Pileups and the KPA500

[hf4me]

Sounds like you are suggesting a programmable touchscreen macro pad. Button
quantity, size, label, location, shape, spacing, color, etc., all up to you,
and  available in several sizes.

73, de Jim KG0KP


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From: "N3XX" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Pileups and the KPA500

> Calling on ST0R's freq happened to me a few times.  Every time I would go
> and check another band, then come back to the original band where I had
> been
> calling, my split would be gone.  I forgot to reset to split, and then
> would
> be calling on the wrong freq.  Found that I had to go into the CONFIG /
> SPLT
> SV menu and set it to YES, then split would be saved.
> Of course now that I have it set this way, I will have to be careful when
> I
> qsy to a new band that split is not set when I don't want to be operating
> split.
>
> 73,
> Tim - N3XX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "briana" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Pileups and the KPA500
>
>
>> I did hear a lot of K3's owners calling on the ST0R's frequency.
>> Perhaps the K3 needs to implement true one button split out of the box.
>> One shouldn't have to program bunches of function keys with little
>> sticky tags on the button/panel to get there.  Besides there are not
>> enough buttons to program.
>>
>> 73 de Brian/K3KO
>
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[Doug Turnbull]

Don,
   Of course you are right there are indicators on the K3 telling you
whether split is set.   To be honest sometimes a hand coming out and giving
me a "whack up the side of the head" might not be too bad of an idea.   The
change has been made to my Configuration Menu "Splt Sv to yes" and so
perhaps the problem will now be reduced.  Stations inadvertently calling on
frequency, is sadly not uncommon and their operators are deeply embarrassed
when it happens.   As to malicious interference this is a sadder story;
there are times when I would like a death ray to deal with these lids.

     73 Doug EI2CN  

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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: 31 July 2011 13:36
To: N3XX
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Pileups and the KPA500

I don't see the problem, there is a large boxed indicator on the display
telling you the K3 is in SPLIT.  Just take a quick look at the display
when changing bands.

Of course, I know there are some who would like an automated hand to
slap us on the forehead and say in a loud voice "Dummy, you are in
split".  The implementation of that device is left to the user.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/31/2011 7:43 AM, N3XX wrote:
> Calling on ST0R's freq happened to me a few times.  Every time I would go
> and check another band, then come back to the original band where I had
been
> calling, my split would be gone.  I forgot to reset to split, and then
would
> be calling on the wrong freq.  Found that I had to go into the CONFIG /
SPLT
> SV menu and set it to YES, then split would be saved.
> Of course now that I have it set this way, I will have to be careful when
I
> qsy to a new band that split is not set when I don't want to be operating
> split.
>
> 73,
> Tim - N3XX
>
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[Richard-3]

Config/Cop/slap

73
Rich
NU6T

On 7/31/2011 5:36 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> I don't see the problem, there is a large boxed indicator on the display
> telling you the K3 is in SPLIT.  Just take a quick look at the display
> when changing bands.
>
> Of course, I know there are some who would like an automated hand to
> slap us on the forehead and say in a loud voice "Dummy, you are in
> split".  The implementation of that device is left to the user.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/31/2011 7:43 AM, N3XX wrote:
>> Calling on ST0R's freq happened to me a few times.  Every time I would go
>> and check another band, then come back to the original band where I had been
>> calling, my split would be gone.  I forgot to reset to split, and then would
>> be calling on the wrong freq.  Found that I had to go into the CONFIG / SPLT
>> SV menu and set it to YES, then split would be saved.
>> Of course now that I have it set this way, I will have to be careful when I
>> qsy to a new band that split is not set when I don't want to be operating
>> split.
>>
>> 73,
>> Tim - N3XX
>>
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[N2TK]

Hi Fred,
A watt is a watt. A SS 500 watt sounds just like a tube or other brand SS
500watt on the receive end. The other features are sure nice though on the
transmit side.

But with that 1500W amp you are running at 500W, you have the power
available when you need the little extra push of 1500W. The increase in
power does on occasion help for the DX station to hear you over someone else
or even just hear you. Sometimes less than an S-unit increase does matter,
but not most of the time.

73,
N2TK, Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 6:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Pileups and the KPA500

On 7/30/2011 12:58 PM, KD3RF wrote:
> Worked ST0R on two bands so far, both using the KPA500, SB on 20 mtrs and
15
> mtr RTTY.
>
> Ran the amp at reduced input on RTTY for 200 watts out, fan didn't even
come
> on.

Can someone tell me what I could expect from my KPA500 working the ST0R
pileup that I couldn't expect from a Brand X 500W amplifier [or an
unbranded 1,500W amp running at 500W]?  My K3/KPA500 combo offers me
exquisite QSK at any speed, allows me to change bands in an instant, and
requires no tuning, all of which are distinct advantages in operating in
general.  However, none of them seem particularly relevant to the
question of working DX in a very rowdy and sometimes obnoxious pileup.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org
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[alsopb]

Yes, but you don't know beforehand whether you need it or not.  One has
no info on the strength of other signals at the DX location or whether
he suffers from S8 QRN.

So WFWL -- Watts first or weep later.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 7/31/2011 23:06, N2TK, Tony wrote:

> Hi Fred,
> A watt is a watt. A SS 500 watt sounds just like a tube or other brand SS
> 500watt on the receive end. The other features are sure nice though on the
> transmit side.
>
> But with that 1500W amp you are running at 500W, you have the power
> available when you need the little extra push of 1500W. The increase in
> power does on occasion help for the DX station to hear you over someone else
> or even just hear you. Sometimes less than an S-unit increase does matter,
> but not most of the time.
>
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony

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[k6dgw]

On 7/31/2011 4:06 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
> Hi Fred,
> A watt is a watt. A SS 500 watt sounds just like a tube or other brand SS
> 500watt on the receive end. The other features are sure nice though on the
> transmit side.

Exactly!
>
> But with that 1500W amp you are running at 500W, you have the power
> available when you need the little extra push of 1500W. The increase in
> power does on occasion help for the DX station to hear you over someone else
> or even just hear you. Sometimes less than an S-unit increase does matter,
> but not most of the time.

I began running the 1.5KW amp at 500W several months ago to prepare
myself for the KPA500.  I didn't notice any operating difference then,
and I don't now, except that my KPA500 talks to my K3, either can change
bands, there is no tune up, the amp is always on the band I'm about to
transmit on and never still on the band I just came from, and everything
is full QSK.  Honestly, if 1/2 an S-unit is going to make a difference,
I really do need to improve my operating skills.  They probably
represent a 20 dB advantage, or disadvantage in my case.

The 1.5KW amp is in my truck awaiting an auspicious moment to drive down
to Galt and deliver it to a buddy who is also a buyer.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org
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