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Question re TXMON

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I have recently added P3 to my K3 and (surprise!) I love it.  My  
(previously owned) P3 came with TXMON. TXMON works fine with dummy load, but  often
shows very high SWR readings when K3 ATU is used with non-resonant  antenna.
I understand that the TXMON "looks at" antenna and doesn't know what  ATU is
doing. My question is, "Is there any problem or danger to leave the TXMON  
connected when using ATU on non-resonant part of antenna bandwidth? My
reason to  ask is that tab to release TXMON sensor plug is right up against top
RS232 plug  and I need to disconnect that plug in order to disconnect TXMON
sensor  cable.  
 
TNX ES 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
 
 
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Re: Question re TXMON

Alan Bloom
There is no reason to disconnect the P3 from the sensor.  The sensor
can't damage the P3.

I suppose there might be a danger of damaging the sensor if you are
running high power into a very high SWR, but if it is in a range that
the K3 ATU can tune, I can't imagine there would be a problem.

Alan N1AL


On 06/07/2016 10:37 AM, Steve via Elecraft wrote:

> I have recently added P3 to my K3 and (surprise!) I love it.  My
> (previously owned) P3 came with TXMON. TXMON works fine with dummy load, but  often
> shows very high SWR readings when K3 ATU is used with non-resonant  antenna.
> I understand that the TXMON "looks at" antenna and doesn't know what  ATU is
> doing. My question is, "Is there any problem or danger to leave the TXMON
> connected when using ATU on non-resonant part of antenna bandwidth? My
> reason to  ask is that tab to release TXMON sensor plug is right up against top
> RS232 plug  and I need to disconnect that plug in order to disconnect TXMON
> sensor  cable.
>
> TNX ES 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
>
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Re: Question re TXMON

Bob Novas
I wondered if a high SWR affects the waveform that the P3 displays -
wouldn't the voltages be higher at high SWR?  would that put the txmonitor
into a non -linear region?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alan
> Bloom
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:29 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question re TXMON
>
> There is no reason to disconnect the P3 from the sensor.  The sensor can't
> damage the P3.
>
> I suppose there might be a danger of damaging the sensor if you are
running
> high power into a very high SWR, but if it is in a range that the K3 ATU
can tune, I
> can't imagine there would be a problem.
>
> Alan N1AL
>
>
> On 06/07/2016 10:37 AM, Steve via Elecraft wrote:
> > I have recently added P3 to my K3 and (surprise!) I love it.  My
> > (previously owned) P3 came with TXMON. TXMON works fine with dummy
> > load, but  often shows very high SWR readings when K3 ATU is used with
non-

> resonant  antenna.
> > I understand that the TXMON "looks at" antenna and doesn't know what
> > ATU is doing. My question is, "Is there any problem or danger to leave
> > the TXMON connected when using ATU on non-resonant part of antenna
> > bandwidth? My reason to  ask is that tab to release TXMON sensor plug
> > is right up against top
> > RS232 plug  and I need to disconnect that plug in order to disconnect
> > TXMON sensor  cable.
> >
> > TNX ES 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
> >
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Re: Question re TXMON

Alan Bloom
The waveform display in the P3 TX monitor auto-ranges to keep the
modulation peaks within the display limits.  However, if the forward
power gets high enough to over-range the ADC, then the waveform will be
clipped.  With the 200W HF sensor, I believe the clipping level is about
240-250 watts, depending on the calibration.

With 100W out of the K3 and assuming 100% efficiency in the tuner, the
SWR would have to get up to about 7.7:1 to cause clipping of the
displayed waveform.

Alan N1AL



On 06/07/2016 01:23 PM, Bob Novas wrote:

> I wondered if a high SWR affects the waveform that the P3 displays -
> wouldn't the voltages be higher at high SWR?  would that put the txmonitor
> into a non -linear region?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alan
>> Bloom
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:29 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question re TXMON
>>
>> There is no reason to disconnect the P3 from the sensor.  The sensor can't
>> damage the P3.
>>
>> I suppose there might be a danger of damaging the sensor if you are
> running
>> high power into a very high SWR, but if it is in a range that the K3 ATU
> can tune, I
>> can't imagine there would be a problem.
>>
>> Alan N1AL
>>
>>
>> On 06/07/2016 10:37 AM, Steve via Elecraft wrote:
>>> I have recently added P3 to my K3 and (surprise!) I love it.  My
>>> (previously owned) P3 came with TXMON. TXMON works fine with dummy
>>> load, but  often shows very high SWR readings when K3 ATU is used with
> non-
>> resonant  antenna.
>>> I understand that the TXMON "looks at" antenna and doesn't know what
>>> ATU is doing. My question is, "Is there any problem or danger to leave
>>> the TXMON connected when using ATU on non-resonant part of antenna
>>> bandwidth? My reason to  ask is that tab to release TXMON sensor plug
>>> is right up against top
>>> RS232 plug  and I need to disconnect that plug in order to disconnect
>>> TXMON sensor  cable.
>>>
>>> TNX ES 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
>>>
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