QTH.Net versus Yahoo Groups

[Jim Garland]

I subscribe to the Elecraft email digest on QTH.NET,  and also the FT-2000
digest on Yahoo Groups. Maybe nobody feels the same way, but I find the
Elecraft digest very hard to read. Each Elecraft digest comes with many
email attachments, each of which has to be opened individually. The lead
email shows the number and title of all the postings (the last one had 54),
but the numbers aren't given in the subject for the other attachments, which
makes finding them problematic. I'd like to read the postings, but doing so
is too time consuming under the current setup, and I don't want to load up
my In Box with individual postings.

 

By contrast, the FT-2000 digest lists all the postings as links and one just
clicks on the desired posting to read it.  I find it much easier to follow.
I might have a wrong setting somewhere, in which case just ignore this
message, but if by chance many other people are having the same problem,
then perhaps Elecraft should consider moving the reflector to Yahoo Groups.

 

73,

Jim W8ZR

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[Ken Kopp-3]

Oh my!

PLEASE don't move the reflector to Yahoo!!

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[wayne burdick]

Jim,

We won't be moving the reflector. But we appreciate your feedback and
will get it to those running the list.

73,
Wayne
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[David Woolley (E.L)]

Jim Garland wrote:
> I subscribe to the Elecraft email digest on QTH.NET,  and also the FT-2000
> digest on Yahoo Groups. Maybe nobody feels the same way, but I find the
> Elecraft digest very hard to read. Each Elecraft digest comes with many
> email attachments, each of which has to be opened individually. The lead

The Elecraft list can be configured to operate in two different ways,
neither of which should give you an anonymous list of messages with any
reasonable modern email reader.  The one I think you are describing is
the current best practice for list digests.  A good email program will
display the messages inline, automatically switching to account for
character set changes and people who insist on using HTML.

Its big advantage is that it makes it completely clear to the email
reader that it is dealing with a mail digest, so any failure to handle
it well is the responsibility of the reader.

The alternative is just to string the plain text versions into one long
email.  The problem with this option is that you need a high level of
technical skill to reply to an article without breaking the threading.

With the first format, even if the mail reader doesn't expand the
articles in-line, it should display the titles.  Microsoft Outlook even
allows you to copy the articles, on masse, into an email folder, and
then treat them exactly like individual emails.

> email shows the number and title of all the postings (the last one had 54),
> but the numbers aren't given in the subject for the other attachments, which
> makes finding them problematic. I'd like to read the postings, but doing so
> is too time consuming under the current setup, and I don't want to load up
> my In Box with individual postings.

Get a better email client!
>
>  
>
> By contrast, the FT-2000 digest lists all the postings as links and one just
> clicks on the desired posting to read it.  I find it much easier to follow.

I can only think of two ways of doing that. One is to not send the
emails at all, requiring that you be online when reading them, and the
other is to use HTML format with CID: links, which will bloat the
download size and limit the use of simple email clients (providing that
people stick to plain text, the standard digest format can still be read
quite easily in a mail reader that doesn't understand MIME at all.

> I might have a wrong setting somewhere, in which case just ignore this
> message, but if by chance many other people are having the same problem,
> then perhaps Elecraft should consider moving the reflector to Yahoo Groups.


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David Woolley
"The Elecraft list is a forum for the discussion of topics related to
Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio"
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[oe9fwv]

Jim,

Jim  Garland schrieb am 13 May 2009 um 11:16:

> I subscribe to the Elecraft email digest on QTH.NET,  and also the FT-2000
> digest on Yahoo Groups. Maybe nobody feels the same way, but I find the
> Elecraft digest very hard to read. Each Elecraft digest comes with many
> email attachments, each of which has to be opened individually. The lead
> email shows the number and title of all the postings (the last one had 54),
> but the numbers aren't given in the subject for the other attachments,
> which makes finding them problematic. I'd like to read the postings, but
> doing so is too time consuming under the current setup, and I don't want to
> load up my In Box with individual postings.

with a decent email client (I use Pegasus Mail) you can read the Elecraft
Digest like individual mails. You can even sort it on time, sender, thread,
subject...
I cannot imagine a better way to read a digest than in this way.
(mime digest)
The yahoo digest on the other hand needs to be digested by an external
program (thanks to Stephen Knight for this) to be converted into a mime
digest.

ymmv, but with a decent mail client you will be set IMO.

73! de Werner OE9FWV


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