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Chuck Chandler

Prolly a dumb mistake... no internal speaker output

We are in the process of packing to move and I have to down-size the mess
on my operating desk. As part of that the K3S was moved back and forth,
and I removed the two external speakers I had been using.

Now that I've done that I get no audio when the headphones are unplugged
from the front jack. The rear phones and speaker jacks are now empty.

Menu CONFIG:SPKRS = 2
Menu SPKR+PH = no (but setting to YES doesn't make the internal speakers
work either)
PH.R SW is set to --

I've looked at the manual and the Cady book, nothing jumps out at me.

Any other buttons to push before I take the cover off?

--
73 de Chuck, WS1L

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Ron Manfredi

Re: Prolly a dumb mistake... no internal speaker output

Try the default for speakers; set it to "1"?

Ron WA2EIO

On 5/17/2020 2:00 PM, Chuck Chandler wrote:

> We are in the process of packing to move and I have to down-size the mess
> on my operating desk. As part of that the K3S was moved back and forth,
> and I removed the two external speakers I had been using.
>
> Now that I've done that I get no audio when the headphones are unplugged
> from the front jack. The rear phones and speaker jacks are now empty.
>
> Menu CONFIG:SPKRS = 2
> Menu SPKR+PH = no (but setting to YES doesn't make the internal speakers
> work either)
> PH.R SW is set to --
>
> I've looked at the manual and the Cady book, nothing jumps out at me.
>
> Any other buttons to push before I take the cover off?
>

Chuck Chandler

Re: Prolly a dumb mistake... no internal speaker output

I tried setting SPKRS = 1 with no change.

I plugged the two external speakers back in, and they are working normally.

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:09 PM Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Try the default for speakers; set it to "1"?
>
> Ron WA2EIO
>
>
>
> On 5/17/2020 2:00 PM, Chuck Chandler wrote:
> > We are in the process of packing to move and I have to down-size the mess
> > on my operating desk. As part of that the K3S was moved back and forth,
> > and I removed the two external speakers I had been using.
> >
> > Now that I've done that I get no audio when the headphones are unplugged
> > from the front jack. The rear phones and speaker jacks are now empty.
> >
> > Menu CONFIG:SPKRS = 2
> > Menu SPKR+PH = no (but setting to YES doesn't make the internal speakers
> > work either)
> > PH.R SW is set to --
> >
> > I've looked at the manual and the Cady book, nothing jumps out at me.
> >
> > Any other buttons to push before I take the cover off?
> >
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Dick Dievendorff-4

Re: Prolly a dumb mistake... no internal speaker output

Perhaps the internal speaker has become unplugged?

Dick, K6KR

> On May 17, 2020, at 11:57, Chuck Chandler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I tried setting SPKRS = 1 with no change.
>
> I plugged the two external speakers back in, and they are working normally.
>
>
>> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:09 PM Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Try the default for speakers; set it to "1"?
>>
>> Ron WA2EIO
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 5/17/2020 2:00 PM, Chuck Chandler wrote:
>>> We are in the process of packing to move and I have to down-size the mess
>>> on my operating desk. As part of that the K3S was moved back and forth,
>>> and I removed the two external speakers I had been using.
>>>
>>> Now that I've done that I get no audio when the headphones are unplugged
>>> from the front jack. The rear phones and speaker jacks are now empty.
>>>
>>> Menu CONFIG:SPKRS = 2
>>> Menu SPKR+PH = no (but setting to YES doesn't make the internal speakers
>>> work either)
>>> PH.R SW is set to --
>>>
>>> I've looked at the manual and the Cady book, nothing jumps out at me.
>>>
>>> Any other buttons to push before I take the cover off?
>>>
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k6mkf

Re: Prolly a dumb mistake... no internal speaker output

In reply to this post by Chuck Chandler

If the headphone speaker on the front had a normally-closed switch to route
the audio to the internal speaker when no phones are presten, and that is
stuck open, then this might be the effect.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> On Behalf Of Chuck Chandler
> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:55
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Prolly a dumb mistake... no internal speaker
output
>
> I tried setting SPKRS = 1 with no change.
>
> I plugged the two external speakers back in, and they are working
normally.

>
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:09 PM Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Try the default for speakers; set it to "1"?
> >
> > Ron WA2EIO
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/17/2020 2:00 PM, Chuck Chandler wrote:
> > > We are in the process of packing to move and I have to down-size the
> > > mess on my operating desk. As part of that the K3S was moved back
> > > and forth, and I removed the two external speakers I had been using.
> > >
> > > Now that I've done that I get no audio when the headphones are
> > > unplugged from the front jack. The rear phones and speaker jacks are

now

> empty.
> > >
> > > Menu CONFIG:SPKRS = 2
> > > Menu SPKR+PH = no (but setting to YES doesn't make the internal
> > > speakers work either) PH.R SW is set to --
> > >
> > > I've looked at the manual and the Cady book, nothing jumps out at me.
> > >
> > > Any other buttons to push before I take the cover off?
> > >
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Re: Prolly a dumb mistake... no internal speaker output

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My K3 in the 2800 sn range had intermittent internal speaker. I eventually found the pins on the audio card had poor solder connections. The plug and wire from the speaker were OK. Never had further problems.
Jim H K7SSS
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Perhaps the internal speaker has become unplugged?

Dick, K6KR

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N4ZR

Re: Prolly a dumb mistake... no internal speaker output

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I'm on my third front panel headphone jack because of this very
problem. My current one has been amenable to a few quick in-and-outs,
which sometimes restores the speaker.

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On 5/17/2020 3:29 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:

> If the headphone speaker on the front had a normally-closed switch to route
> the audio to the internal speaker when no phones are presten, and that is
> stuck open, then this might be the effect.
>
> - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>> On Behalf Of Chuck Chandler
>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:55
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Prolly a dumb mistake... no internal speaker
> output
>> I tried setting SPKRS = 1 with no change.
>>
>> I plugged the two external speakers back in, and they are working
> normally.
>>
>> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:09 PM Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Try the default for speakers; set it to "1"?
>>>
>>> Ron WA2EIO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/2020 2:00 PM, Chuck Chandler wrote:
>>>> We are in the process of packing to move and I have to down-size the
>>>> mess on my operating desk. As part of that the K3S was moved back
>>>> and forth, and I removed the two external speakers I had been using.
>>>>
>>>> Now that I've done that I get no audio when the headphones are
>>>> unplugged from the front jack. The rear phones and speaker jacks are
> now
>> empty.
>>>> Menu CONFIG:SPKRS = 2
>>>> Menu SPKR+PH = no (but setting to YES doesn't make the internal
>>>> speakers work either) PH.R SW is set to --
>>>>
>>>> I've looked at the manual and the Cady book, nothing jumps out at me.
>>>>
>>>> Any other buttons to push before I take the cover off?
>>>>
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>> --
>> 73 de Chuck, WS1L
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KeithWE6R

Re: Prolly a dumb mistake... no internal speaker output

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One thing to remember, when you change the spkr+ph yes/no there is a
DELAY (in one direction) for several seconds as this is a soft-switch to
the BRAIN.
So wait a bit when you test this!
Also, Try the PH.R + -- in the other setting and then test the above
again, waiting for the delay.
**In ANY case; *IF* you do in fact have rear SPKRS jack audio, and you
unplug them, the internal speaker should come on!
If not, there is most likely a physical problem, like bad
speaker/wire/spkr jack etc. The internal speaker gets it's audio
directly from J18 (rear spkrs) jack thru L3 (could be open) on the KIO3B
Audio board.
An aside, if anyone is searching audio problems; If you have had the
Front Panel off, I have seen the J/P50 plug on the DSP to RF board *UP*
a row of pins! This totally fubars up all the rear audio!! (you can look
down in there with the top off and some magnification to check).
Keith WE6R Elecraft K3 Tech.
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