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Pactor I via soundcard

Phil Kane-2

  Does anyone here operate Pactor I via soundcard?   If so, what
  software is necessary and what HF frequencies are the "common"
  ones??

  MixW which I use with my Elecraft K2/100 has "receive only"
  capability.

  Respond directly or via this list.  The more info the better!

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Re: Pactor I via soundcard

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Hi Phil.

As far as I know there is no sound card software to transmit Pactor I.
In it's wisdom SCS has kept that proprietary and patented, along with P
II and P III. You get to buy their $1K modem if you want to transmit
Pactor of any flavor.


Phil Kane wrote:

>   Does anyone here operate Pactor I via soundcard?   If so, what
>   software is necessary and what HF frequencies are the "common"
>   ones??
>
>   MixW which I use with my Elecraft K2/100 has "receive only"
>   capability.
>
>   Respond directly or via this list.  The more info the better!
>
> --
>    73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane


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Re: Pactor I via soundcard

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R. Kevin Stover wrote:
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> Hi Phil.
>
> As far as I know there is no sound card software to transmit Pactor I.
> In it's wisdom SCS has kept that proprietary and patented, along with P
> II and P III. You get to buy their $1K modem if you want to transmit
> Pactor of any flavor.

HF under Linux will do Pactor 1.

It isn't trivial to get working though.

http://www.hf.webmasternet.org/hf_page_home.php

Rick Kunath, k9ao
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Re: Pactor I via soundcard

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> As far as I know there is no sound card software to transmit Pactor I.

HFTerm (for linux) < URL:http://sourceforge.net/projects/hfterm > does
Pactor I Tx and Rx.


> In it's wisdom SCS has kept that proprietary and patented, along with P
> II and P III. You get to buy their $1K modem if you want to transmit
> Pactor of any flavor.

Some HAL Communications products, including the DXP-38, support Pactor,
which they call "P-mode".  You can also buy old AEA PK-232MBX TNCs
cheaply at hamfests and you-know-where, and later versions of the
PK-232MBX included Pactor I. If your is older, Timewave will sell you
the upgrade EPROMs that include Pactor.  Some Kantronics multimode TNCs
also support(ed) Pactor I.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: Pactor I via soundcard

Phil Kane-2
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:18:37 -0700, Lyle Johnson wrote:

>Some HAL Communications products, including the DXP-38, support
>Pactor, which they call "P-mode".  You can also buy old AEA
>PK-232MBX TNCs cheaply at hamfests and you-know-where, and later
>versions of the PK-232MBX included Pactor I. If your is older,
>Timewave will sell you the upgrade EPROMs that include Pactor.

    Right now I have 2 AEA PK-232MBX in service with two
    software-controlled Ten-Tec MF/HF receivers for receiving
    SITOR ("commercial AMTOR") USCG marine safety broadcasts and
    general monitoring of HF Marine Public Coast stations - yes,
    there are still some on the air in the US offering Morse,
    RTTY, and SITOR service to high-seas vessels.  Both PK232MBXs
    will do Pactor I, and I do have the software for it.  To use
    this with the K2 would require setting up a complex RS-232
    switching arrangement to switch the K2 from the RigBlaster to
    the TNC and the TNC from the Ten-Tec receiver to the K2 -
    do-able because I do have the cross-over switch - but not
    exactly what I am looking for.

    Oh yes - this is in addition to the two PK-88s that handle my
    VHF packet and APRS transceivers and the soon-to-be-added
    9600 baud TNC for UHF packet.

    "TNCs-are-Us"
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Re: Pactor I via soundcard

Phil Kane-2
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:08:23 -0400, Rick Kunath wrote:

>HF under Linux will do Pactor 1.

>It isn't trivial to get working though.

  Thanks for the reply.  I have tried Linux (Red Hat and
  Mandrake) in the past and have not been totally happy with the
  setup and the fact that several programs essential to both my
  hamming and my professional operations had no Linux equivalents.

  As I explained in another posted message, I can do P-I with my
  existing TNC and software but that was not what I was looking
  for.
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Re: Pactor I via soundcard

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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:35:05 -0500, R. Kevin Stover wrote:

>As far as I know there is no sound card software to transmit
>Pactor I. In it's wisdom SCS has kept that proprietary and
>patented, along with P II and P III. You get to buy their $1K
>modem if you want to transmit Pactor of any flavor.

 Understood!!  That's why we - the Portland Regional Hospital
 Emergency Amateur Radio Team (HEARTNET) decided on Pactor I.

 I would have no problem running it with an existing TNC and
 software, but I did want a soundcard solution.  There was one
 about ten years ago that was written for a specific sound chip,
 but the author abandoned development on it.

 Thanks for the input.
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Re: Pactor I via soundcard

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Phil,

Phil Kane schrieb am 27 Oct 2007 um 11:10:

> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:35:05 -0500, R. Kevin Stover wrote:
>
> >As far as I know there is no sound card software to transmit
> >Pactor I. In it's wisdom SCS has kept that proprietary and
> >patented, along with P II and P III. You get to buy their $1K
> >modem if you want to transmit Pactor of any flavor.
>
>  Understood!!  That's why we - the Portland Regional Hospital
>  Emergency Amateur Radio Team (HEARTNET) decided on Pactor I.
>
>  I would have no problem running it with an existing TNC and
>  software, but I did want a soundcard solution.  There was one
>  about ten years ago that was written for a specific sound chip,
>  but the author abandoned development on it.

Pactor 1 was licensed to AEA for example. But they did not get it working
like the enventors did - problems with memory ARQ, the throughput was
less than in the original.

I think there are soundcard programs around that do Pactor 1. For my taste
it is less than we want to have in performance.

I built the TRX-PTC into my K2 (still low power version) and I am very
satisfied with it. I was testing it /mm in Panama, Venezuela and Columbia,
and in Crete and it worked very well. (using Airmail & Winlink 2000 and
connecting my mailbox at home in OE9).

http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/bilder/trxptc_innen_fertig.jpg
you see:

K2IO-board - bluetooth board - relais board (switch to Ptc-2 or ext. modem)
                    TRX-PTC board - EA3BLQ digital board
                speaker

For the use in our emergency service we rely on SCS modems, the price
may be high but the performance and reliability makes it worth.

73!
Werner oe9fwv



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