RE: Any Amplifier News
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I think that Wayne, Eric and company need a break after the K3 settles down. There are numerous good amplifier choices out there. I wonder if some think that with the Elecraft name on their amplifier it will make the same differences that the K3 does when compared to other transceivers?
73 es Merry Christmas, Dave N8AG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Dave,
Actually it may. After scrutinizing the amp 1.5 years ago at Dayton, I felt the amp was worth buying when available. - The conservative rating. - Covered 160-6M - Instant ON - Somewhat lightweight due to the switching supply. - Hopefully remote head like the 2000A so I could mount it up near the ceiling in my basement alongside the 2000A. Many of us bought the K3 site-unseen based on Elecraft's reputation with the K1 and K2. That turned out to be a very good decision. Some of us feel the same about the amp, if/when available. I am happy with my 2000A. It has given me very good service. And Acom support has been first rate. I have a few spare sets of tubes so expect no major issues. The couple of problems I did have with the amp were taken care of quickly with excellent support from Acom. It is like Elecraft support. I don't expect to be selling the 2000A in the near future, even if Elecraft comes out with their amp. And I just feel it is time for a well built solid-state amp. But I am not holding my breath for Santa to put a KPA-1500 under the tree, at least this year. And besides Eric and Wayne are too young to take sleep breaks :-) Merry Christmas everyone N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Agsten Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:53 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] RE: Any Amplifier News I think that Wayne, Eric and company need a break after the K3 settles down. There are numerous good amplifier choices out there. I wonder if some think that with the Elecraft name on their amplifier it will make the same differences that the K3 does when compared to other transceivers? 73 es Merry Christmas, Dave N8AG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Dave Agsten
Dave Agsten wrote: > There are numerous good amplifier choices out there. I wonder if some think that with the Elecraft name on their amplifier it will make the same differences that the K3 does when compared to other transceivers? Jeff Wandling W7BRS wrote: > > Does the market need another linear? Probably not. The thing that makes the KPA-1500 most attractive from my perspective, and surely others, is it's supposed SO2R ability. What other amps on the market offer similar capability other than the SPE Expert 1K-FA (which is only 1kW)? A KPA-1500 is domestic, so eliminates the extra steps involved in importing, et.al. compared to an SPE. It would be nice to know the specs on port isolation and actual band-switching delay (auto-tuning aside) in SO2R if a KPA-1500 becomes a market reality, and whether it would be deemed contest grade with frequent band switching, or one would be better off looking at two separate amps. At the proposed price of the KPA-1500 in 2006 compared to separates, eyes definitely gravitate toward the Elecraft amp. Best 73 Eric NO3M (ex NI3S) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: RE: Any Amplifier News
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Eric,
> > The thing that makes the KPA-1500 most attractive from my perspective, and > surely others, is it's supposed SO2R ability. What other amps on the > market offer similar capability other than the SPE Expert 1K-FA (which is > only 1kW)? A KPA-1500 is domestic, so eliminates the extra steps > involved in importing, et.al. compared to an SPE. You don't have to worry about import and support on the SPE Expert, it is taken care of by Bill at B&B Tech http://www.spe-na.com/ Bill offers excellent support, so I wouldn't think twice. Note also that I get significantly more than 1KW out on mine, even more than 1300 watts. 73, Mitch DJØQN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Checking product information I can see it is advertised as a 1000W PEP
amplifier. What happens with IMD at over 1300W? / SM2EKM ------------------------------- Mitch Wolfson DJØQN wrote: > Eric, >> >> The thing that makes the KPA-1500 most attractive from my perspective, >> and surely others, is it's supposed SO2R ability. What other amps on >> the market offer similar capability other than the SPE Expert 1K-FA >> (which is only 1kW)? A KPA-1500 is domestic, so eliminates the extra >> steps involved in importing, et.al. compared to an SPE. > > You don't have to worry about import and support on the SPE Expert, it > is taken care of by Bill at B&B Tech http://www.spe-na.com/ > > Bill offers excellent support, so I wouldn't think twice. Note also that > I get significantly more than 1KW out on mine, even more than 1300 watts. > > 73, > Mitch DJØQN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Never had a problem. I was concerned as well, but informal tests showed no
problems. I haven't had a chance to use a spectrum analyzer on it yet. I run it at the legal limit (750 watts), anyway ;-) 73, Mitch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Erik Holm" <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: Any Amplifier News Checking product information I can see it is advertised as a 1000W PEP amplifier. What happens with IMD at over 1300W? / SM2EKM ------------------------------- Mitch Wolfson DJØQN wrote: > Eric, >> >> The thing that makes the KPA-1500 most attractive from my perspective, >> and surely others, is it's supposed SO2R ability. What other amps on the >> market offer similar capability other than the SPE Expert 1K-FA (which is >> only 1kW)? A KPA-1500 is domestic, so eliminates the extra steps >> involved in importing, et.al. compared to an SPE. > > You don't have to worry about import and support on the SPE Expert, it is > taken care of by Bill at B&B Tech http://www.spe-na.com/ > > Bill offers excellent support, so I wouldn't think twice. Note also that I > get significantly more than 1KW out on mine, even more than 1300 watts. > > 73, > Mitch DJØQN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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If I were Wayne and Eric, (which manifestly I am not), I would think not
twice but many times about investing design and production engineering effort to a new product which would compete with many similar products currently on the market for a very limited potential market which is renowned for being very careful with money (putting it mildly) in a very difficult economic environment which appears will get worse before it gets better. 73 Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> If I were Wayne and Eric, (which manifestly I am not), I would think
> not twice but many times about investing design and production... I also would think that Wayne and Eric will also be looking towards more goodies for the K3, i.e. Panadapters, variable bandwidth roofing filters, improving the already excellent firmware of the K3, etc., which however doesn't change my lust for a KPA1500 or KPA800. ;-) Happy Holidays! vy 73 de toby -- DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz) K2 #885, K2/100 #3248, K3/100 #67 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Mitch Wolfson DJØQN
In your case that is of course very good, you probably have
better IMD then at 1000W level. But then we have all the others. A fact is that far more then 50% of all SSB signals heard on the ham bands do have poor IMD. It did not use to be like this 25 years ago. Why is it like this? Manufactures play a majore role in this. Like Elecraft K3 forexample, this is a radio that will get considerably poorer IMD vise operated at maximum SSB PEP power. Joe Ham does not understand this and he will operate the box at maximum PEP power. Oh well I better go and celebrate Christmas but I´m recovering from a bad pneumonia and feel quite lousy. Merry Christmas Jim SM2EKM ---------------------------- Mitch Wolfson DJØQN wrote: > Never had a problem. I was concerned as well, but informal tests showed > no problems. I haven't had a chance to use a spectrum analyzer on it > yet. I run it at the legal limit (750 watts), anyway ;-) > > 73, > Mitch > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Erik Holm" <[hidden email]> > Cc: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: Any Amplifier News > > > Checking product information I can see it is advertised as a 1000W PEP > amplifier. What happens with IMD at over 1300W? > > / SM2EKM > ------------------------------- > Mitch Wolfson DJØQN wrote: >> Eric, >>> >>> The thing that makes the KPA-1500 most attractive from my >>> perspective, and surely others, is it's supposed SO2R ability. What >>> other amps on the market offer similar capability other than the SPE >>> Expert 1K-FA (which is only 1kW)? A KPA-1500 is domestic, so >>> eliminates the extra steps involved in importing, et.al. compared to >>> an SPE. >> >> You don't have to worry about import and support on the SPE Expert, it >> is taken care of by Bill at B&B Tech http://www.spe-na.com/ >> >> Bill offers excellent support, so I wouldn't think twice. Note also >> that I get significantly more than 1KW out on mine, even more than >> 1300 watts. >> >> 73, >> Mitch DJØQN > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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...which however doesn't change my lust for a KPA1500 or KPA800. ;-) Me neither, Toby.
This is really very simple:
The K3 delivery time is down to a mere 3 weeks, so
it's time to trot out the KPA's.
Giddy up!
73 & Happy Holidays,
John K1JD
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Yes, more goodies for the K3...a REMOTE version of the KAT3 that can be placed at (or near) the antenna feedpoint. 73, Henry - K4TMC K3/100 #98 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Sent: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 5:32 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: Any Amplifier News > If I were Wayne and Eric, (which manifestly I am not), I would think > not twice but many times about investing design and production... I also would think that Wayne and Eric will also be looking towards more goodies for the K3, i.e. Panadapters, variable bandwidth roofing filters, improving the already excellent firmware of the K3, etc., which however doesn't change my lust for a KPA1500 or KPA800. ;-) Happy Holidays! vy 73 de toby --DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz) K2 #885, K2/100 #3248, K3/100 #67 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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