PTT

[k6dgw]

I had absolutely no idea that PTT was this complex and required all
these words to adequately describe it :-)  The only complexity in PTT
that I've ever known about is that it should stand for "push, then talk"
since it's fairly common for new hams to start talking and then push the
mic button.  I had a colleague at work [retired AF Col] who never really
mastered the concept of "point, then click" either.

I am astounded at the speed with which The Big E implemented whatever it
is that some folks wanted.  Gives whole new meaning to "Responsive."

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7
- www.cqp.org
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[N6TR]

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 10:43:33AM -0700, Fred Jensen wrote:

> I had absolutely no idea that PTT was this complex and required all
> these words to adequately describe it :-)  The only complexity in PTT
> that I've ever known about is that it should stand for "push, then talk"
> since it's fairly common for new hams to start talking and then push the
> mic button.  I had a colleague at work [retired AF Col] who never really
> mastered the concept of "point, then click" either.

Most anything simple can be over complicated by really analyzing it.

This PTT issue is a case where the amount of detail we discuss everyday
on the "secret beta test list" showed up on the general reflector.  

This stuff gets much easier when it is "done right" and when you come up
with a new operating scenario you hadn't thought about before and think:
"gee - maybe if I hook up my foot switch it will do what I need" and
voila - it does - then you realize it was all worth it.

It will do that if every possible scenario had been thought about when the
solution was developed.

So - I hope that everyone understands it really isn't that complicated.
The way you expect the radio to work is how it will work.  The problem comes
when you have many different people expecting slightly different things.

We just had to tell Wayne a white lie - that VOX really meant "Vibroplex
Operated Xmitr".  

> I am astounded at the speed with which The Big E implemented whatever it
> is that some folks wanted.  Gives whole new meaning to "Responsive."

This is simply half the reason I am so excited about this radio.  The other
half is the wonderful hardware that the new features is being implemented
on.  Not only is Elecraft the most responsive radio vendor - it also has the
best platform to support.  

Tree N6TR
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[w6jd]

Fred, you said it all!

Doug
W6JD

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Fred Jensen <[hidden email]>

> I had absolutely no idea that PTT was this complex and required all
> these words to adequately describe it :-) The only complexity in PTT
> that I've ever known about is that it should stand for "push, then talk"
> since it's fairly common for new hams to start talking and then push the
> mic button. I had a colleague at work [retired AF Col] who never really
> mastered the concept of "point, then click" either.
>
> I am astounded at the speed with which The Big E implemented whatever it
> is that some folks wanted. Gives whole new meaning to "Responsive."
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7
> - www.cqp.org
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[David Cutter]

I think this is another case of a need for a simple block diagram.

David
G3UNA

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[KK7P]

> I think this is another case of a need for a simple block diagram.

Somehow this was made to appear complicated.  It really isn't.  Here are
the three rules:

1) If you want the transmitter on, press PTT.

2) If you want the receiver on, don't press PTT.

3) If you don't want to bother with PTT, select VOX -- the radio will
still respond to PTT, but it is no longer required.


These rules are true for SSB, CW, DATA, you name it. It isn't about
modes or how many watts are being put out the antenna connector; it's
about the transmit path inside the radio being active or not.  It might
be active but transmitting nothing.  RF output set to 0, pause in
speech, CW element space when not in QSK, etc.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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