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Larry - K2GN

P3: a modest proposal for QSY

I found out I had the same problem here, compounded by bad ears.
Solution: Use the MKR A to get to the high side of the freq,
Then on the K3 - hit the Spot function. Of course the K3 must be set up for
Auto Spot.
Works like a charm.
de K2GN - Larry - http://k2gn.com
K3 S/N - 3278 P3 S/N - 51
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3: a modest proposal for QSY
Yes, Ref Cal has been performed on both K3 and P3. The issue is ergonomic.
It's a matter of how accurately I can place the marker in the wider
spans, especially when I need to move quickly.
elease Date: 08/11/10 02:34:00

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Bill W4ZV

Re: P3: a modest proposal for QSY

Larry - K2GN wrote

Solution: Use the MKR A to get to the high side of the freq,

This is key and I had forgotten because it had become second nature. Since the MKR trace is 2 pixels wide, it cannot be placed exactly on a 1 pixel wide signal. Apparently Alan chose to set it this way which is why I want him to go to 1 pixel width (like the white Spectrum Center Line). Meanwhile what Larry says is true...at least for UCW which is what I use.

Graphically, it should look like this:

MM
S

Not this:

MM
S

What I want is this:

M (i.e. 1 pixel)
S

73, Bill

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: P3: a modest proposal for QSY

> Larry - K2GN wrote:
>>
>> Solution: Use the MKR A to get to the high side of the freq,

And if you want to completely automate it from the P3, write
a macro that turns on the K3 auto tune (tap CWT) then taps Spot
and turns off auto tune (tap CWT). Store that to one of the
P3 Function buttons ....

If the P3 Programmers Guide were available, the macro could be
extended to include the P3 "tap" function and turning off the
marker when finished.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 8/11/2010 2:15 PM, Bill W4ZV wrote:

>
>
> Larry - K2GN wrote:
>>
>> Solution: Use the MKR A to get to the high side of the freq,
>>
>
> This is key and I had forgotten because it had become second nature. Since
> the MKR trace is 2 pixels wide, it cannot be placed exactly on a 1 pixel
> wide signal. Apparently Alan chose to set it this way which is why I want
> him to go to 1 pixel width (like the white Spectrum Center Line). Meanwhile
> what Larry says is true...at least for UCW which is what I use.
>
> Graphically, it should look like this:
>
> MM
> S
>
> Not this:
>
> MM
> S
>
> What I want is this:
>
> M (i.e. 1 pixel)
> S
>
> 73, Bill
>

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M0XDF

Re: P3: a modest proposal for QSY

So it is possible to put K3 macros on the P3 function keys?
I did ask about that here, but no reply. Where in the manual does it explain about that please?
PS - My P3 should arrive tomorrow, details when I get them.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 11 Aug 2010, at 19:34, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
>> Larry - K2GN wrote:
>>>
>>> Solution: Use the MKR A to get to the high side of the freq,
>
> And if you want to completely automate it from the P3, write
> a macro that turns on the K3 auto tune (tap CWT) then taps Spot
> and turns off auto tune (tap CWT). Store that to one of the
> P3 Function buttons ....
>
> If the P3 Programmers Guide were available, the macro could be
> extended to include the P3 "tap" function and turning off the
> marker when finished.

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: P3: a modest proposal for QSY

> So it is possible to put K3 macros on the P3 function keys?

Yes, that was straight from Eric on this list some months ago
when discussing the P3 after it was shown - in Orlando I think.

Unfortunately the P3 manual does not provide any information
on storing macros and the "P3 Programmers Manual" has not been
released so we can't do any macro programming of the P3.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 8/11/2010 7:16 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
> So it is possible to put K3 macros on the P3 function keys? I did ask
> about that here, but no reply. Where in the manual does it explain
> about that please? PS - My P3 should arrive tomorrow, details when I
> get them. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Re: P3: Macro Keys

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This is an upcoming P3 feature that will show up in a future f/w release.

73, Eric

On 8/11/2010 5:27 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

> > So it is possible to put K3 macros on the P3 function keys?
>
> Yes, that was straight from Eric on this list some months ago
> when discussing the P3 after it was shown - in Orlando I think.
>
> Unfortunately the P3 manual does not provide any information
> on storing macros and the "P3 Programmers Manual" has not been
> released so we can't do any macro programming of the P3.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
> On 8/11/2010 7:16 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>
>> So it is possible to put K3 macros on the P3 function keys? I did ask
>> about that here, but no reply. Where in the manual does it explain
>> about that please? PS - My P3 should arrive tomorrow, details when I
>> get them. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
>>

Alan Bloom

Re: P3: a modest proposal for QSY

In reply to this post by M0XDF

Currently, only P3 menu functions can be assigned to the function keys,
however including K3 macros is an obvious enhancement. The main issue
is the user interface - what should be the key press sequence to tell
the P3 which K3 key you want to assign? This could be done by adding
the feature to P3 Utility, but I'd like to figure out a way to do it
without a computer connected.

Alan

On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 00:16 +0100, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
> So it is possible to put K3 macros on the P3 function keys?
> I did ask about that here, but no reply. Where in the manual does it explain about that please?
> PS - My P3 should arrive tomorrow, details when I get them.
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174

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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: P3: a modest proposal for QSY

> The main issue is the user interface - what should be the key press
> sequence to tell the P3 which K3 key you want to assign? This could
> be done by adding the feature to P3 Utility, but I'd like to figure
> out a way to do it without a computer connected.

Other than a limited number of pre-defined functions (e.g., toggle
SPKR+PH or B->A) assigning functions to the K3 programmable keys
PF1, PF2, M1T - M4T, M1H - M4H) requires that they be uploaded from
K3 Utility and then assigned with the K3 menu. I don't see that
assigning functions not already built into the P3 (particularly multi-
step and/or mixed K3/P3 functions) needs to be any different.

It would certainly be possible to build a complete on screen, menu
driven function editor that displayed a list of all K3/P3 commands,
let the user scroll through them with "select," choose them with
"tap" and save the entire macro with "hold." It could even be "smart"
and prompt for parameters (e.g., value, index, text, etc.) where
appropriate (e.g. FW; or IS;) but it's probably easier for the user
to edit/test macros from the P3 Utility "Command Tester" and upload
the final result instead of trying to do on-screen compose with the
select/tap/hold dance.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 8/11/2010 8:46 PM, Alan Bloom wrote:

Brett Howard

Re: P3: a modest proposal for QSY

In reply to this post by Alan Bloom

I'd recommend if you want to add a K3 menu item that you'd enter the
menu and then press the P3 button that you want to assign. Just like
you'd press M1-M4 or PF1/PF2. I think the P3 should feel like its got
no disconnection between it and the K3. It should feel as if it would
be 100% natural if the P3 was simply a screen inside the K3. Not to
mention that when the K3 menu is entered the menu should be displayed
on the P3. Thus it becomes even clearer that you can assign menu
functions to the K3.

One other point of note is that when a P3 menu item that only has two
states is assigned to a PFx button pressing that button should toggle
that setting like the K3 does rather than only pulling up the item.

~Brett (N7MG)

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Alan Bloom <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Currently, only P3 menu functions can be assigned to the function keys,
> however including K3 macros is an obvious enhancement. The main issue
> is the user interface - what should be the key press sequence to tell
> the P3 which K3 key you want to assign? This could be done by adding
> the feature to P3 Utility, but I'd like to figure out a way to do it
> without a computer connected.
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 00:16 +0100, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>> So it is possible to put K3 macros on the P3 function keys?
>> I did ask about that here, but no reply. Where in the manual does it explain about that please?
>> PS - My P3 should arrive tomorrow, details when I get them.
>> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
>
>
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