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NK7Z

Re: Off-topic, but I need help.

I would leave the list if it went to a message board, sorting would be
impossible, and given the "random walk" this list allows with regards to
subject, sorting is needed.

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 12/29/18 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:

> I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its
> filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might
> like. Message boards are a chore, IMHO. The Elecraft list is an example
> of a wide breadth of topics that virtually demand some sort of filtering
> to allow a specific point-of-entry.
>
> ...robert
>
> On 12/29/2018 12:47, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Barry,
>>
>> Nabble is not controlled by Elecraft, contact the Nabble administrator
>> about that problem.
>> The only email group that Elecraft controls is the Elecraft email list
>> from elecraft at mailman dot qth dot net.
>>
>> Please *don't* switch to a message board! I can't find anything on
>> those things.
>> I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 12/29/2018 6:03 AM, Barry wrote:
>>> I think there's something more broken with Nabble, as there are
>>> plenty of
>>> posts that include the model number in the title that aren't filtered
>>> to the
>>> correct subgroup.
>>>
>>> I really wish management would join the 21st century and switch from
>>> email
>>> to a message board to eliminate all the useless emails for those of us
>>> who
>>> don't own every Elecraft product.
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NK7Z

Re: Off-topic, but I need help.

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Jim,
I sometimes add a "save" subdirectory to a main directory, if something
I want comes in, and I want to be sure it is never deleted, I copy it to
the save folder.

I might look into the auto delete thing I mentioned upthread.

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
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Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest
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ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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On 12/29/18 5:10 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> Yes. I read more than two dozen email reflectors, and Thunderbird makes
> it all very easy. Every reflector has its own mailbox (that shows up as
> a folder), and I occasionally add a folder for special discussions (like
> FD, county expeditions, tech projects). Those special emails get
> hand-sorted.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On 12/29/2018 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
>> I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its
>> filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one
>> might like.
>
>
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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

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Thank you Don. The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 to 400 watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands the kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm<[hidden email]> wrote: Ken,

Look at your Icom 7600 documentation. I believe the 'keyword' may be
"Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an input to
the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix them up
causing confusion - check the documentation).
Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500 AMP KEY
connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the KPA500.
That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the KAT500
needs to tune.

You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling. When you get
the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom, but the basic
cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
> Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the accessory cable which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500. Elecraft is sending one but it might take a week. In the mean time does anyone have the accessory pin outs to rca plug so i can make one and use my new toy.
> Thank youKenKc1icn

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Neil Zampella

Re: Off-topic, but I need help.

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FWIW .. I've got my K2/100 running FT8 right now ... just in time for
the next RTTY contest where its a new mode :)

Neil, KN3ILZ
K2/100 SN: 7788
KX3 SN: 6596

On 12/29/2018 7:05 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

> On 12/29/2018 12:14 PM, W2xj wrote:
>
>> It is just that too many do not seem to have fully grasped email after about 3 plus decades.
> When one cuts one's teeth on torn-tape Telex/Teleprinter systems of the
> 1950s/60s, e-mail is the greatest thing since sliced bread.! And I
> don't have to send a line of BELLS to get the message center to ACK
> receipt of the message!
>
> Makes me want to fire up the K2 for the next RTTY contest...... :)
>
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
>
> >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
>

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Nr4c

Re: Off-topic, but I need help.

In reply to this post by NK7Z

What is the “Subject” of this thread.

I’m looking for the one about someone wanting to unsubscribe a SK.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I would leave the list if it went to a message board, sorting would be impossible, and given the "random walk" this list allows with regards to subject, sorting is needed.
>
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL OOC for Oregon
>
>> On 12/29/18 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
>> I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might like. Message boards are a chore, IMHO. The Elecraft list is an example of a wide breadth of topics that virtually demand some sort of filtering to allow a specific point-of-entry.
>> ...robert
>>> On 12/29/2018 12:47, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> Barry,
>>>
>>> Nabble is not controlled by Elecraft, contact the Nabble administrator
>>> about that problem.
>>> The only email group that Elecraft controls is the Elecraft email list
>>> from elecraft at mailman dot qth dot net.
>>>
>>> Please *don't* switch to a message board! I can't find anything on
>>> those things.
>>> I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>>> On 12/29/2018 6:03 AM, Barry wrote:
>>>> I think there's something more broken with Nabble, as there are plenty of
>>>> posts that include the model number in the title that aren't filtered
>>>> to the
>>>> correct subgroup.
>>>>
>>>> I really wish management would join the 21st century and switch from
>>>> email
>>>> to a message board to eliminate all the useless emails for those of us
>>>> who
>>>> don't own every Elecraft product.
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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W2xj

Re: Off-topic, but I need help.

Look back to the beginning of this thread. There are many on point responses.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 10:40 PM, Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> What is the “Subject” of this thread.
>
> I’m looking for the one about someone wanting to unsubscribe a SK.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I would leave the list if it went to a message board, sorting would be impossible, and given the "random walk" this list allows with regards to subject, sorting is needed.
>>
>> 73s and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest
>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL OOC for Oregon
>>
>>> On 12/29/18 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
>>> I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might like. Message boards are a chore, IMHO. The Elecraft list is an example of a wide breadth of topics that virtually demand some sort of filtering to allow a specific point-of-entry.
>>> ...robert
>>>> On 12/29/2018 12:47, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>>> Barry,
>>>>
>>>> Nabble is not controlled by Elecraft, contact the Nabble administrator
>>>> about that problem.
>>>> The only email group that Elecraft controls is the Elecraft email list
>>>> from elecraft at mailman dot qth dot net.
>>>>
>>>> Please *don't* switch to a message board! I can't find anything on
>>>> those things.
>>>> I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/29/2018 6:03 AM, Barry wrote:
>>>>> I think there's something more broken with Nabble, as there are plenty of
>>>>> posts that include the model number in the title that aren't filtered
>>>>> to the
>>>>> correct subgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>> I really wish management would join the 21st century and switch from
>>>>> email
>>>>> to a message board to eliminate all the useless emails for those of us
>>>>> who
>>>>> don't own every Elecraft product.
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Elecraft mailing list
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Phil Kane-2

Re: Off-topic, but I need help.

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On 12/29/2018 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:

> I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its
> filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might
> like. Message boards are a chore, IMHO. The Elecraft list is an example
> of a wide breadth of topics that virtually demand some sort of filtering
> to allow a specific point-of-entry.

Like Don, I have T-Bird filter my messages into subfolders - top-level
is [Elecraft] and then to K2, K3, KPA, and KX. K2 is my default. Makes
it very easy to deal with.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Phil Kane-2

Re: Off-topic, but I need help.

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On 12/29/2018 6:47 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:

> I sometimes add a "save" subdirectory to a main directory, if something
> I want comes in, and I want to be sure it is never deleted, I copy it to
> the save folder.

Me too also. Another trick is to add a space before the "save" that
puts it at the top of the stack.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

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Don Wilhelm

Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

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Ken,

Do you have the cable wired first to the KAT500 and then on to the KPA500?
The KAT500 must interrupt the keying of the KPA500 when it needs to tune.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 10:13 PM, Ken B wrote:

> Thank you Don.
> The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 to 400
> watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands
> the kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Look at your Icom 7600 documentation. I believe the 'keyword' may be
> "Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an
> input to
> the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix them up
> causing confusion - check the documentation).
> Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500 AMP KEY
> connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the KPA500.
> That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the KAT500
> needs to tune.
>
> You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling. When you get
> the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom, but the
> basic
> cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
> > Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the
> accessory cable which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500.
> Elecraft is sending one but it might take a week. In the mean time
> does anyone have the accessory pin outs to rca plug so i can make
> one and use my new toy.
> > Thank youKenKc1icn
>

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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Yes from the 7600 accessory 1 pin 3 to the kat500

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Don Wilhelm<[hidden email]> wrote: Ken,

Do you have the cable wired first to the KAT500 and then on to the KPA500?
The KAT500 must interrupt the keying of the KPA500 when it needs to tune.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 10:13 PM, Ken B wrote:

> Thank you Don.
> The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 to 400
> watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands
> the kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Look at your Icom 7600 documentation. I believe the 'keyword' may be
> "Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an
> input to
> the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix them up
> causing confusion - check the documentation).
> Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500 AMP KEY
> connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the KPA500.
> That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the KAT500
> needs to tune.
>
> You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling. When you get
> the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom, but the
> basic
> cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
> > Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the
> accessory cable which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500.
> Elecraft is sending one but it might take a week. In the mean time
> does anyone have the accessory pin outs to rca plug so i can make
> one and use my new toy.
> > Thank youKenKc1icn
>

Don Wilhelm

Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Ken,

If that Send cable is the only one you have connected between your Icom
and the KAT500, you need to feed a bit of RF to initiate a TUNE

The KAT500 will first look for a saved L/C combination for that antenna
and frequency and will switch to that rather than doing a TUNE.
Secondly, it will compute the SWR and if it is below 1.5, it will go
into bypass - no tuning is necessary.

Is it possible that either one of those conditions exist?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/30/2018 6:12 AM, Ken B wrote:

> Yes from the 7600 accessory 1 pin 3 to the kat500
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Don Wilhelm
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Do you have the cable wired first to the KAT500 and then on to the
> KPA500?
> The KAT500 must interrupt the keying of the KPA500 when it needs
> to tune.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/29/2018 10:13 PM, Ken B wrote:
> > Thank you Don.
> > The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 to
> 400
> > watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands
> > the kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp.
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>>
>
>
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm
> > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> > Ken,
> >
> > Look at your Icom 7600 documentation. I believe the
> 'keyword' may be
> > "Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an
> > input to
> > the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix
> them up
> > causing confusion - check the documentation).
> > Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500
> AMP KEY
> > connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the
> KPA500.
> > That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the
> KAT500
> > needs to tune.
> >
> > You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling. When
> you get
> > the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom,
> but the
> > basic
> > cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
> > > Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the
> > accessory cable which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500.
> > Elecraft is sending one but it might take a week. In the mean
> time
> > does anyone have the accessory pin outs to rca plug so i can make
> > one and use my new toy.
> > > Thank youKenKc1icn
> >
>

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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Thanks for the suggestion
Sorry for the delay the wife and I went out. The only way I can get it all to work properly is to:- Remove AC power from the AMP (simply turning it off dowes not work) - On the radio (icom 7600) select the band (ensure auto tuner on Radio is off) - On Radio select AM and depress PTT - While holding PTT, hit the tune button on the KAT500 - Let if get to 1.2 and stop - Let go PTT and select SSB on Radio- Plug in AC power to KPA and power on - On KPA select the proper band- On the KPA select operate from Standby
All works until I change bands then it is start from the top Cleared all memory
Wish Elecraft was open on Monday.
ThanksKen

From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Ken,

If that Send cable is the only one you have connected between your Icom
and the KAT500, you need to feed a bit of RF to initiate a TUNE

The KAT500 will first look for a saved L/C combination for that antenna
and frequency and will switch to that rather than doing a TUNE.
Secondly, it will compute the SWR and if it is below 1.5, it will go
into bypass - no tuning is necessary.

Is it possible that either one of those conditions exist?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/30/2018 6:12 AM, Ken B wrote:

> Yes from the 7600 accessory 1 pin 3 to the kat500
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Don Wilhelm
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Do you have the cable wired first to the KAT500 and then on to the
> KPA500?
> The KAT500 must interrupt the keying of the KPA500 when it needs
> to tune.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/29/2018 10:13 PM, Ken B wrote:
> > Thank you Don.
> > The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 to
> 400
> > watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands
> > the kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp.
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature>>
>
>
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm
> > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> > Ken,
> >
> > Look at your Icom 7600 documentation. I believe the
> 'keyword' may be
> > "Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an
> > input to
> > the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix
> them up
> > causing confusion - check the documentation).
> > Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500
> AMP KEY
> > connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the
> KPA500.
> > That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the
> KAT500
> > needs to tune.
> >
> > You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling. When
> you get
> > the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom,
> but the
> > basic
> > cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
> > > Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the
> > accessory cable which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500.
> > Elecraft is sending one but it might take a week. In the mean
> time
> > does anyone have the accessory pin outs to rca plug so i can make
> > one and use my new toy.
> > > Thank youKenKc1icn
> >
>

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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

The folks in Watsonville are taking a well deserved rest, but some of us are still around. This sounds a lot like a grounding issue in your setup with ground being completed through the wall power ground pin. Tell me exactly all of the cables/connections going to the KPA500 (and from where). While you are at it you might as well do the same for the KAT500. I’ll try to decipher what is going on from this information and hopefully get a good solution for you quickly.

73!
Jack, W6FB
Elecraft Engineering

> On Dec 30, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Ken B via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestion
> Sorry for the delay the wife and I went out. The only way I can get it all to work properly is to:- Remove AC power from the AMP (simply turning it off dowes not work) - On the radio (icom 7600) select the band (ensure auto tuner on Radio is off) - On Radio select AM and depress PTT - While holding PTT, hit the tune button on the KAT500 - Let if get to 1.2 and stop - Let go PTT and select SSB on Radio- Plug in AC power to KPA and power on - On KPA select the proper band- On the KPA select operate from Standby
> All works until I change bands then it is start from the top Cleared all memory
> Wish Elecraft was open on Monday.
> ThanksKen
>
> From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable
>
> Ken,
>
> If that Send cable is the only one you have connected between your Icom
> and the KAT500, you need to feed a bit of RF to initiate a TUNE
>
> The KAT500 will first look for a saved L/C combination for that antenna
> and frequency and will switch to that rather than doing a TUNE.
> Secondly, it will compute the SWR and if it is below 1.5, it will go
> into bypass - no tuning is necessary.
>
> Is it possible that either one of those conditions exist?
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/30/2018 6:12 AM, Ken B wrote:
>> Yes from the 7600 accessory 1 pin 3 to the kat500
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Don Wilhelm
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Ken,
>>
>> Do you have the cable wired first to the KAT500 and then on to the
>> KPA500?
>> The KAT500 must interrupt the keying of the KPA500 when it needs
>> to tune.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 12/29/2018 10:13 PM, Ken B wrote:
>> > Thank you Don.
>> > The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 to
>> 400
>> > watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands
>> > the kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> >
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm
>> > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>> > Ken,
>> >
>> > Look at your Icom 7600 documentation. I believe the
>> 'keyword' may be
>> > "Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an
>> > input to
>> > the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix
>> them up
>> > causing confusion - check the documentation).
>> > Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500
>> AMP KEY
>> > connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the
>> KPA500.
>> > That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the
>> KAT500
>> > needs to tune.
>> >
>> > You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling. When
>> you get
>> > the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom,
>> but the
>> > basic
>> > cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Don W3FPR
>> >
>> > On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
>> > > Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the
>> > accessory cable which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500.
>> > Elecraft is sending one but it might take a week. In the mean
>> time
>> > does anyone have the accessory pin outs to rca plug so i can make
>> > one and use my new toy.
>> > > Thank youKenKc1icn
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Please allow me to clairify. Everyone deserves time off. I work 60 to 70 hrs per week and appricate the down time
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Jack Brindle<[hidden email]> wrote: The folks in Watsonville are taking a well deserved rest, but some of us are still around. This sounds a lot like a grounding issue in your setup with ground being completed through the wall power ground pin. Tell me exactly all of the cables/connections going to the KPA500 (and from where). While you are at it you might as well do the same for the KAT500. I’ll try to decipher what is going on from this information and hopefully get a good solution for you quickly.

73!
Jack, W6FB
Elecraft Engineering

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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Yeah, but we really want to get the problem solved so you can enjoy your KPA500 and KAT500 as much as we enjoy ours.
That connection list will be most helpful in this effort.

My thinking on the ground issue is that the power-plug ground is completing a circuit that should not exist and thus disrupting
operations on band change. The question would be what is connected to ground that should not be, and where?
Are the KPA and KATs kits or did they come assembled?

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Dec 30, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Ken B <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Please allow me to clairify. Everyone deserves time off. I work 60 to 70 hrs per week and appricate the down time
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Jack Brindle
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> The folks in Watsonville are taking a well deserved rest, but some of us are still around. This sounds a lot like a grounding issue in your setup with ground being completed through the wall power ground pin. Tell me exactly all of the cables/connections going to the KPA500 (and from where). While you are at it you might as well do the same for the KAT500. I’ll try to decipher what is going on from this information and hopefully get a good solution for you quickly.
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
> Elecraft Engineering
>
>
> > On Dec 30, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Ken B via Elecraft <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion
> > Sorry for the delay the wife and I went out. The only way I can get it all to work properly is to:- Remove AC power from the AMP (simply turning it off dowes not work) - On the radio (icom 7600) select the band (ensure auto tuner on Radio is off) - On Radio select AM and depress PTT - While holding PTT, hit the tune button on the KAT500 - Let if get to 1.2 and stop - Let go PTT and select SSB on Radio- Plug in AC power to KPA and power on - On KPA select the proper band- On the KPA select operate from Standby
> > All works until I change bands then it is start from the top Cleared all memory
> > Wish Elecraft was open on Monday.
> > ThanksKen
> >
> > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> > To: "[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>" <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>; "[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>" <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > If that Send cable is the only one you have connected between your Icom
> > and the KAT500, you need to feed a bit of RF to initiate a TUNE
> >
> > The KAT500 will first look for a saved L/C combination for that antenna
> > and frequency and will switch to that rather than doing a TUNE.
> > Secondly, it will compute the SWR and if it is below 1.5, it will go
> > into bypass - no tuning is necessary.
> >
> > Is it possible that either one of those conditions exist?
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 12/30/2018 6:12 AM, Ken B wrote:
> >> Yes from the 7600 accessory 1 pin 3 to the kat500
> >>
> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers%E2%81%A1_wl=ym%E2%81%A1_sub1=Internal%E2%81%A1_sub2=Global_YGrowth%E2%81%A1_sub3=EmailSignature>>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Don Wilhelm
> >> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> Do you have the cable wired first to the KAT500 and then on to the
> >> KPA500?
> >> The KAT500 must interrupt the keying of the KPA500 when it needs
> >> to tune.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
> >>
> >> On 12/29/2018 10:13 PM, Ken B wrote:
> >> > Thank you Don.
> >> > The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 to
> >> 400
> >> > watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands
> >> > the kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >> >
> >> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers%E2%81%A1_wl=ym%E2%81%A1_sub1=Internal%E2%81%A1_sub2=Global_YGrowth%E2%81%A1_sub3=EmailSignature>
> >> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers%E2%81%A1_wl=ym%E2%81%A1_sub1=Internal%E2%81%A1_sub2=Global_YGrowth%E2%81%A1_sub3=EmailSignature>>>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm
> >> > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>> wrote:
> >> > Ken,
> >> >
> >> > Look at your Icom 7600 documentation. I believe the
> >> 'keyword' may be
> >> > "Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an
> >> > input to
> >> > the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix
> >> them up
> >> > causing confusion - check the documentation).
> >> > Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500
> >> AMP KEY
> >> > connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the
> >> KPA500.
> >> > That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the
> >> KAT500
> >> > needs to tune.
> >> >
> >> > You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling. When
> >> you get
> >> > the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom,
> >> but the
> >> > basic
> >> > cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.
> >> >
> >> > 73,
> >> > Don W3FPR
> >> >
> >> > On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
> >> > > Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the
> >> > accessory cable which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500.
> >> > Elecraft is sending one but it might take a week. In the mean
> >> time
> >> > does anyone have the accessory pin outs to rca plug so i can make
> >> > one and use my new toy.
> >> > > Thank youKenKc1icn
>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Good evening  The Icom IC-7600 KAT500, and KPA500 are each grounded to a single terminal strip with a #10 cable directly to a ground rod 15 ft away. The rod is 12 ft deep. Both the KAP and KTA were factory built as my soldering skills have diminished since the Army training.

The IC7600 - In the back of the 7600 is a 4 conductor molex connector. The Icom made cable splits into 2 connections on the KAT, the first is plugged into DC power, and the second is plugged into the Tuner connection
- In the back of the 7600 is also a 7 conductor DIM connection (Acc2). I made a cable to connect pin 3 to the KAT PTT RLY

The KAT  - Other than mentioned above ant1 goes out to the antenna- XMTR is connected via a 2 ft piece of LMR400 to the output of the KAP- The unlabeled connector above the PTT RLY goes to the PA Key of the KAP

The KAP - Other than what is mentioned above the only other connection is a piece of LMR400 from Ant1 on the 7600 to input on the KAP.

From: Jack Brindle <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Yeah, but we really want to get the problem solved so you can enjoy your KPA500 and KAT500 as much as we enjoy ours.That connection list will be most helpful in this effort.
My thinking on the ground issue is that the power-plug ground is completing a circuit that should not exist and thus disruptingoperations on band change. The question would be what is connected to ground that should not be, and where?Are the KPA and KATs kits or did they come assembled?
73!Jack, W6FB

On Dec 30, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Ken B <[hidden email]> wrote:
Please allow me to clairify. Everyone deserves time off. I work 60 to 70 hrs per week and appricate the down time
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Jack Brindle<[hidden email]> wrote: The folks in Watsonville are taking a well deserved rest, but some of us are still around. This sounds a lot like a grounding issue in your setup with ground being completed through the wall power ground pin. Tell me exactly all of the cables/connections going to the KPA500 (and from where). While you are at it you might as well do the same for the KAT500. I’ll try to decipher what is going on from this information and hopefully get a good solution for you quickly.

73!
Jack, W6FB
Elecraft Engineering

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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Great! Thanks for the detail. Table 2 on page 8 of the KAT500 manual should have given you the exact connections you needed to make for the Molex to KAT500 cable. Note that the plug o the KAt500 end is stereo with tip, ring and sleeve. Please recheck these connections to make sure that pin 4 of the Molex does indeed go to the sleeve of the mini-phone plug. It would be best to ohm out the cable to make sure the signals go to the right places and there are no shorts between pins.

Table 3 on that same page shows the Key-line connections, which I suspect are correct at the point. In any case be sure to check that cable as well.

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Dec 30, 2018, at 4:13 PM, Ken B <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Good evening
>
> The Icom IC-7600 KAT500, and KPA500 are each grounded to a single terminal strip with a #10 cable directly to a ground rod 15 ft away. The rod is 12 ft deep. Both the KAP and KTA were factory built as my soldering skills have diminished since the Army training.
>
>
> The IC7600
> - In the back of the 7600 is a 4 conductor molex connector. The Icom made cable splits into 2 connections on the KAT, the first is plugged into DC power, and the second is plugged into the Tuner connection
>
> - In the back of the 7600 is also a 7 conductor DIM connection (Acc2). I made a cable to connect pin 3 to the KAT PTT RLY
>
>
> The KAT
> - Other than mentioned above ant1 goes out to the antenna
> - XMTR is connected via a 2 ft piece of LMR400 to the output of the KAP
> - The unlabeled connector above the PTT RLY goes to the PA Key of the KAP
>
>
> The KAP
> - Other than what is mentioned above the only other connection is a piece of LMR400 from Ant1 on the 7600 to input on the KAP.
>
> From: Jack Brindle <[hidden email]>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 5:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable
>
> Yeah, but we really want to get the problem solved so you can enjoy your KPA500 and KAT500 as much as we enjoy ours.
> That connection list will be most helpful in this effort.
>
> My thinking on the ground issue is that the power-plug ground is completing a circuit that should not exist and thus disrupting
> operations on band change. The question would be what is connected to ground that should not be, and where?
> Are the KPA and KATs kits or did they come assembled?
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
>> On Dec 30, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Ken B <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>> Please allow me to clairify. Everyone deserves time off. I work 60 to 70 hrs per week and appricate the down time
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Jack Brindle
>> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>> The folks in Watsonville are taking a well deserved rest, but some of us are still around. This sounds a lot like a grounding issue in your setup with ground being completed through the wall power ground pin. Tell me exactly all of the cables/connections going to the KPA500 (and from where). While you are at it you might as well do the same for the KAT500. I’ll try to decipher what is going on from this information and hopefully get a good solution for you quickly.
>>
>> 73!
>> Jack, W6FB
>> Elecraft Engineering
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 30, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Ken B via Elecraft <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for the suggestion
>> > Sorry for the delay the wife and I went out. The only way I can get it all to work properly is to:- Remove AC power from the AMP (simply turning it off dowes not work) - On the radio (icom 7600) select the band (ensure auto tuner on Radio is off) - On Radio select AM and depress PTT - While holding PTT, hit the tune button on the KAT500 - Let if get to 1.2 and stop - Let go PTT and select SSB on Radio- Plug in AC power to KPA and power on - On KPA select the proper band- On the KPA select operate from Standby
>> > All works until I change bands then it is start from the top Cleared all memory
>> > Wish Elecraft was open on Monday.
>> > ThanksKen
>> >
>> > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>> > To: "[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>" <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>; "[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>" <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>> > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:39 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable
>> >
>> > Ken,
>> >
>> > If that Send cable is the only one you have connected between your Icom
>> > and the KAT500, you need to feed a bit of RF to initiate a TUNE
>> >
>> > The KAT500 will first look for a saved L/C combination for that antenna
>> > and frequency and will switch to that rather than doing a TUNE.
>> > Secondly, it will compute the SWR and if it is below 1.5, it will go
>> > into bypass - no tuning is necessary.
>> >
>> > Is it possible that either one of those conditions exist?
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Don W3FPR
>> >
>> > On 12/30/2018 6:12 AM, Ken B wrote:
>> >> Yes from the 7600 accessory 1 pin 3 to the kat500
>> >>
>> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> >> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers%E2%81%A1_wl=ym%E2%81%A1_sub1=Internal%E2%81%A1_sub2=Global_YGrowth%E2%81%A1_sub3=EmailSignature>>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Don Wilhelm
>> >> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>> >> Ken,
>> >>
>> >> Do you have the cable wired first to the KAT500 and then on to the
>> >> KPA500?
>> >> The KAT500 must interrupt the keying of the KPA500 when it needs
>> >> to tune.
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >> Don W3FPR
>> >>
>> >> On 12/29/2018 10:13 PM, Ken B wrote:
>> >> > Thank you Don.
>> >> > The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 to
>> >> 400
>> >> > watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands
>> >> > the kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> >> >
>> >> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers%E2%81%A1_wl=ym%E2%81%A1_sub1=Internal%E2%81%A1_sub2=Global_YGrowth%E2%81%A1_sub3=EmailSignature>
>> >> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers⁡_wl=ym⁡_sub1=Internal⁡_sub2=Global_YGrowth⁡_sub3=EmailSignature <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers%E2%81%A1_wl=ym%E2%81%A1_sub1=Internal%E2%81%A1_sub2=Global_YGrowth%E2%81%A1_sub3=EmailSignature>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm
>> >> > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>> wrote:
>> >> > Ken,
>> >> >
>> >> > Look at your Icom 7600 documentation. I believe the
>> >> 'keyword' may be
>> >> > "Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an
>> >> > input to
>> >> > the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix
>> >> them up
>> >> > causing confusion - check the documentation).
>> >> > Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500
>> >> AMP KEY
>> >> > connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the
>> >> KPA500.
>> >> > That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the
>> >> KAT500
>> >> > needs to tune.
>> >> >
>> >> > You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling. When
>> >> you get
>> >> > the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom,
>> >> but the
>> >> > basic
>> >> > cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73,
>> >> > Don W3FPR
>> >> >
>> >> > On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
>> >> > > Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the
>> >> > accessory cable which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500.
>> >> > Elecraft is sending one but it might take a week. In the mean
>> >> time
>> >> > does anyone have the accessory pin outs to rca plug so i can make
>> >> > one and use my new toy.
>> >> > > Thank youKenKc1icn
>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ______________________________________________________________
>> > Elecraft mailing list
>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>
>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm>
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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

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That's not nearly enough. EVERYTHING in your home must be bonded
together -- power, telco, CATV, your antennas, and all ground rods. Two
places to learn it -- N0AX's recent ARRL book on grounding and bonding,
and my own tutorial, upon which much of Ward's book is based.

http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

Also -- as noted in my tutorial, EVERYTHING connected with your station,
including computers and other accessories connected to your rig) should
get power from the same outlet, or from outlets whose green wires (third
pin) are bonded together in your shack. This is just as important as
bonding.

73, Jim K9YC

On 12/30/2018 4:13 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
> Good evening The Icom IC-7600 KAT500, and KPA500 are each grounded to a single terminal strip with a #10 cable directly to a ground rod 15 ft away. The rod is 12 ft deep. Both the KAP and KTA were factory built as my soldering skills have diminished since the Army training.

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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

I can easily attest that all the grounds are bonded together in the panel.
Everything related to the station is on the same strip with a 0 ohm potential to the ground rod
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On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 8:32 PM, Jim Brown<[hidden email]> wrote: That's not nearly enough. EVERYTHING in your home must be bonded
together -- power, telco, CATV, your antennas, and all ground rods. Two
places to learn it -- N0AX's recent ARRL book on grounding and bonding,
and my own tutorial, upon which much of Ward's book is based.

http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

Also -- as noted in my tutorial, EVERYTHING connected with your station,
including computers and other accessories connected to your rig) should
get power from the same outlet, or from outlets whose green wires (third
pin) are bonded together in your shack. This is just as important as
bonding.

73, Jim K9YC

On 12/30/2018 4:13 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
> Good evening The Icom IC-7600 KAT500, and KPA500 are each grounded to a single terminal strip with a #10 cable directly to a ground rod 15 ft away. The rod is 12 ft deep. Both the KAP and KTA were factory built as my soldering skills have diminished since the Army training.

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Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

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Thank you - I followed Fig 3 on page 10 which is specific to ICOM. Yes all cables ohm'd out with no shorts

From: Jack Brindle <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Great! Thanks for the detail. Table 2 on page 8 of the KAT500 manual should have given you the exact connections you needed to make for the Molex to KAT500 cable. Note that the plug o the KAt500 end is stereo with tip, ring and sleeve. Please recheck these connections to make sure that pin 4 of the Molex does indeed go to the sleeve of the mini-phone plug. It would be best to ohm out the cable to make sure the signals go to the right places and there are no shorts between pins.
Table 3 on that same page shows the Key-line connections, which I suspect are correct at the point. In any case be sure to check that cable as well.
73!Jack, W6FB

On Dec 30, 2018, at 4:13 PM, Ken B <[hidden email]> wrote:
Good evening  The Icom IC-7600 KAT500, and KPA500 are each grounded to a single terminal strip with a #10 cable directly to a ground rod 15 ft away. The rod is 12 ft deep. Both the KAP and KTA were factory built as my soldering skills have diminished since the Army training.

The IC7600 - In the back of the 7600 is a 4 conductor molex connector. The Icom made cable splits into 2 connections on the KAT, the first is plugged into DC power, and the second is plugged into the Tuner connection
- In the back of the 7600 is also a 7 conductor DIM connection (Acc2). I made a cable to connect pin 3 to the KAT PTT RLY

The KAT  - Other than mentioned above ant1 goes out to the antenna- XMTR is connected via a 2 ft piece of LMR400 to the output of the KAP- The unlabeled connector above the PTT RLY goes to the PA Key of the KAP

The KAP - Other than what is mentioned above the only other connection is a piece of LMR400 from Ant1 on the 7600 to input on the KAP.

From: Jack Brindle <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

Yeah, but we really want to get the problem solved so you can enjoy your KPA500 and KAT500 as much as we enjoy ours.That connection list will be most helpful in this effort.
My thinking on the ground issue is that the power-plug ground is completing a circuit that should not exist and thus disruptingoperations on band change. The question would be what is connected to ground that should not be, and where?Are the KPA and KATs kits or did they come assembled?
73!Jack, W6FB

On Dec 30, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Ken B <[hidden email]> wrote:
Please allow me to clairify. Everyone deserves time off. I work 60 to 70 hrs per week and appricate the down time
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On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Jack Brindle<[hidden email]> wrote: The folks in Watsonville are taking a well deserved rest, but some of us are still around. This sounds a lot like a grounding issue in your setup with ground being completed through the wall power ground pin. Tell me exactly all of the cables/connections going to the KPA500 (and from where). While you are at it you might as well do the same for the KAT500. I’ll try to decipher what is going on from this information and hopefully get a good solution for you quickly.

73!
Jack, W6FB
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