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Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

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Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult field conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field Day, of course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well beyond this, conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new technology, even recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.

Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading to the present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly compact, multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of the AX1 and its accessories.

No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us about your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best? Where could things have been improved? For example, when you were clinging to a tree limb using an inverted vertical last winter, could you still hear signals above the blizzard? On that ironman run, did you need an antenna that deploys with one hand? Maybe an integrated speech-to-FT8 converter? And when you embellish your tales beside a campfire, should your detachable keyer paddle double as a bottle opener?

A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter. All of them will help inform and inspire the next generation of Elecraft's outdoor product line.

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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

Jim Brown-10
How about KH6JF/MM?

https://ae5x.blogspot.com/2018/03/hf-voyager-ocean-going-drone-with-kx3.html

73, Jim K9YC

On 12/18/2018 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Tell us about your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best?


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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

Thorpe, Jeffrey
Since the KXPD3 has two paddles, why not a bottle opener on one, and a can opener on the other?

Jeff - KG7HDZ

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> How about KH6JF/MM?
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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

Nr4c
How about a small plastic “toothpick” imbedded in one paddle and a small stainless “tweezer” in the other (ala Victorianox)?

Sent from my iphone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 18, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Thorpe, Jeffrey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Since the KXPD3 has two paddles, why not a bottle opener on one, and a can opener on the other?
>
> Jeff - KG7HDZ
>
>> On Dec 18, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> How about KH6JF/MM?
>>
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>> 73, Jim K9YC
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>>> On 12/18/2018 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

Bob N3MNT
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How about KH6JF/MM?
Is KH6JF/MM running 2.0 or 1.9 ?



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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

Don Wilhelm
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Glue a Swiss Army Knife to the side and you have all of that and more.
Of course, you can no longer carry it in the passenger cabin of an
aircraft - TSA will confiscate the entire radio if it is glued.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2018 4:57 PM, Nr4c wrote:

> How about a small plastic “toothpick” imbedded in one paddle and a small stainless “tweezer” in the other (ala Victorianox)?
>
> Sent from my iphone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Dec 18, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Thorpe, Jeffrey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Since the KXPD3 has two paddles, why not a bottle opener on one, and a can opener on the other?
>>
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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

ke9uw
I carried the smallest Swiss Army knife with the little 1 inch blade, scissors, and tooth pick onto a cruise out of Orlando once and they confiscated it. When we got on the boat, in our suite, there was a bar with a cork screw, knives and forks in the drawer, etc. Kind of ridiculous. But they gave it back to me after the cruise.


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Glue a Swiss Army Knife to the side and you have all of that and more.
Of course, you can no longer carry it in the passenger cabin of an
aircraft - TSA will confiscate the entire radio if it is glued.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2018 4:57 PM, Nr4c wrote:

> How about a small plastic “toothpick” imbedded in one paddle and a small stainless “tweezer” in the other (ala Victorianox)?
>
> Sent from my iphone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Dec 18, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Thorpe, Jeffrey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Since the KXPD3 has two paddles, why not a bottle opener on one, and a can opener on the other?
>>
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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

k6dgw
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Well ... leaving Tucson AZ a few years ago, we were approaching TSA
security when I discovered my Swiss Army Knife in a pocket of my cargo
shorts.  I had a small carry-on so I unzipped my shaving kit and tucked
it inside figuring it would be gone.  I wear braces on my legs and carry
some scrap metal in my shoulder and am toast at TSA anyway.  I got the
usual close inspection, but my knife made it through unscathed.  OTOH,
that shaving kit, a Christmas present, contained a teeny little
fingernail scissors and file in one of the side pockets that I didn't
know about.  TSA found them and took nearly 30 min to decide what to do
with them ... despite my telling them to just throw them away.

To really be useful, a Swiss Army knife can't really be glued to anything.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 12/18/2018 2:14 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Glue a Swiss Army Knife to the side and you have all of that and more.
> Of course, you can no longer carry it in the passenger cabin of an
> aircraft - TSA will confiscate the entire radio if it is glued.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>

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Swiss Army Knife

Don Wilhelm
My Swiss Army Knife was a gift from a ham is Switzerland, and I am not
keen to lose or damage it.  It usually stays at my desk.
It is different from those common here in the US - it has black sides
and not the red sides usually seen.
The knife in my pocket is a 3 bladed Case knife.  I guess I like that
brand since I went to Case Institute of Technology - but they are good
knives that can keep a keen edge for a long time.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2018 6:19 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

> To really be useful, a Swiss Army knife can't really be glued to anything.
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Re: Swiss Army Knife

Wes Stewart-2
Mine, a small "Executive" model was a gift from my late wife.  Before she passed
we took an Alaskan cruise, round trip out of Seattle.  On the flight from Tucson
I put the knife in checked baggage but on the return trip after checking my
luggage I remembered it was in my carry-on camera case.  When the bag went
through the scanner I could see the guy moving the conveyor belt forward and
back and figured my goose was cooked.  So I said something like, "Damn I think I
left my pen knife in that bag."  He said, "Okay take it out and show me."  of
course, he declared it contraband.  Since we were holding up the line, I was
just going to surrender it and move on.  My wife threw a fit and the agent said,
"Take it over there."  It turns out they have a counter just for stuff like
this.  She took it there and for $8 they put it in an envelope and mailed it to us.

Sadly she is gone, but I still have the knife.

Wes  N7WS


On 12/18/2018 4:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> My Swiss Army Knife was a gift from a ham is Switzerland, and I am not keen to
> lose or damage it.  It usually stays at my desk.
> It is different from those common here in the US - it has black sides and not
> the red sides usually seen.
> The knife in my pocket is a 3 bladed Case knife.  I guess I like that brand
> since I went to Case Institute of Technology - but they are good knives that
> can keep a keen edge for a long time.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR

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Re: Swiss Army Knife

Thorpe, Jeffrey
Geez - I lost my Swiss Army Knife (the teeny one) to TSA at Tucson too. What’s with that place. I’d had it over 30 years since before I got married. It as our 30th anniversary, heading to Hawaii.
I have a new replacement now. Missing all the “character” the other had.

Jeff - KG7HDZ

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 5:08 PM, Wes Stewart <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Mine, a small "Executive" model was a gift from my late wife.  Before she passed we took an Alaskan cruise, round trip out of Seattle.  On the flight from Tucson I put the knife in checked baggage but on the return trip after checking my luggage I remembered it was in my carry-on camera case.  When the bag went through the scanner I could see the guy moving the conveyor belt forward and back and figured my goose was cooked.  So I said something like, "Damn I think I left my pen knife in that bag."  He said, "Okay take it out and show me."  of course, he declared it contraband.  Since we were holding up the line, I was just going to surrender it and move on.  My wife threw a fit and the agent said, "Take it over there."  It turns out they have a counter just for stuff like this.  She took it there and for $8 they put it in an envelope and mailed it to us.
>
> Sadly she is gone, but I still have the knife.
>
> Wes  N7WS
>
>
>> On 12/18/2018 4:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> My Swiss Army Knife was a gift from a ham is Switzerland, and I am not keen to lose or damage it.  It usually stays at my desk.
>> It is different from those common here in the US - it has black sides and not the red sides usually seen.
>> The knife in my pocket is a 3 bladed Case knife.  I guess I like that brand since I went to Case Institute of Technology - but they are good knives that can keep a keen edge for a long time.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
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Re: Swiss Army Knife

bdenley
I got my Swiss Army Knife on board a Swiss Air flight back from Amsterdam.  This was a year before 9/11 however.

Brian

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> On Dec 18, 2018, at 8:17 PM, Thorpe, Jeffrey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Geez - I lost my Swiss Army Knife (the teeny one) to TSA at Tucson too. What’s with that place. I’d had it over 30 years since before I got married. It as our 30th anniversary, heading to Hawaii.
> I have a new replacement now. Missing all the “character” the other had.
>
> Jeff - KG7HDZ
>
>> On Dec 18, 2018, at 5:08 PM, Wes Stewart <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Mine, a small "Executive" model was a gift from my late wife.  Before she passed we took an Alaskan cruise, round trip out of Seattle.  On the flight from Tucson I put the knife in checked baggage but on the return trip after checking my luggage I remembered it was in my carry-on camera case.  When the bag went through the scanner I could see the guy moving the conveyor belt forward and back and figured my goose was cooked.  So I said something like, "Damn I think I left my pen knife in that bag."  He said, "Okay take it out and show me."  of course, he declared it contraband.  Since we were holding up the line, I was just going to surrender it and move on.  My wife threw a fit and the agent said, "Take it over there."  It turns out they have a counter just for stuff like this.  She took it there and for $8 they put it in an envelope and mailed it to us.
>>
>> Sadly she is gone, but I still have the knife.
>>
>> Wes  N7WS
>>
>>
>>> On 12/18/2018 4:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> My Swiss Army Knife was a gift from a ham is Switzerland, and I am not keen to lose or damage it.  It usually stays at my desk.
>>> It is different from those common here in the US - it has black sides and not the red sides usually seen.
>>> The knife in my pocket is a 3 bladed Case knife.  I guess I like that brand since I went to Case Institute of Technology - but they are good knives that can keep a keen edge for a long time.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

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A small box, which consists of a Linux computer with WSJT-X and Bluetooth capable to communicate with smartphone applications, attachable to the left side of KX3 without connection cables would be nice. This helps digi-mode field operation.
I have experienced some frequency drift during FT8 and other JT type digi-mode operation. Weak signal with frequency drift on field operation may be less decidable. I guess some internal design change would reduce the frequency drift.

73 de JH3SIF

Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi
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2018/12/19 3:41、Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> のメッセージ:

> Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult field conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field Day, of course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well beyond this, conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new technology, even recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.
>
> Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading to the present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly compact, multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of the AX1 and its accessories.
>
> No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us about your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best? Where could things have been improved? For example, when you were clinging to a tree limb using an inverted vertical last winter, could you still hear signals above the blizzard? On that ironman run, did you need an antenna that deploys with one hand? Maybe an integrated speech-to-FT8 converter? And when you embellish your tales beside a campfire, should your detachable keyer paddle double as a bottle opener?
>
> A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter. All of them will help inform and inspire the next generation of Elecraft's outdoor product line.
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> Wayne
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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

Gwen Patton
Keith, you should investigate the new DRAWS hat for the Raspberry Pi,
currently on offer from Northwest Digital Radio. Right now it's still in
the early days of release, but it's getting better and better, and they
plan on a complete micro workstation for digital operations. It has lots of
the features you would need.

It's not quite to the point of just plugging it into the left side of a
KX3, but that's probably something some enterprising engineer could cobble
up as an adapter, or a 3d printer project. I've got one of the boards, I've
just been waiting for the developer types to find all the flaws and figure
out all the additional bits necessary to make it truly complete before I
dive into it.

Besides, I'm in the middle of relearning my code, so I can use CW again! I
was a CW operator back in 2000, but I let it slide and haven't used it in a
long time. So I need to relearn it!

Here's the website. There's also a mailing list on groups.io if you need
more information.
http://nwdigitalradio.com/draws/

73,
Gwen NG3P

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 8:54 PM Keith Onishi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> A small box, which consists of a Linux computer with WSJT-X and Bluetooth
> capable to communicate with smartphone applications, attachable to the left
> side of KX3 without connection cables would be nice. This helps digi-mode
> field operation.
> I have experienced some frequency drift during FT8 and other JT type
> digi-mode operation. Weak signal with frequency drift on field operation
> may be less decidable. I guess some internal design change would reduce the
> frequency drift.
>
> 73 de JH3SIF
>
> Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi
> Sent from iPad
>
> 2018/12/19 3:41、Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> のメッセージ:
>
> > Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult
> field conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field
> Day, of course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well beyond
> this, conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new technology,
> even recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.
> >
> > Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable
> transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading to
> the present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly compact,
> multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of the AX1 and
> its accessories.
> >
> > No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us
> about your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best? Where
> could things have been improved? For example, when you were clinging to a
> tree limb using an inverted vertical last winter, could you still hear
> signals above the blizzard? On that ironman run, did you need an antenna
> that deploys with one hand? Maybe an integrated speech-to-FT8 converter?
> And when you embellish your tales beside a campfire, should your detachable
> keyer paddle double as a bottle opener?
> >
> > A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter.
> All of them will help inform and inspire the next generation of Elecraft's
> outdoor product line.
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

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Make sure the on board computer has either nano or vim, gcc, and make. 
That way you can modify the code while you walk.  A CW to editor
function would be helpful.

    73,

        Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 12/18/18 5:53 PM, Keith Onishi wrote:

> A small box, which consists of a Linux computer with WSJT-X and Bluetooth capable to communicate with smartphone applications, attachable to the left side of KX3 without connection cables would be nice. This helps digi-mode field operation.
> I have experienced some frequency drift during FT8 and other JT type digi-mode operation. Weak signal with frequency drift on field operation may be less decidable. I guess some internal design change would reduce the frequency drift.
>
> 73 de JH3SIF
>
> Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi
> Sent from iPad
>
> 2018/12/19 3:41、Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> のメッセージ:
>
>> Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult field conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field Day, of course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well beyond this, conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new technology, even recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.
>>
>> Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading to the present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly compact, multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of the AX1 and its accessories.
>>
>> No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us about your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best? Where could things have been improved? For example, when you were clinging to a tree limb using an inverted vertical last winter, could you still hear signals above the blizzard? On that ironman run, did you need an antenna that deploys with one hand? Maybe an integrated speech-to-FT8 converter? And when you embellish your tales beside a campfire, should your detachable keyer paddle double as a bottle opener?
>>
>> A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter. All of them will help inform and inspire the next generation of Elecraft's outdoor product line.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

Neil Zampella
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It went QRT in April when it returned to Hawaii.      If they send it
out again, it'll probably run 2.0 :)

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 12/18/2018 5:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
> How about KH6JF/MM?
> Is KH6JF/MM running 2.0 or 1.9 ?
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Re: Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

Bob N3MNT
Maybe add WSJT-X capability to PX3



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Andy McMullin
I’d vote for that idea too!

Regards
Andy, G8TQH

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Dave New, N8SBE
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Wayne,

Some means to GPS-lock the frequency, ala the QRPlabs QLG1:

https://www.qrp-labs.com/qlg1.html

This would make running a number of really-low-power long-transmit-time
digital modes like WSPR and QRSS more practical.

Also, built-in Free-DV support would be really nifty, for all the
K-line.  This is starting to show up in certain competitive radios.

Thanks for asking.

73,

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"eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear
From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
Date: Tue, December 18, 2018 1:41 pm
To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>, "[hidden email]"
<[hidden email]>

Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult
field conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field
Day, of course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well
beyond this, conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new
technology, even recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.

Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable
transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading
to the present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly
compact, multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of
the AX1 and its accessories.

No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us
about your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best?
Where could things have been improved? For example, when you were
clinging to a tree limb using an inverted vertical last winter, could
you still hear signals above the blizzard? On that ironman run, did you
need an antenna that deploys with one hand? Maybe an integrated
speech-to-FT8 converter? And when you embellish your tales beside a
campfire, should your detachable keyer paddle double as a bottle opener?

A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter.
All of them will help inform and inspire the next generation of
Elecraft's outdoor product line.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: Swiss Army Knife

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On 12/18/2018 5:41 PM, Brian Denley wrote:

> I got my Swiss Army Knife on board a Swiss Air flight back from
> Amsterdam.  This was a year before 9/11 however.

I don't have a Swiss Army Knife any more (lots of things got lost
between my overseas assignment and divorce 20 years later) but I have
Swiss Army Wristwatch - the brand name is Wenger but it  has the
white-cross-in-red shield on it and the watch back actually says "SWISS
ARMY KNIFE".  Keeps accurate time, too.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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