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P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3

Is a P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3 a fair comparison? Am I trying to compare apples
to oranges?

Bill - W3PNM
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k6dgw

Re: P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3

I tried LP-Pan and NaP3 before buying my P3. Panadapter displays are
sort of like the urban legend that all snowflakes are different ...
after a year in the northern interior of AK, I can assure you ... "seen
one, you've seen 'em all." However, like all Elecraft gear, the
integration between the P3 and K3 is very tight, and coupled with the
macro and software control capabilities makes the P3 far superior.

I bought mine more or less as a toy to replace the external HW, cables,
and additional SW on the PC. I find now that it is what I look at while
operating. I occasionally operate W7RN remotely, and alas -- no P3.
Been contemplating ways to get the 8 MHz first IF and control down from
the station. [Wayne: Hint for a new product?]

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 3/23/2018 11:55 AM, Bill DeVore wrote:
> Is a P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3 a fair comparison? Am I trying to compare apples
> to oranges?
>
> Bill - W3PNM
>

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George Thornton

Re: P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3

I too had the LP-Pan before the K3.

Computers can be finicky and I found using the LP-Pan to be at times difficult to keep running. I also did not find it easy to adjust the scale ranges to make the graphics displays optimized for what I wanted to do.

By contrast, the P3 was easy to set up and get running. The controls used for ranging the display were knobs with labels and were easy to adjust on the fly. The integration with the K3 was a further plus.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 12:40 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3

I tried LP-Pan and NaP3 before buying my P3. Panadapter displays are sort of like the urban legend that all snowflakes are different ...
after a year in the northern interior of AK, I can assure you ... "seen one, you've seen 'em all." However, like all Elecraft gear, the integration between the P3 and K3 is very tight, and coupled with the macro and software control capabilities makes the P3 far superior.

I bought mine more or less as a toy to replace the external HW, cables, and additional SW on the PC. I find now that it is what I look at while operating. I occasionally operate W7RN remotely, and alas -- no P3. Been contemplating ways to get the 8 MHz first IF and control down from the station. [Wayne: Hint for a new product?]

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 3/23/2018 11:55 AM, Bill DeVore wrote:
> Is a P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3 a fair comparison? Am I trying to compare
> apples to oranges?
>
> Bill - W3PNM
>

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Jim Rhodes-2

Re: P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3

P3, as far as I know, does not let you open a receiver at anyplace in the
bandpass. Actually 2, so with internal receivers and 2 software I can
monitor 4 freq if I want using LP. Then there is the display issue. If you
want bigger display on P3 you have to dedicate a monitor to it alone. With
LP I just open a window on my 40" 4K monitor without adding a whole new
display.

Jim Rhodes
K0XU

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 15:00 George Thornton <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> I too had the LP-Pan before the K3.
>
> Computers can be finicky and I found using the LP-Pan to be at times
> difficult to keep running. I also did not find it easy to adjust the scale
> ranges to make the graphics displays optimized for what I wanted to do.
>
> By contrast, the P3 was easy to set up and get running. The controls used
> for ranging the display were knobs with labels and were easy to adjust on
> the fly. The integration with the K3 was a further plus.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 12:40 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3
>
> I tried LP-Pan and NaP3 before buying my P3. Panadapter displays are sort
> of like the urban legend that all snowflakes are different ...
> after a year in the northern interior of AK, I can assure you ... "seen
> one, you've seen 'em all." However, like all Elecraft gear, the integration
> between the P3 and K3 is very tight, and coupled with the macro and
> software control capabilities makes the P3 far superior.
>
> I bought mine more or less as a toy to replace the external HW, cables,
> and additional SW on the PC. I find now that it is what I look at while
> operating. I occasionally operate W7RN remotely, and alas -- no P3. Been
> contemplating ways to get the 8 MHz first IF and control down from the
> station. [Wayne: Hint for a new product?]
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 3/23/2018 11:55 AM, Bill DeVore wrote:
> > Is a P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3 a fair comparison? Am I trying to compare
> > apples to oranges?
> >
> > Bill - W3PNM
> >
>
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Wes Stewart-2

Re: P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3

In reply to this post by k6dgw

I've never used a P3, other than seeing a demo of a prototype unit. I once used
an LP-Pan, but no longer have one. It was a bit too much stuff for me.

I expect that the owners of P3s will tell you there is no comparison because the
P3 stands alone without a computer. That is true. But who doesn't use a shack
computer these days?

Now I use an SDR-IQ with SpectraVue software and find it outstanding. Being
able to see the band has become almost a necessity for me; I'm pretty much lost
without it. It fully tracks the K3, offers point-n-click or mouse wheel QSY,
and does have demodulation so it can be a second RX of sorts although I don't
use it as such and latency can be a little offputting. The SDR-IQ has been
superseded but they still pop up on the used market. As a standalone RX they're
not too bad either.

Wes N7WS

On 3/23/2018 12:40 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

> I tried LP-Pan and NaP3 before buying my P3. Panadapter displays are sort of
> like the urban legend that all snowflakes are different ... after a year in
> the northern interior of AK, I can assure you ... "seen one, you've seen 'em
> all." However, like all Elecraft gear, the integration between the P3 and K3
> is very tight, and coupled with the macro and software control capabilities
> makes the P3 far superior.
>
> I bought mine more or less as a toy to replace the external HW, cables, and
> additional SW on the PC. I find now that it is what I look at while
> operating. I occasionally operate W7RN remotely, and alas -- no P3. Been
> contemplating ways to get the 8 MHz first IF and control down from the
> station. [Wayne: Hint for a new product?]
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 3/23/2018 11:55 AM, Bill DeVore wrote:
>> Is a P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3 a fair comparison? Am I trying to compare apples
>> to oranges?
>>
>> Bill - W3PNM
>>
>
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alorona

Re: P3 vs LP-Pan / NaP3

>>> But who doesn't use a shack

>>> computer these days?

Me.

Al W6LX
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