Operating remotely via Direct TV satellite provider

[Don Strom]

Is anyone operating their K3 remotely using a satellite provider.

I believe I heard that is not possible with satellite internet at the remote site?

Something to do with the way the audio is passed via the internet connection.

Don W0EAR

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The main problem is latency.  It can affect audio spending on how it is
buffered.

Doug -- K0DXV

On 4/9/2016 8:23 PM, Don Strom wrote:

> Is anyone operating their K3 remotely using a satellite provider.
>
> I believe I heard that is not possible with satellite internet at the remote site?
>
> Something to do with the way the audio is passed via the internet connection.
>
> Don W0EAR
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[David Gilbert]

Not sure about the audio, but I think latency would be the bigger
issue.  I had satellite internet (essentially Hughes. net) for about
three years before a wireless ISP opened shop in our area.  My typical
pings were on the order of 1300-1500 msec.  I don't think you'd want to
live with that for anything other than casual ragchewing.

Dave   AB7E



On 4/9/2016 8:23 PM, Don Strom wrote:
> Is anyone operating their K3 remotely using a satellite provider.
>
> I believe I heard that is not possible with satellite internet at the remote site?
>
> Something to do with the way the audio is passed via the internet connection.
>
> Don W0EAR
>
>

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[Cliff Frescura]

Yes, the signal has to travel ~22,300 miles x 2 (up and down).

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

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Not sure about the audio, but I think latency would be the bigger issue.  I
had satellite internet (essentially Hughes. net) for about three years
before a wireless ISP opened shop in our area.  My typical pings were on the
order of 1300-1500 msec.  I don't think you'd want to live with that for
anything other than casual ragchewing.

Dave   AB7E



On 4/9/2016 8:23 PM, Don Strom wrote:
> Is anyone operating their K3 remotely using a satellite provider.
>
> I believe I heard that is not possible with satellite internet at the
remote site?
>
> Something to do with the way the audio is passed via the internet
connection.
>
> Don W0EAR
>
>

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[Charlie T, K3ICH]

You can't violate the laws of nature.  That
satellite is 24,000 miles up, so every time you
access the net, there's an absolute minimum of a ½
second delay before you see the response on your
screen.
Since light travels at 186,000 miles per second,
you're stuck with the time delay of four trips
equaling a tad under 100,000 miles.
I typically get 10 to 20 MB speed on Exede
satellite, but that ½ sec makes it seem much
slower.
(My only alternative is 56k land line which I
would find totally obnoxious to have to go back
to.)

73, Charlie k3ICH


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Not sure about the audio, but I think latency
would be the bigger issue.  I had satellite
internet (essentially Hughes. net) for about three
years before a wireless ISP opened shop in our
area.  My typical pings were on the order of
1300-1500 msec.  I don't think you'd want to live
with that for anything other than casual
ragchewing.

Dave   AB7E



On 4/9/2016 8:23 PM, Don Strom wrote:
> Is anyone operating their K3 remotely using a
satellite provider.
>
> I believe I heard that is not possible with
satellite internet at the remote site?
>
> Something to do with the way the audio is passed
via the internet connection.
>
> Don W0EAR
>
>

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[Phil Kane-2]

On 4/9/2016 9:03 PM, Cliff Frescura wrote:

> Yes, the signal has to travel ~22,300 miles x 2 (up and down).

In the early days of satellite telephone circuits (late 1960s - early
1970s  before they used echo suppressors) the audible echo was about 3
seconds.  Very disconcerting.
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Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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