P3 - Waterfall Marker?
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Am I doing something wrong or is this just how it works?
I have the P3's waterfall marker turned on. The "marker" slowly crawls down the screen toward the bottom. Moving the Select knob drags the top of the marker and the rest slowly follows drawing a snake. Cute but...huh? Question: What good is this? The reason I would want the marker is to quickly set it on a signal that has already progressed down the screen. I can't because basically there's no marker. If I just wait for it, desired signal is gone. Why can't the marker in the waterfall just be an extension of the one in the spectrum so you can use it? Is there some technical reason? I'm used to using software for this and none of them work like this. Am I missing a setting somewhere? I've looked hard. Thanks for listening; Steve N4LQ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Steve,
That's how it works. If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom of the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging on to slow the screen updates and provide more history. Kind regards, Paul |
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Paul et al....
"Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help? When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or try calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency other than a rough guess. At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm just looking at a locked up system! The marker needs to be independent of the displayed material....Like a mouse on virtually any other SDR software. Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware configuration? Thanks Steve N4LQ On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Steve, > > That's how it works. If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom > of > the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging > on > to slow the screen updates and provide more history. > > Kind regards, > > Paul > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Waterfall-Marker-tp7609925p7609928.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Try Fixed/Tracking and see if that helps.
73, Steve W4FMD On 11/4/2015 12:32 PM, Steve Ellington wrote: > Paul et al.... > "Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help? > > When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half > way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us > exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or try > calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency > other than a rough guess. > > At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that > using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm > just looking at a locked up system! > > The marker needs to be independent of the displayed material....Like a > mouse on virtually any other SDR software. > Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware > configuration? > > Thanks > Steve N4LQ > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> >> That's how it works. If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom >> of >> the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging >> on >> to slow the screen updates and provide more history. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Waterfall-Marker-tp7609925p7609928.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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All that's needed is a dot, pointer...something to act as a guide so we can
line up the waterfall with the spectrum's marker. It doesn't need to be a translucent line. The dot could be at the bottom of the waterfall since that's where the desired signal is headed anyway. Great minds at Elecraft can do this! Steve N4LQ On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Paul Saffren <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Steve, > > It's pretty hard to do what you want with the P3 hardware. The P3's > hardware is nowhere close to what you can get with a standalone PC, but it > does alright for a standalone panadapter and offers some features not found > on traditional SDR systems. There's really no way to draw a translucent > line down the waterfall display and still have the P3 run at a reasonable > speed. > > Kind regards, > > paul > > Paul Saffren - N6HZ > Project Manager > Elecraft Inc. 831-763-4211 x122www.elecraft.com > > On 11/4/2015 9:32 AM, Steve Ellington wrote: > > Paul et al.... > "Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help? > > When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half > way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us > exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or try > calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency > other than a rough guess. > > At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that > using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm > just looking at a locked up system! > > The marker needs to be independent of the displayed material....Like a > mouse on virtually any other SDR software. > Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware > configuration? > > Thanks > Steve N4LQ > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> >> That's how it works. If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom >> of >> the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging >> on >> to slow the screen updates and provide more history. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Waterfall-Marker-tp7609925p7609928.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: P3 - Waterfall Marker?
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Hi Steve,
I agree that a dot or small vertical line at the bottom of the screen would work great for this purpose. The bottom white 'frame' already has small vertical 'tic' marks on it. I think adding a small tic or dot just beneath that bottom frame would do the trick. That way, the active part of the screen isn't being painted. 73, Dale WA8SRA > All that's needed is a dot, pointer...something to act as a guide so we > can > line up the waterfall with the spectrum's marker. It doesn't need to be a > translucent line. > The dot could be at the bottom of the waterfall since that's where the > desired signal is headed anyway. > Great minds at Elecraft can do this! > Steve N4LQ > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Paul Saffren <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> >> It's pretty hard to do what you want with the P3 hardware. The P3's >> hardware is nowhere close to what you can get with a standalone PC, but >> it >> does alright for a standalone panadapter and offers some features not >> found >> on traditional SDR systems. There's really no way to draw a >> translucent >> line down the waterfall display and still have the P3 run at a >> reasonable >> speed. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> paul >> >> Paul Saffren - N6HZ >> Project Manager >> Elecraft Inc. 831-763-4211 x122www.elecraft.com >> >> On 11/4/2015 9:32 AM, Steve Ellington wrote: >> >> Paul et al.... >> "Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help? >> >> When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is >> half >> way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us >> exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or >> try >> calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency >> other than a rough guess. >> >> At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that >> using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm >> just looking at a locked up system! >> >> The marker needs to be independent of the displayed material....Like a >> mouse on virtually any other SDR software. >> Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware >> configuration? >> >> Thanks >> Steve N4LQ >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> That's how it works. If you don't want the signal to roll off the >>> bottom >>> of >>> the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn >>> averaging >>> on >>> to slow the screen updates and provide more history. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Waterfall-Marker-tp7609925p7609928.html >>> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >>> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >>> >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I always used fixed mode. Nope doesn't help.
There needs to be a marker at least at the bottom of the waterfall so you can mark the signal before it disappears and shift frequency to it. On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Steve Glickstein <[hidden email]> wrote: > Try Fixed/Tracking and see if that helps. > > 73, Steve W4FMD > > > On 11/4/2015 12:32 PM, Steve Ellington wrote: > >> Paul et al.... >> "Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help? >> >> When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half >> way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us >> exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or try >> calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency >> other than a rough guess. >> >> At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that >> using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm >> just looking at a locked up system! >> >> The marker needs to be independent of the displayed material....Like a >> mouse on virtually any other SDR software. >> Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware >> configuration? >> >> Thanks >> Steve N4LQ >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Steve, >>> >>> That's how it works. If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom >>> of >>> the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging >>> on >>> to slow the screen updates and provide more history. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> >>> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Waterfall-Marker-tp7609925p7609928.html >>> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I think what Steve is asking for is a dot (non-line) marker at the *bottom* of the waterfall and that doesn't have persistence (doesn't "leave a trail"), so that he can line it up with a scrolling signal and then QSY to it before it disappears off the bottom of the screen. It's actually not too bad an idea, considering that signals are always heading to the bottom of the waterfall, but currently the marker's latest position is at the top of the waterfall.
Al W6LX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I can usually get close enough to hear the station by eye without a
marker, either on the P3 or on a 24" VGA. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 4 Nov 2015 20:14, Steve Ellington wrote: > All that's needed is a dot, pointer...something to act as a guide so we can > line up the waterfall with the spectrum's marker. It doesn't need to be a > translucent line. > The dot could be at the bottom of the waterfall since that's where the > desired signal is headed anyway. > Great minds at Elecraft can do this! > Steve N4LQ > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Paul Saffren <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> >> It's pretty hard to do what you want with the P3 hardware. The P3's >> hardware is nowhere close to what you can get with a standalone PC, but it >> does alright for a standalone panadapter and offers some features not found >> on traditional SDR systems. There's really no way to draw a translucent >> line down the waterfall display and still have the P3 run at a reasonable >> speed. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> paul >> >> Paul Saffren - N6HZ >> Project Manager >> Elecraft Inc. 831-763-4211 x122www.elecraft.com >> >> On 11/4/2015 9:32 AM, Steve Ellington wrote: >> >> Paul et al.... >> "Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help? >> >> When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half >> way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us >> exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or try >> calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency >> other than a rough guess. >> >> At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that >> using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm >> just looking at a locked up system! >> >> The marker needs to be independent of the displayed material....Like a >> mouse on virtually any other SDR software. >> Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware >> configuration? >> >> Thanks >> Steve N4LQ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi,
I use 50 Khz or more span only to get an overview. Normally i only use 10 khz and never had problems turning the marker to the waterfall trace, so that I could catch the station next time it came up. 73 de Hajo --- Cela est bien dit, mais il faut cultiver notre jardin. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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