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P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

wayne burdick
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The P3 is connected to the K3 at a point ahead of the crystal filters,  
so when you change crystal filters on the K3, it won't change the P3's  
displayed waveform.

However, the P3 will be aware of the K3's filter bandwidth and offset,  
so we can show a bracketed or otherwise highlighted area on the P3  
display that reflects the filter settings. We could show both the DSP  
and crystal bandwidth using different colors.

Going farther out on a limb: The P3 could highlight ham-band edges and  
band segments, even by license class, programmable by country. It  
could mix spectral and waterfall displays with decoded text. You could  
assign a function switch as an auto-tune switch for PSK31 -- etc.,  
etc. (Somebody stop me!)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

Matt Zilmer
I like the limb you're out on.

Will there be a cursor function, similar to a spectrum analyzer - or
does the P3 auto-center frequency in the IF center?  If the answer is
yes, text display of peak/average dB of a selected signal could be
done.

Maybe the cursor already exists and I just didn't see it on the face
of the engineering unit at SB.

73,
matt

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:58:05 -0700, you wrote:

>The P3 is connected to the K3 at a point ahead of the crystal filters,  
>so when you change crystal filters on the K3, it won't change the P3's  
>displayed waveform.
>
>However, the P3 will be aware of the K3's filter bandwidth and offset,  
>so we can show a bracketed or otherwise highlighted area on the P3  
>display that reflects the filter settings. We could show both the DSP  
>and crystal bandwidth using different colors.
>
>Going farther out on a limb: The P3 could highlight ham-band edges and  
>band segments, even by license class, programmable by country. It  
>could mix spectral and waterfall displays with decoded text. You could  
>assign a function switch as an auto-tune switch for PSK31 -- etc.,  
>etc. (Somebody stop me!)
>
>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR
>
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Re: P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

wayne burdick
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On Aug 17, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote:

> I like the limb you're out on.
>
> Will there be a cursor function, similar to a spectrum analyzer - or
> does the P3 auto-center frequency in the IF center?

Both.

> If the answer is yes, text display of peak/average dB of a selected  
> signal could be
> done.

Yes.

>
> Maybe the cursor already exists and I just didn't see it on the face
> of the engineering unit at SB.

It wasn't turned on. Actually there are two cursors, one for the main  
RX and one for sub.

We'll have a lot more to say about P3 operation in coming weeks. We  
have "a bit" of work to do....

73,
Wayne
N6RK


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Re: P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

Brett Howard
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Or perhaps a small area on the screen that provides the information that is
fleeting on the VFO B area.  Such as power out, bandwidth, CW speed.  Maybe
a small dashboard where users can define what values they'd like displayed
much like some of the older Garmin GPS's used to work.  

This is where the term shoot the engineer came from..

~Brett (KC7OTG)

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Subject: [Elecraft] P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

The P3 is connected to the K3 at a point ahead of the crystal filters,  
so when you change crystal filters on the K3, it won't change the P3's  
displayed waveform.

However, the P3 will be aware of the K3's filter bandwidth and offset,  
so we can show a bracketed or otherwise highlighted area on the P3  
display that reflects the filter settings. We could show both the DSP  
and crystal bandwidth using different colors.

Going farther out on a limb: The P3 could highlight ham-band edges and  
band segments, even by license class, programmable by country. It  
could mix spectral and waterfall displays with decoded text. You could  
assign a function switch as an auto-tune switch for PSK31 -- etc.,  
etc. (Somebody stop me!)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

Brett Howard
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Wonder if the graphics library (if you're using one) supports
transparencies.  That could lead to some really cool filter BW displays.
Especially for the DUAL PB setups.

~Brett (KC7OTG)

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Subject: [Elecraft] P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

The P3 is connected to the K3 at a point ahead of the crystal filters,  
so when you change crystal filters on the K3, it won't change the P3's  
displayed waveform.

However, the P3 will be aware of the K3's filter bandwidth and offset,  
so we can show a bracketed or otherwise highlighted area on the P3  
display that reflects the filter settings. We could show both the DSP  
and crystal bandwidth using different colors.

Going farther out on a limb: The P3 could highlight ham-band edges and  
band segments, even by license class, programmable by country. It  
could mix spectral and waterfall displays with decoded text. You could  
assign a function switch as an auto-tune switch for PSK31 -- etc.,  
etc. (Somebody stop me!)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

dave.wilburn
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Don't stop, I'm getting all tingly.

David Wilburn
NM4M
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The P3 is connected to the K3 at a point ahead of the crystal filters,  
so when you change crystal filters on the K3, it won't change the P3's  
displayed waveform.

However, the P3 will be aware of the K3's filter bandwidth and offset,  
so we can show a bracketed or otherwise highlighted area on the P3  
display that reflects the filter settings. We could show both the DSP  
and crystal bandwidth using different colors.

Going farther out on a limb: The P3 could highlight ham-band edges and  
band segments, even by license class, programmable by country. It  
could mix spectral and waterfall displays with decoded text. You could  
assign a function switch as an auto-tune switch for PSK31 -- etc.,  
etc. (Somebody stop me!)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

Matt Zilmer
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:12:25 -0700, you wrote:
>
>We'll have a lot more to say about P3 operation in coming weeks. We  
>have "a bit" of work to do....
>
It's a good thing that you have Al involved on this.  You are already
busy as can be.

Be sure to let me know if you can think of any way to use CW regr
extended or another program for testing.  I'll try my imagination on
this, but it would seem to require a sig gen and some way of dumping
the display memory...  Er, maybe it's simpler than that.  Like
eyeballing it.

matt
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Re: P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2
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- Mouse connection to the P3 to point in the P3-display and shoot, My
number one!

- Keyboard connection to P3 to type something --> K3 will send CW,
PSK31, RTTY, or what say you.
- Take out the computer: config the K3 through the P3 if mouse and
keyboard are connected.
- freq-entering via keyboard



Arie PA3A

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

(Somebody stop me!)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information

P.B. Christensen
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> The P3 is connected to the K3 at a point ahead of the crystal filters,
> so when you change crystal filters on the K3, it won't change the P3's
> displayed waveform.

Wayne:

Will the P3 use an 8 MHz BPF and buffer amp, followed by a quadrature mixer?
Tnx!

Paul, W9AC

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