[P3] New Computer, P3 Utility Doesn't See P3

[Ian Kahn, KM4IK]

Recently I replaced the computer in my shack.  When I did so, I moved the
PCI serial board from the old computer to the new one.  I then plugged my
K-line into the same ports on the computer as I originally had them plugged
into on the old computer (K3 into the integrated port, P3 and KPA500 into
the same ports on the PCI board).  I then downloaded and installed all the
latest utilities.  Each utility found its relevant system except for the P3
utility.  The P3 is plugged into one of two possible ports in the port list
in the P3 utility.  On either port, all the utility does is scan through
the various baud rates looking for the P3.  The baud rate on the P3 is set
to 38400, as are the physical port configurations in Device Manager on the
PC.  I verified the cables are all connected properly.  I verified the
ports work properly.  During this whole endeavor I didn't change anything
in the connections on my K-Line.

If anyone can make any suggestions as to what is causing this issue, I'd
appreciate it.  Thank you all in advance for the assistance.

73,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
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K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team
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[Dick Dievendorff-4]

If you installed your P3 as most of us, you have one RS-232 cable from your
PC to your P3, and from your P3 to your K3.  The same serial port is used
for your K3 as your P3.   If you successfully used your K3 Utility to find
your K3, might it have been connected through your P3?

The Device manager port speed doesn't matter, as the P3 Utility changes the
RS-232 speed itself.

 The P3 Utility will try all the speeds, trying to find one that matches the
P3's RS-232 speed setting.

73 de Dick, K6KR



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 14:50 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] [P3] New Computer, P3 Utility Doesn't See P3

Recently I replaced the computer in my shack.  When I did so, I moved the
PCI serial board from the old computer to the new one.  I then plugged my
K-line into the same ports on the computer as I originally had them plugged
into on the old computer (K3 into the integrated port, P3 and KPA500 into
the same ports on the PCI board).  I then downloaded and installed all the
latest utilities.  Each utility found its relevant system except for the P3
utility.  The P3 is plugged into one of two possible ports in the port list
in the P3 utility.  On either port, all the utility does is scan through the
various baud rates looking for the P3.  The baud rate on the P3 is set to
38400, as are the physical port configurations in Device Manager on the PC.
I verified the cables are all connected properly.  I verified the ports work
properly.  During this whole endeavor I didn't change anything in the
connections on my K-Line.

If anyone can make any suggestions as to what is causing this issue, I'd
appreciate it.  Thank you all in advance for the assistance.

73,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
[hidden email]
K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team
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[Phil Wheeler-2]

Ian,

Have you independently verified that your serial
port is working in the new computer with some
other external device?

73, Phil w7ox

On 3/29/14, 2:50 PM, Ian Kahn wrote:

> Recently I replaced the computer in my shack.  When I did so, I moved the
> PCI serial board from the old computer to the new one.  I then plugged my
> K-line into the same ports on the computer as I originally had them plugged
> into on the old computer (K3 into the integrated port, P3 and KPA500 into
> the same ports on the PCI board).  I then downloaded and installed all the
> latest utilities.  Each utility found its relevant system except for the P3
> utility.  The P3 is plugged into one of two possible ports in the port list
> in the P3 utility.  On either port, all the utility does is scan through
> the various baud rates looking for the P3.  The baud rate on the P3 is set
> to 38400, as are the physical port configurations in Device Manager on the
> PC.  I verified the cables are all connected properly.  I verified the
> ports work properly.  During this whole endeavor I didn't change anything
> in the connections on my K-Line.
>
> If anyone can make any suggestions as to what is causing this issue, I'd
> appreciate it.  Thank you all in advance for the assistance.
>
> 73,
>
> --Ian
> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
> Roswell, GA  EM74ua
> [hidden email]
> K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468
> HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team
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[Cady, Fred]

Seems like the P3 utility would talk to the P3 directly but the usual serial connection is
Computer <===> P3 <===> K3.  The P3 <==> K3 connection is needed so the P3 knows what band the K3 is on.
You then need two other serial port
Computer <==> KAT500
And
Computer <==> KPA500

Cheers and 73,
Fred KE7X




-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ian Kahn
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:50 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] [P3] New Computer, P3 Utility Doesn't See P3

Recently I replaced the computer in my shack.  When I did so, I moved the PCI serial board from the old computer to the new one.  I then plugged my K-line into the same ports on the computer as I originally had them plugged into on the old computer (K3 into the integrated port, P3 and KPA500 into the same ports on the PCI board).  I then downloaded and installed all the latest utilities.  Each utility found its relevant system except for the P3 utility.  The P3 is plugged into one of two possible ports in the port list in the P3 utility.  On either port, all the utility does is scan through the various baud rates looking for the P3.  The baud rate on the P3 is set to 38400, as are the physical port configurations in Device Manager on the PC.  I verified the cables are all connected properly.  I verified the ports work properly.  During this whole endeavor I didn't change anything in the connections on my K-Line.

If anyone can make any suggestions as to what is causing this issue, I'd appreciate it.  Thank you all in advance for the assistance.

73,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
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K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team
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[Ian Kahn, KM4IK]

Fred,

Thanks for the reminder on the communications chain.  We can chalk my
problem up to the ubiquitous ID10T error.  I totally forgot that the K3 and
P3 are daisy-chained together. Once I changed the P3 utility's COM port to
COM1, same as the K3, it connected right away.

Thanks everyone for the comments/suggestions/assistance.

73 de,

-- Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
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K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team

-----Original Message-----
From: Cady, Fred [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:34 PM
To: 'Ian Kahn'; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [P3] New Computer, P3 Utility Doesn't See P3

Seems like the P3 utility would talk to the P3 directly but the usual serial
connection is Computer <===> P3 <===> K3.  The P3 <==> K3 connection is
needed so the P3 knows what band the K3 is on.
You then need two other serial port
Computer <==> KAT500
And
Computer <==> KPA500

Cheers and 73,
Fred KE7X




-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ian Kahn
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:50 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] [P3] New Computer, P3 Utility Doesn't See P3

Recently I replaced the computer in my shack.  When I did so, I moved the
PCI serial board from the old computer to the new one.  I then plugged my
K-line into the same ports on the computer as I originally had them plugged
into on the old computer (K3 into the integrated port, P3 and KPA500 into
the same ports on the PCI board).  I then downloaded and installed all the
latest utilities.  Each utility found its relevant system except for the P3
utility.  The P3 is plugged into one of two possible ports in the port list
in the P3 utility.  On either port, all the utility does is scan through the
various baud rates looking for the P3.  The baud rate on the P3 is set to
38400, as are the physical port configurations in Device Manager on the PC.
I verified the cables are all connected properly.  I verified the ports work
properly.  During this whole endeavor I didn't change anything in the
connections on my K-Line.

If anyone can make any suggestions as to what is causing this issue, I'd
appreciate it.  Thank you all in advance for the assistance.

73,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
[hidden email]
K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team
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