QRP Power Level?

[Dave, G4AON]

You could have a scoring system based on power levels. The RSGB low
power contest has a power level related scoring system that works well. See:

http://www.contesting.co.uk/hfcc/rules/rqrp.shtml

73 Dave, G4AON
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[Karl Larsen]

Dave wrote:
> You could have a scoring system based on power levels. The RSGB low
> power contest has a power level related scoring system that works well. See:
>  
    Field Day does have a scoring system based on power levels. The
change desired is to allow different power levels to exist at a site and
score them not all at the highest power, but rather at the actual power
they are using.

73 Karl

> http://www.contesting.co.uk/hfcc/rules/rqrp.shtml
>
> 73 Dave, G4AON
>
>
>  

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[N2EY]

In a message dated 7/8/06 9:54:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes:


> .  I additionally
> commented that I would like to see Battery allow all battery efforts at
> any power level using the exiting power level bonus structure.  

How would that work?

As it stands now, 151 to 1500 watts gets a power multiplier of 1
0 to 150 watts gets a power multiplier of 2
0 to 5 watts *and* a power source other than commercial mains or generator
gets you power multiplier of 5

What multiplier should a 5 to 150 W "Battery" station get?

73 de Jim, N2EY
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[Clark B. Wierda]

> How would that work?
>
<additional elided>
>
> What multiplier should a 5 to 150 W "Battery" station get?

5 to 150 Battery would get a multiplier of 2, but would be noted as a
Battery subclass.

> 73 de Jim, N2EY
>

Clark B. Wierda
N8CBW

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[N2EY]

In a message dated 7/8/06 10:31:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email]
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> . So it splits our club. The
> CW lovers go to their own FD and run QRP. The rest go to the Club FD and
> work SSB. If we have diversity in power then the two groups can work
> together.
>

This is a key selling point to present to the contest folks at ARRL. Your
club would better serve the purpose of FD if the group could be unified.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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[Brian Wood-5]

No, the battery subclass REQUIRES that all contacts be made on 5W or less.
This would be a class A operation with a power multuplier of 2.

This is part of the confusion. Power mults and power output requirements
should not be mixed. The battery class should be a separate class (as it
is), but allowing any amount of power (which it is not), and the multiplier
should then be applied afterward.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FD Battery rules (was QRP Power Level?)


> How would that work?
>
<additional elided>
>
> What multiplier should a 5 to 150 W "Battery" station get?

5 to 150 Battery would get a multiplier of 2, but would be noted as a
Battery subclass.

> 73 de Jim, N2EY
>

Clark B. Wierda
N8CBW



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[Tom Althoff]

Wow...I sure wasn't trying to imply that! 8-)

My post said "where PARTICIPANTS define QRP as 5W CW and 10W SSB."

Specifically there was a website of a group who were planning SS activity
that stated that they were going to be running 5W on CW and 10W PEP on SSB
during SS.    You didn't get a chance to see that since I sent it to the
guys off-list.

There are those who look at 5W DC and immediately translate it to 10W PEP
for SSB even if the "official" rules state 5W maximum power.

There seem to be many "standards" set by various organizations.   The only
one that matters is the sponsor of the contest.

One safe rule of thumb... If you never exceed 5W regardless of mode ALL
contest sponsors will acknowledge you as a QRP entry in their contests.

73 de Tom K2TA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Brindle" <[hidden email]>
To: "Tom Althoff" <[hidden email]>
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?

> Tom's email can be read to imply that ARRL Sweepstakes defines QRP on  SSB
> as other than five watts. The rule specifically states:
>
> "4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 Watts output or less);"
>
> Thus for SSB or CW, the max is 5 watts.
>
> He is right about contest rules - be sure to thoroughly read a  contest's
> rules before operating in the contest. There are  differences in the rules
> for each contest that make it interesting.  More than a few contesters
> have been bitten by assuming a rule that  doesn't exist in the contest at
> hand...
>
> On Jul 7, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Tom Althoff wrote:
>
>> I've sent Bob and Kent a few examples of QRP contests (and ARRL
>> Sweepstakes) where participants define QRP as 5W CW and 10W SSB.
>>
>> Since this in an Elecraft list let's see what the Elecraft QSO  Party
>> rules have to say about QRP power levels...
>>
>> "When using QRP calling frequencies, use QRP power (5W or less for
>> CW/Digital, 10W PEP or less for SSB)"
>>
>> When in doubt always ask the sponsor of the contest for a  clarification
>> on what they consider QRP power on SSB (before the  contest begins) so
>> you can operate the maximum power allowed for  that mode.   If the rules
>> say that 10W PEP on SSB is QRP...you can  bet the house that the guys you
>> are going to compete against are  going to be running 10W on SSB even if
>> they normally define SSB QRP  as 5W.
>>
>> 73 de Tom K2TA
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Tellefsen" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "Kent Tannery" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Kent
>>> I went through this a while back.
>>> QRP for every contest I could find is spec'd at 5w out,
>>> cw or ssb.
>>> Good luck and 73
>>> Bob N6WG
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kent Tannery" <[hidden email]>
>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:25 AM
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can someone tell me the "official" definition of QRP Power  Level?  Is
>>>> it 5
>>> watts for voice and CW modes?  I notice that many contests have a  QRP
>>> class
>>> but they do not define QRP power and I cannot find it on ARRL  site.
>>> Thanks,
>>>>   Kent
>>>>   KD5SHM
>>>>   K2/100 #4631
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