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P3 lost receive signal on monitor from K3s

Bill K9YEQ
I looked in archives but found nothing.  I can find low level noise but nothing coming from K3s. I have checked all cables and all is working fine.  
Suggestions from anyone who has had the experience and fixed it.  


73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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Re: P3 lost receive signal on monitor from K3s

Don Wilhelm
Bill,

Try a different BNC to BNC jumper between the K3 IF out and the P3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/5/2017 4:59 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> I looked in archives but found nothing.  I can find low level noise but nothing coming from K3s. I have checked all cables and all is working fine.
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Re: P3 lost receive signal on monitor from K3s

k6dgw
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Had this problem originally with my P3. Things to look at:

All BNC connectors are not created equal.  This is especially true if
they were born in "you know where."  Center pins aren't always the
correct size or length.  It is very hard to verify they're good.  Try a
different cable.  Several years ago when the P3 was fairly new, Elecraft
got a batch of cables from a vendor that were basically all bad.  They
replaced mine on the condition that I cut the bad one into little pieces
so it didn't end up on some hamswap table. [:-)  I'm sure they're all
gone now, but try a different cable.

The P3 is basically a receiver.  Normally for a K3/K3S, it will be tuned
to the K3 1st IF at 8.1xxx MHz, however it can be tuned to a wide range
of frequencies to accommodate other transceivers.  Put a piece of hookup
wire into the center pin of the P3 BNC socket. You should be able to see
noise and it should just about go away when you remove the wire.  If
this is true, your P3 is probably OK.

Is your P3 tuned to the K3S's 1st IF?  It's part of the set-up in the
manual.

Make sure the male BNC connectors are not oxidized.  P3 seems to be
fairly sensitive to problems in that connection.

I have an early K3 and needed to order the one-resistor mod to boost the
IF level.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County


On 3/5/2017 1:59 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> I looked in archives but found nothing.  I can find low level noise but nothing coming from K3s. I have checked all cables and all is working fine.
> Suggestions from anyone who has had the experience and fixed it.
>
>
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
>

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Re: P3 lost receive signal on monitor from K3s

Bill K9YEQ
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Don, thanks. The cable fell off when changing some other cables.  Feeling stupid.  
72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ, FT'er for K2 and all add-ons, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
Bill,
Try a different BNC to BNC jumper between the K3 IF out and the P3.
73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/5/2017 4:59 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> I looked in archives but found nothing.  I can find low level noise but nothing coming from K3s. I have checked all cables and all is working fine.
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Re: P3 lost receive signal on monitor from K3s

Don Wilhelm
Bill,

No need to "feel stupid".
Things like that happen all the time.
In all cases of failure, check the connecting cables first.  They are
the most likely suspect although the first impression is to suspect a
failure of the equipment.  Believe me, you are not the first, and likely
will not be the last (unless everyone remembers this information - not
likely).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/5/2017 7:04 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Don, thanks. The cable fell off when changing some other cables.  Feeling stupid.
>

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Re: P3 lost receive signal on monitor from K3s

Don Wilhelm
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Ron,

That is only true with old BNC connectors (like ancient ones picked up
at hamfests).  Current pins on 75 ohm and 50 ohm BNC connectors are the
same size.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/5/2017 6:59 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> I understand that the center pins on 75-ohm BNCs are a different size from
> the 50 Ohm version. Mixing them up can damage the female connectors and
> cause intermittents.
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k6mkf
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No need at all.  

I've been there many times before, and it's just a matter of time before I
go there again.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, IDXC 2017 Committee

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> Wilhelm
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 4:22 PM
> To: Bill Johnson <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
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>
> Bill,
>
> No need to "feel stupid".
> Things like that happen all the time.
> In all cases of failure, check the connecting cables first.  They are the
most likely
> suspect although the first impression is to suspect a failure of the
equipment.
> Believe me, you are not the first, and likely will not be the last (unless
everyone
> remembers this information - not likely).
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 3/5/2017 7:04 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> > Don, thanks. The cable fell off when changing some other cables.
Feeling

> stupid.
> >
>
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