 6 to 10 MHz region of the shortwave bands: lots of signals, CW and AM to
copy there.

In fact, Midnight Science makes just such a kit: http://tinyurl.com/dn5vx

I was just a little younger than you son when my Dad gave me a Meissner
regen kit. I learned to solder building it. I still remember the look in his
face when I turned it on and we heard signals!

It's a good thing you are doing, Mike

Ron AC7AC


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My 11 year old son KB3KYB has been fascinated by my recent K2 kit building.
He has never soldered but is excited about the idea of building a radio of
his own.  With his birthday coming up this would be the perfect chance to
get him a small kit that we could build together.

I thought a shortwave receiver with a few bands would be best since it's
simpler & cheaper.  Though I'm also considering a "cake tin special,"
getting the parts to homebrew one of the old tube beginner rigs built on an
upside down cake pan.  Any ideas would be very welcome.  Thanks!

Mike  AB3AP
Avondale, PA
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Re: Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

W7RY
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They just look like a re-seller of Ramsey
kits:  http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/

73
Jim W7RY



RamAt 12:42 PM 5/11/2005, David Toepfer wrote:

>NOTE: they have an amateur radio kist section too
>(<http://www.hobbytron.com/amateur_index.html>)
>
>dt
>.
>
>--- David Toepfer <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hobbytron has a lot of simpler kits to choose from
> > (<http://www.hobbytron.com/electronickits.html>), including a soldering
> > starter
> > kit (<http://www.hobbytron.com/solder_kit.html>).
> >
> > dt
> > .
> >
> > --- Mike Markowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > My 11 year old son KB3KYB has been fascinated by my recent K2 kit
> > > building.  He has never soldered but is excited about the idea of
> > > building a radio of his own.  With his birthday coming up this would be
> > > the perfect chance to get him a small kit that we could build together.
> > >
> > > I thought a shortwave receiver with a few bands would be best since it's
> > > simpler & cheaper.  Though I'm also considering a "cake tin special,"
> > > getting the parts to homebrew one of the old tube beginner rigs built on
> > > an upside down cake pan.  Any ideas would be very welcome.  Thanks!
> > >
> > > Mike  AB3AP
> > > Avondale, PA
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Re: Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
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Since your son has his general, here are some ideas for transmitters:
1. Tuna Tin 2
See amqrp web site.
2. GlowBug 40
1W 40M one-tube transmitter.  See their web site.  Not as dangerous as
some other tube kits.
3. K1 or KX1
He won't be able to build it himself, but you know it will work and be
useful if you do it together!
4. And last, because it is not available now
The Norcal QRP Tin Ear DC receiver.
You may be able to get one from a kit hoarder.
See the AMQRP site for details.  Too bad they don't have them.
73,
Leigh / WA5ZNU
On Wed, 11 May 2005 12:29 pm, Mike Markowski wrote:
> My 11 year old son KB3KYB has been fascinated by my recent K2 kit
> building.  He has never soldered but is excited about the idea of
> building a radio of his own.
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RE: Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

Brian Wruble
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Hi Mike:  You're in for a lot of fun.  My daughter, Zane, who is now 16
built (95% --- I wound the toroids) a K2 at the age of about 12 or 13,
including the SSB/160M/60M/DSP/Noise Blanker/100Watt etc. etc.  The rig came
out great, and it is in regular use.

The warm up was an MFJ receiver kit and a couple of little kits from Ramsey
--- I think a strobe light and some other small thing.  

These kids have great vision, nice small fingers, and pretty good focus.
Zane and I double-checked every component before she soldered it in, and the
basic K-2 was near perfect the first time.  Once they learn to solder,
everything else comes easily.  We worked on it only 2-3 hours a weekend, but
it was a great father/daughter experience.

Zane would rather build kits than operate them, which is just fine.  I get
to use the gear!

If you are an adept builder, I think there is no reason to shy away from a
complicated kit as a first or secong project.  Just make sure you're working
side-by-side with your son.

73 de Brian W3BW

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Subject: [Elecraft] Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

My 11 year old son KB3KYB has been fascinated by my recent K2 kit
building.  He has never soldered but is excited about the idea of
building a radio of his own.  With his birthday coming up this would be
the perfect chance to get him a small kit that we could build together.

I thought a shortwave receiver with a few bands would be best since it's
simpler & cheaper.  Though I'm also considering a "cake tin special,"
getting the parts to homebrew one of the old tube beginner rigs built on
an upside down cake pan.  Any ideas would be very welcome.  Thanks!

Mike  AB3AP
Avondale, PA
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Re: TNX! - Off topic: beginner kit recommendations?

Mike Markowski
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Mike Markowski wrote on 05/11/05 15:28 ET:
> My 11 year old son KB3KYB has been fascinated by my recent K2 kit
> building.  [...]

Wow, guys, I want to say thanks to each and every one who responded both
on and off list!  I didn't expect nearly so many replies.  All are very
helpful, and now I have some web surfing and a whole lot of thinking to do.

Thank you very much!
Mike  AB3AP
Avondale, PA
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KX1 ATU

Matt and Kelly
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Just finished building my KX1, and I have a question:

Does the KX1 internal antenna tuner automatically re-tune as the frequency
is changed within a band, or does it require tuning each time the frequency
is changed? For example, if I tune the antenna at 14015, and then move to
14050, do I need to manually retune?

Thanks.

Matt - K7OE

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