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PIN for K3??

Scott Dunlavey
has the possibility of "locking" the K3 so it can not transmit, or
perform any of it's functions without entering a PIN been considered...
I know that locking the VFO's is possible by simply pushing the LOCK
key, I am suggesting disabling the radio and enabling it with a
PIN....like a cell phone... I think this would be a good thing to
have... Just my 2 cents

scott
w2ntv
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Re: PIN for K3??

Nr4c
I sure hope not.  If your worried about someone accessing you radio, put a
lock on the door.  All we need is to have to 'unlock' the @#$% radio every
time we want to speak.  

...bill nr4c

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Dunlavey [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:26 PM
To: elecraftyahoo; elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] PIN for K3??

has the possibility of "locking" the K3 so it can not transmit, or
perform any of it's functions without entering a PIN been considered...
I know that locking the VFO's is possible by simply pushing the LOCK
key, I am suggesting disabling the radio and enabling it with a
PIN....like a cell phone... I think this would be a good thing to
have... Just my 2 cents

scott
w2ntv
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Re: PIN for K3??

Scott Dunlavey
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Bill, I am not suggesting you need to &^%* unlock the *&^&$# radio every
*&^%$ time you want to %$#* play radio... I am suggesting a way to make
it so LIDS at club meetings or *&^% ham operators at Field Day don't do
something they should not do... agn, just like a cell or smart phone...
that's all... Matt, I will look into the other settings, I was not aware
of that... TU
w2ntv

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Bill Conkling wrote:

> I sure hope not.  If your worried about someone accessing you radio,
> put a
> lock on the door.  All we need is to have to 'unlock' the @#$% radio
> every
> time we want to speak.
> ...bill nr4c
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Dunlavey [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Wednesday,
> January 30, 2013 12:26 PM
> To: elecraftyahoo; elecraft
> Subject: [Elecraft] PIN for K3??
>
> has the possibility of "locking" the K3 so it can not transmit, or
> perform any of it's functions without entering a PIN been
> considered... I know that locking the VFO's is possible by simply
> pushing the LOCK key, I am suggesting disabling the radio and enabling
> it with a PIN....like a cell phone... I think this would be a good
> thing to have... Just my 2 cents
>
> scott
> w2ntv
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Re: PIN for K3??

Nr4c
Scott,

Which is it?  I've read your post on at least two different lists.....

Do you want to prevent a thief from using your radio?  Prevent him from
stealing it, lock the door.

Do you want to keep your kids (and their friends) from messing with it?
Your own kids should know better and also, lock the door.

Or you want to keep your irresponsible club members (lids) from messing with
the settings?  As has been pointed out, Elecraft has provided a means of
'locking' the CMP, MIC GAIN, and POWER settings, and it works very well.
Use it, and a little training would go a long way to acquaint your friends
on the basics of how the radio works, and what the controls do, such as
filters, and band width.  A few experiments with the NB and NR and the NOTCH
are also well advised.  Also, a quick SAVE settings with the K3 Utility will
help if things get too far out of hand. (I loaned my K3 to a good friend a
while back, and when I got it back a couple of weeks later, he'd
re-configured it to work very muck like his OMNI VI!  I re-loaded my config
file, and was back to normal, he bought a K3.)

My K3 has been to many field day and special events and racked up thousands
of contacts with no ill affects, and the membership has become very
confident with it.  I feel certain that this has been partially responsible
for several members buying K3s and other Elecraft equipment.

But, please, "we don't need no stinkin' PINS!"

BTW: For what it's worth, my Smart phone, doesn't actually have a PIN, I
just swipe an icon across the screen, just about anyone with a half a brain
can make it work.  It' more of a nuisance than any protection.

...bill nr4c


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Dunlavey [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:13 PM
To: [hidden email]
Cc: elecraftyahoo; elecraft
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] PIN for K3??

Bill, I am not suggesting you need to &^%* unlock the *&^&$# radio every
*&^%$ time you want to %$#* play radio... I am suggesting a way to make
it so LIDS at club meetings or *&^% ham operators at Field Day don't do
something they should not do... agn, just like a cell or smart phone...
that's all... Matt, I will look into the other settings, I was not aware
of that... TU
w2ntv


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Re: PIN for K3??

Scott Dunlavey
On 1/30/2013 7:09 PM, Bill Conkling wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Which is it?  I've read your post on at least two different lists.....
>
> Do you want to prevent a thief from using your radio?  Prevent him from
> stealing it, lock the door.
>
> Do you want to keep your kids (and their friends) from messing with it?
> Your own kids should know better and also, lock the door.
>
> Or you want to keep your irresponsible club members (lids) from messing with
> the settings?  As has been pointed out, Elecraft has provided a means of
> 'locking' the CMP, MIC GAIN, and POWER settings, and it works very well.
> Use it, and a little training would go a long way to acquaint your friends
> on the basics of how the radio works, and what the controls do, such as
> filters, and band width.  A few experiments with the NB and NR and the NOTCH
> are also well advised.  Also, a quick SAVE settings with the K3 Utility will
> help if things get too far out of hand. (I loaned my K3 to a good friend a
> while back, and when I got it back a couple of weeks later, he'd
> re-configured it to work very muck like his OMNI VI!  I re-loaded my config
> file, and was back to normal, he bought a K3.)
>
> My K3 has been to many field day and special events and racked up thousands
> of contacts with no ill affects, and the membership has become very
> confident with it.  I feel certain that this has been partially responsible
> for several members buying K3s and other Elecraft equipment.
>
> But, please, "we don't need no stinkin' PINS!"
>
> BTW: For what it's worth, my Smart phone, doesn't actually have a PIN, I
> just swipe an icon across the screen, just about anyone with a half a brain
> can make it work.  It' more of a nuisance than any protection.
>
> ...bill nr4c
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Dunlavey [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:13 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: elecraftyahoo; elecraft
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] PIN for K3??
>
> Bill, I am not suggesting you need to &^%* unlock the *&^&$# radio every
> *&^%$ time you want to %$#* play radio... I am suggesting a way to make
> it so LIDS at club meetings or *&^% ham operators at Field Day don't do
> something they should not do... agn, just like a cell or smart phone...
> that's all... Matt, I will look into the other settings, I was not aware
> of that... TU
> w2ntv
>
>
>
Bill... I was asked WHY?... I then gave some reasons why it would be
helpful or useful to have a lock or PIN... I also said, it may not be
for everyone and an op out or turn on/off for those people who didn't
want it should be available
We have passwords on our computers and email accounts, do you lock up
your computer or do you leave your internet on for hackers to get in and
cause problems???
I just gave a suggestion on something I THINK would be of use to me... I
don't think it is constructive treating me like a pinata just because
you have no use for a PIN...

enjoy ham radio... I do

Scott
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Re: PIN for K3??

Gary Gregory-2
Scott,

Personally?...I tend to agree with you. In my situation, I set up portable
under my Motorhome awning and I could use a 'Lockout' feature daily. I do
realize this is not for the shall we say majority, however I felt your
question was a valid one.

I use the current K3 partial lockout feature and if FW was available to
allow as you suggest a 'Pin' type lockout of the full K-Line then I would
use that feature.

Again I understand that this would not be for everyone, but I see a use for
the feature which of course should be 'optional'.

I will not validate the other comments I have read by commenting further.

Good question, I hope Elecraft at least give your question serious
consideration.

regards,
Gary

On 1 February 2013 10:29, Scott W2NTV <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 1/30/2013 7:09 PM, Bill Conkling wrote:
>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Which is it?  I've read your post on at least two different lists.....
>>
>> Do you want to prevent a thief from using your radio?  Prevent him from
>> stealing it, lock the door.
>>
>> Do you want to keep your kids (and their friends) from messing with it?
>> Your own kids should know better and also, lock the door.
>>
>> Or you want to keep your irresponsible club members (lids) from messing
>> with
>> the settings?  As has been pointed out, Elecraft has provided a means of
>> 'locking' the CMP, MIC GAIN, and POWER settings, and it works very well.
>> Use it, and a little training would go a long way to acquaint your friends
>> on the basics of how the radio works, and what the controls do, such as
>> filters, and band width.  A few experiments with the NB and NR and the
>> NOTCH
>> are also well advised.  Also, a quick SAVE settings with the K3 Utility
>> will
>> help if things get too far out of hand. (I loaned my K3 to a good friend a
>> while back, and when I got it back a couple of weeks later, he'd
>> re-configured it to work very muck like his OMNI VI!  I re-loaded my
>> config
>> file, and was back to normal, he bought a K3.)
>>
>> My K3 has been to many field day and special events and racked up
>> thousands
>> of contacts with no ill affects, and the membership has become very
>> confident with it.  I feel certain that this has been partially
>> responsible
>> for several members buying K3s and other Elecraft equipment.
>>
>> But, please, "we don't need no stinkin' PINS!"
>>
>> BTW: For what it's worth, my Smart phone, doesn't actually have a PIN, I
>> just swipe an icon across the screen, just about anyone with a half a
>> brain
>> can make it work.  It' more of a nuisance than any protection.
>>
>> ...bill nr4c
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Dunlavey [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:13 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Cc: elecraftyahoo; elecraft
>> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] PIN for K3??
>>
>> Bill, I am not suggesting you need to &^%* unlock the *&^&$# radio every
>> *&^%$ time you want to %$#* play radio... I am suggesting a way to make
>> it so LIDS at club meetings or *&^% ham operators at Field Day don't do
>> something they should not do... agn, just like a cell or smart phone...
>> that's all... Matt, I will look into the other settings, I was not aware
>> of that... TU
>> w2ntv
>>
>>
>>
>>  Bill... I was asked WHY?... I then gave some reasons why it would be
> helpful or useful to have a lock or PIN... I also said, it may not be for
> everyone and an op out or turn on/off for those people who didn't want it
> should be available
> We have passwords on our computers and email accounts, do you lock up your
> computer or do you leave your internet on for hackers to get in and cause
> problems???
> I just gave a suggestion on something I THINK would be of use to me... I
> don't think it is constructive treating me like a pinata just because you
> have no use for a PIN...
>
> enjoy ham radio... I do
>
> Scott
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Re: PIN for K3??

Joe Subich, W4TV-4


> Again I understand that this would not be for everyone, but I see a
> use for the feature which of course should be 'optional'.

The problem with "optional" features is that they take development
time for the benefit of a very small number of users and get in the
way of larger projects that benefit the larger group.  In addition
something like a 'pin' can too easily render a rig inoperative to
its owner if something goes wrong.  I don't know of any amateur rig
with a pin or firmware lockout and I certainly would not want such
a capability in any rig I owned.

If you need to prevent your rig from being operated by those who should
not be doing so, unplug the power cable and take it with you or store
it someplace secure.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/31/2013 7:37 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Personally?...I tend to agree with you. In my situation, I set up portable
> under my Motorhome awning and I could use a 'Lockout' feature daily. I do
> realize this is not for the shall we say majority, however I felt your
> question was a valid one.
>
> I use the current K3 partial lockout feature and if FW was available to
> allow as you suggest a 'Pin' type lockout of the full K-Line then I would
> use that feature.
>
> Again I understand that this would not be for everyone, but I see a use for
> the feature which of course should be 'optional'.
>
> I will not validate the other comments I have read by commenting further.
>
> Good question, I hope Elecraft at least give your question serious
> consideration.
>
> regards,
> Gary
>
> On 1 February 2013 10:29, Scott W2NTV <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 1/30/2013 7:09 PM, Bill Conkling wrote:
>>
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> Which is it?  I've read your post on at least two different lists.....
>>>
>>> Do you want to prevent a thief from using your radio?  Prevent him from
>>> stealing it, lock the door.
>>>
>>> Do you want to keep your kids (and their friends) from messing with it?
>>> Your own kids should know better and also, lock the door.
>>>
>>> Or you want to keep your irresponsible club members (lids) from messing
>>> with
>>> the settings?  As has been pointed out, Elecraft has provided a means of
>>> 'locking' the CMP, MIC GAIN, and POWER settings, and it works very well.
>>> Use it, and a little training would go a long way to acquaint your friends
>>> on the basics of how the radio works, and what the controls do, such as
>>> filters, and band width.  A few experiments with the NB and NR and the
>>> NOTCH
>>> are also well advised.  Also, a quick SAVE settings with the K3 Utility
>>> will
>>> help if things get too far out of hand. (I loaned my K3 to a good friend a
>>> while back, and when I got it back a couple of weeks later, he'd
>>> re-configured it to work very muck like his OMNI VI!  I re-loaded my
>>> config
>>> file, and was back to normal, he bought a K3.)
>>>
>>> My K3 has been to many field day and special events and racked up
>>> thousands
>>> of contacts with no ill affects, and the membership has become very
>>> confident with it.  I feel certain that this has been partially
>>> responsible
>>> for several members buying K3s and other Elecraft equipment.
>>>
>>> But, please, "we don't need no stinkin' PINS!"
>>>
>>> BTW: For what it's worth, my Smart phone, doesn't actually have a PIN, I
>>> just swipe an icon across the screen, just about anyone with a half a
>>> brain
>>> can make it work.  It' more of a nuisance than any protection.
>>>
>>> ...bill nr4c
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Scott Dunlavey [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:13 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Cc: elecraftyahoo; elecraft
>>> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] PIN for K3??
>>>
>>> Bill, I am not suggesting you need to &^%* unlock the *&^&$# radio every
>>> *&^%$ time you want to %$#* play radio... I am suggesting a way to make
>>> it so LIDS at club meetings or *&^% ham operators at Field Day don't do
>>> something they should not do... agn, just like a cell or smart phone...
>>> that's all... Matt, I will look into the other settings, I was not aware
>>> of that... TU
>>> w2ntv
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Bill... I was asked WHY?... I then gave some reasons why it would be
>> helpful or useful to have a lock or PIN... I also said, it may not be for
>> everyone and an op out or turn on/off for those people who didn't want it
>> should be available
>> We have passwords on our computers and email accounts, do you lock up your
>> computer or do you leave your internet on for hackers to get in and cause
>> problems???
>> I just gave a suggestion on something I THINK would be of use to me... I
>> don't think it is constructive treating me like a pinata just because you
>> have no use for a PIN...
>>
>> enjoy ham radio... I do
>>
>> Scott
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Re: PIN for K3??

Gary Gregory-2
Joe,

Yes, removal of ALL the chords and /or power supplies is a good way.

I guess I was thinking of an easy way to 'Lock' the station without
removing hardware for when I was not in front of the station but not
heading off on a shopping expedition or similar time away from the K-Line.

Your spot on with the risk of a FW lockout becoming an issue if some
critical step were to be forgotten.

The KX3 uses a 2 button Hold for On/Off, I was imagining that a 4 button
sequence (built around numbers?) would be effective but I do see the
drawbacks as you mentioned.

Still, a healthy discussion and a few moments contemplation might be
beneficial?

Certainly any 'added' FW modification needs to be placed in order with
respect to 'other' unfinished work..:-)

Regards,
Gary

On 1 February 2013 12:00, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>  Again I understand that this would not be for everyone, but I see a
>> use for the feature which of course should be 'optional'.
>>
>
> The problem with "optional" features is that they take development
> time for the benefit of a very small number of users and get in the
> way of larger projects that benefit the larger group.  In addition
> something like a 'pin' can too easily render a rig inoperative to
> its owner if something goes wrong.  I don't know of any amateur rig
> with a pin or firmware lockout and I certainly would not want such
> a capability in any rig I owned.
>
> If you need to prevent your rig from being operated by those who should
> not be doing so, unplug the power cable and take it with you or store
> it someplace secure.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
> On 1/31/2013 7:37 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Personally?...I tend to agree with you. In my situation, I set up portable
>> under my Motorhome awning and I could use a 'Lockout' feature daily. I do
>> realize this is not for the shall we say majority, however I felt your
>> question was a valid one.
>>
>> I use the current K3 partial lockout feature and if FW was available to
>> allow as you suggest a 'Pin' type lockout of the full K-Line then I would
>> use that feature.
>>
>> Again I understand that this would not be for everyone, but I see a use
>> for
>> the feature which of course should be 'optional'.
>>
>> I will not validate the other comments I have read by commenting further.
>>
>> Good question, I hope Elecraft at least give your question serious
>> consideration.
>>
>> regards,
>> Gary
>>
>> On 1 February 2013 10:29, Scott W2NTV <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>  On 1/30/2013 7:09 PM, Bill Conkling wrote:
>>>
>>>  Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Which is it?  I've read your post on at least two different lists.....
>>>>
>>>> Do you want to prevent a thief from using your radio?  Prevent him from
>>>> stealing it, lock the door.
>>>>
>>>> Do you want to keep your kids (and their friends) from messing with it?
>>>> Your own kids should know better and also, lock the door.
>>>>
>>>> Or you want to keep your irresponsible club members (lids) from messing
>>>> with
>>>> the settings?  As has been pointed out, Elecraft has provided a means of
>>>> 'locking' the CMP, MIC GAIN, and POWER settings, and it works very well.
>>>> Use it, and a little training would go a long way to acquaint your
>>>> friends
>>>> on the basics of how the radio works, and what the controls do, such as
>>>> filters, and band width.  A few experiments with the NB and NR and the
>>>> NOTCH
>>>> are also well advised.  Also, a quick SAVE settings with the K3 Utility
>>>> will
>>>> help if things get too far out of hand. (I loaned my K3 to a good
>>>> friend a
>>>> while back, and when I got it back a couple of weeks later, he'd
>>>> re-configured it to work very muck like his OMNI VI!  I re-loaded my
>>>> config
>>>> file, and was back to normal, he bought a K3.)
>>>>
>>>> My K3 has been to many field day and special events and racked up
>>>> thousands
>>>> of contacts with no ill affects, and the membership has become very
>>>> confident with it.  I feel certain that this has been partially
>>>> responsible
>>>> for several members buying K3s and other Elecraft equipment.
>>>>
>>>> But, please, "we don't need no stinkin' PINS!"
>>>>
>>>> BTW: For what it's worth, my Smart phone, doesn't actually have a PIN, I
>>>> just swipe an icon across the screen, just about anyone with a half a
>>>> brain
>>>> can make it work.  It' more of a nuisance than any protection.
>>>>
>>>> ...bill nr4c
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Scott Dunlavey [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:13 PM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Cc: elecraftyahoo; elecraft
>>>> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] PIN for K3??
>>>>
>>>> Bill, I am not suggesting you need to &^%* unlock the *&^&$# radio every
>>>> *&^%$ time you want to %$#* play radio... I am suggesting a way to make
>>>> it so LIDS at club meetings or *&^% ham operators at Field Day don't do
>>>> something they should not do... agn, just like a cell or smart phone...
>>>> that's all... Matt, I will look into the other settings, I was not aware
>>>> of that... TU
>>>> w2ntv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Bill... I was asked WHY?... I then gave some reasons why it would be
>>>>
>>> helpful or useful to have a lock or PIN... I also said, it may not be for
>>> everyone and an op out or turn on/off for those people who didn't want it
>>> should be available
>>> We have passwords on our computers and email accounts, do you lock up
>>> your
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>>> problems???
>>> I just gave a suggestion on something I THINK would be of use to me... I
>>> don't think it is constructive treating me like a pinata just because you
>>> have no use for a PIN...
>>>
>>> enjoy ham radio... I do
>>>
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Re: PIN for K3??

N6FD
Sometimes a little lockout would be good...
http://n6fd.home.mchsi.com/CQDX.jpg

73, Erich
N6FD
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Re: PIN for K3??

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OK.  And you raised very valid points.  Which can be addressed by existing
controls.  I am not in favor of a PIN, but if someone else gets a 'warm
fuzzy' feeling by having a PIN, so be it.  There are a number of things I
THINK would be useful on the K3, but I'm a very small potato in the grand
scheme of things.

And, yes, we have passwords.  A lot of them, and I am getting too old to
keep up with all of them.  And, when I leave the office at work, I DO "Lock
the door"!  And, close it at home when company comes that aren't there for
the radio.  And the computers are behind a very solid "firewall".

As far enjoying ham radio, I do, too.  My major regret is that I didn't get
into it before I did.  

I didn't intend to turn you into a pinata, sorry for that.

Enjoy.....  See ya on the radio.....

...bill  nr4c
/\\\\
Bill... I was asked WHY?... I then gave some reasons why it would be
helpful or useful to have a lock or PIN... I also said, it may not be
for everyone and an op out or turn on/off for those people who didn't
want it should be available
We have passwords on our computers and email accounts, do you lock up
your computer or do you leave your internet on for hackers to get in and
cause problems???
I just gave a suggestion on something I THINK would be of use to me... I
don't think it is constructive treating me like a pinata just because
you have no use for a PIN...

enjoy ham radio... I do

Scott

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Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: PIN for K3??

gm3sek
In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-4
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>The problem with "optional" features is that they take development time
>for the benefit of a very small number of users and get in the way of
>larger projects that benefit the larger group.

That is a very important point - but development priorities are decided
by Elecraft AND ONLY ELECRAFT.

Certainly there are many improvements that still could be made to the
K3, and it is well known that Wayne has a List.

But it does not help Elecraft - or anyone - if every well-intended
suggestion is followed by counterattacks from people who have other
priorities. We are not here to fight "The War for Wayne's Attention".


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Re: PIN for K3??

Bill W4ZV
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Scott Dunlavey wrote
I am suggesting a way to make
it so LIDS at club meetings or *&^% ham operators at Field Day don't do
something they should not do.
Remember you can do a RESTORE CONFIG using the K3 Utility.  This will restore all settings to the saved configuration file.  If you haven't done a SAVE CONFIG recently, I strongly recommend it.

This is a good idea even for the *&^% ham who owns the rig!  I recently put my K3 in some weird state in diversity with the Sub RX not working correctly and could not recover even though I'm familiar with the rig.  A simple RESTORE CONFIG got everything working correctly again.

73,  Bill  W4ZV  (*&^% ham)