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QEX article and K2

John Wiener
I remember reading on this reflector that the spectrographic display  
design (Pan-something) in a recent QEX article was designed with the  
K2 in mind.
I was wondering whether anyone has considered this to be a worthy  
occupant of an EC2 cabinet (the large one).
Has anyone homebrewed this device?

I think it comes as a kit but from what I recall from the article, it  
seemed to be above my head as I am a pre-computer oldie/newbie or  
whatever.

Sure would give Icom a run for the money to have a K2 with a spectrum  
display.

Any thoughts?

John
AB8O






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Re: QEX article and K2

Jack Smith-6
John:

I am the author of the QEX article and the designer of the Z90 and Z91
digital panadapter.

Although these were designed as a general purpose panadapter, it turns
out that about 90% of my customers use it with a K2. Consequently, I
have modified the computer display software to integrate with the K2 to
permit mouse click tuning, i.e., click on the spectrum display with the
mouse and you can automatically tune the K2 to that frequency. It's a
pretty nifty feature and works reasonably well.

The display height is 4.5 inches or so, and with the necessary
clearances, one needs an enclosure that is about 5 inches tall, and
preferably a hair taller.

I have one customer  that installed (or he may still be in the process
of building it) the Z90 in a home made enclosure that is a scaled up K2
enclosure.

Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com



John Wiener wrote:

> I remember reading on this reflector that the spectrographic display
> design (Pan-something) in a recent QEX article was designed with the
> K2 in mind.
> I was wondering whether anyone has considered this to be a worthy
> occupant of an EC2 cabinet (the large one).
> Has anyone homebrewed this device?
>
> I think it comes as a kit but from what I recall from the article, it
> seemed to be above my head as I am a pre-computer oldie/newbie or
> whatever.
>
> Sure would give Icom a run for the money to have a K2 with a spectrum
> display.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> John
> AB8O
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: QEX article and K2

Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
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I've got a Z90, and the kit's not very difficult.  The display is too
big to fit into a EC-2 case.  The width and depth are OK, but it's not
high enough.  So, I fabricated a K2-like case from aluminum sheet,
using the little fastener blocks from Elecraft, and it looks good.
It's just about 1 1/2 K2's high, and otherwise matches.  I used the
side of the case for the main regulator heatsink.

I actually finished it in December before I went to VU7RG, but the
weather was too bad to paint it then, and I've got one more little hack to
add, that is, substituting a USB interface for the serial port.
It's actually working, but I have a bit more metal work to do to mount
the USB interface.  Then I'll paint it, and put up some photographs.

Jack has some images of the thing in bare aluminum.

But that'll have to wait until May-  I'm off on the N8S DXpedition
tomorrow and wil be back just in time to go to Visalia.

73, doug

   From: John Wiener <[hidden email]>
   Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:34:59 -0400

   I remember reading on this reflector that the spectrographic display  
   design (Pan-something) in a recent QEX article was designed with the  
   K2 in mind.
   I was wondering whether anyone has considered this to be a worthy  
   occupant of an EC2 cabinet (the large one).
   Has anyone homebrewed this device?

   I think it comes as a kit but from what I recall from the article, it  
   seemed to be above my head as I am a pre-computer oldie/newbie or  
   whatever.

   Sure would give Icom a run for the money to have a K2 with a spectrum  
   display.

   Any thoughts?

   John
   AB8O

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Re: QEX article and K2

N8LP
In reply to this post by John Wiener
That's the Z90/Z91 Panadapter from Jack, K8ZOA. You can learn more about
it on his website, www.cliftonlaboratories.com
You may be able to reconfigure the Z91 into a EC2 case (no display), but
I don't see how you would do the Z90 (GLCD display).

73,
Larry N8LP



John Wiener wrote:

> I remember reading on this reflector that the spectrographic display
> design (Pan-something) in a recent QEX article was designed with the
> K2 in mind.
> I was wondering whether anyone has considered this to be a worthy
> occupant of an EC2 cabinet (the large one).
> Has anyone homebrewed this device?
>
> I think it comes as a kit but from what I recall from the article, it
> seemed to be above my head as I am a pre-computer oldie/newbie or
> whatever.
>
> Sure would give Icom a run for the money to have a K2 with a spectrum
> display.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> John
> AB8O
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: QEX article and K2

Rob Locher W7GH
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Hi Jack,

My budget unfortunately doesn't have any room for one of your panadapters  
at the moment, but I'm curious anyway: how much bandwidth do your  
panadapters show when connected to a K2?  Does the bandwidth vary  
depending on which crystal filter is selected?

73,
- Rob W7GH




On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:43:23 -0700, Jack Smith  
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> John:
>
> I am the author of the QEX article and the designer of the Z90 and Z91  
> digital panadapter.
>
> Although these were designed as a general purpose panadapter, it turns  
> out that about 90% of my customers use it with a K2. Consequently, I  
> have modified the computer display software to integrate with the K2 to  
> permit mouse click tuning, i.e., click on the spectrum display with the  
> mouse and you can automatically tune the K2 to that frequency. It's a  
> pretty nifty feature and works reasonably well.
>
> The display height is 4.5 inches or so, and with the necessary  
> clearances, one needs an enclosure that is about 5 inches tall, and  
> preferably a hair taller.
>
> I have one customer  that installed (or he may still be in the process  
> of building it) the Z90 in a home made enclosure that is a scaled up K2  
> enclosure.
>
> Jack K8ZOA
> www.cliftonlaboratories.com
>
>
>
> John Wiener wrote:
>> I remember reading on this reflector that the spectrographic display  
>> design (Pan-something) in a recent QEX article was designed with the K2  
>> in mind.
>> I was wondering whether anyone has considered this to be a worthy  
>> occupant of an EC2 cabinet (the large one).
>> Has anyone homebrewed this device?
>>
>> I think it comes as a kit but from what I recall from the article, it  
>> seemed to be above my head as I am a pre-computer oldie/newbie or  
>> whatever.
>>
>> Sure would give Icom a run for the money to have a K2 with a spectrum  
>> display.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> John
>> AB8O
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: QEX article and K2

Jack Smith-6
Connecting a panadapter *after* the crystal filter would indeed be an
exercise in futility.

The normal connection point is to the post-mixer amplifier ahead of the
crystal filter via a high input impedance buffer amplifier, and thus the
only selectivity of importance is that of the K2's input bandpass
filters. The bandpass filter width depends upon the band selected, but
in the worst case is several hundred KHz wide.

The Z90's widest built-in span is 200 KHz, and the widest permitted
user-defined span is 250 KHz. These limits are set by the maximum filter
bandwidth within the Z90 (1 KHz) and the number of data points taken
when the data collection is set to maximum (240 data points).


Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com



Rob Locher W7GH wrote:

> Hi Jack,
>
> My budget unfortunately doesn't have any room for one of your
> panadapters at the moment, but I'm curious anyway: how much bandwidth
> do your panadapters show when connected to a K2?  Does the bandwidth
> vary depending on which crystal filter is selected?
>
> 73,
> - Rob W7GH
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:43:23 -0700, Jack Smith
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> John:
>>
>> I am the author of the QEX article and the designer of the Z90 and
>> Z91 digital panadapter.
>>
>> Although these were designed as a general purpose panadapter, it
>> turns out that about 90% of my customers use it with a K2.
>> Consequently, I have modified the computer display software to
>> integrate with the K2 to permit mouse click tuning, i.e., click on
>> the spectrum display with the mouse and you can automatically tune
>> the K2 to that frequency. It's a pretty nifty feature and works
>> reasonably well.
>>
>> The display height is 4.5 inches or so, and with the necessary
>> clearances, one needs an enclosure that is about 5 inches tall, and
>> preferably a hair taller.
>>
>> I have one customer  that installed (or he may still be in the
>> process of building it) the Z90 in a home made enclosure that is a
>> scaled up K2 enclosure.
>>
>> Jack K8ZOA
>> www.cliftonlaboratories.com
>>
>>
>>
>> John Wiener wrote:
>>> I remember reading on this reflector that the spectrographic display
>>> design (Pan-something) in a recent QEX article was designed with the
>>> K2 in mind.
>>> I was wondering whether anyone has considered this to be a worthy
>>> occupant of an EC2 cabinet (the large one).
>>> Has anyone homebrewed this device?
>>>
>>> I think it comes as a kit but from what I recall from the article,
>>> it seemed to be above my head as I am a pre-computer oldie/newbie or
>>> whatever.
>>>
>>> Sure would give Icom a run for the money to have a K2 with a
>>> spectrum display.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> John
>>> AB8O
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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