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John Perlick

RFI issues with Keurig Dual Pro 5200

Hello all:

I am wondering if this new model for Keurig has an SCR chopper to regulate temp in the heater coils? Something changed...if I had one, I would take it into the lab to figure outn what went wrong. Have full FCC EMI test capability--could find out if they are failing in a snap! But, don't have one...sigh....

John

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: RFI issues (hawley, charles j jr)
2. Audio controller/limiter (Mark Simms)
3. Re: Audio controller/limiter (Robert Cunnings)
4. Re: Audio controller/limiter (Mark Simms)
5. Re: K3 always 100 W (Pedro, EA4KD)
6. Re: February 16, 2020 SSB net (K8TE)
7. Re: P3 Goodness and questions (David Box)
8. Re: RFI issues (Jim Brown)
9. Re: RFI issues (Lyn Norstad)
10. Sub Receiver for K3S (W4IEN)
11. Re: RFI issues (Jim Brown)
12. Ivory Coast DXpedition (Lyn Norstad)
13. Re: Ivory Coast DXpedition (Rick Bates, NK7I)
14. Re: Ivory Coast DXpedition ([hidden email])
15. Changed Listing Kx-2 For Sale or Trade $1100
(George P Linehan III)
16. Re: KX-2 For Sale $1200 AS NEW CANCEL LISTING NEW ONE POSTED
(George P Linehan III)
17. Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 190, Issue 17 (Norman)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 03:14:56 +0000
From: "hawley, charles j jr" <[hidden email]>
To: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
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There's a paragraph of slightly raised writing on the bottom...really hard to read, but if I get a chance to turn it over again, I'll check. It's set up for morning right now.

Jack BMW Motorcycles
Chuck KE9UW
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> On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> ?Seems like a good reason not to buy one. Which reminds me, do they have a Part 15 label attached? Not that they actually meet Part 15 requirements.
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> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
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>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:02 PM, hawley, charles j jr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> ?Keurig Pro Duo 5200 (they leak stuff out when you turn them upside down...)
>>
>> Jack BMW Motorcycles
>> Chuck KE9UW
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>>>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 7:20 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>> ?What's the MODEL number??73,Gary K9GS
>>> -------- Original message --------From: "hawley, charles j jr" <[hidden email]> Date: 2/21/20 5:08 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email], W8JH <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues This is the newest one that brews a carafe of 10 cups or does a pod into your mug. I too have had others without any noise, but this new one puts a huge sine wave of noise on the panadapter. I have put ferrite on the line cord which don't affect it. I just turn the thing off after brewing...or wait about 5 minutes and the noise goes away. Jack BMW MotorcyclesChuck [hidden email] from my iPad> On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Lyn Norstad <[hidden email]> wrote:> > ?I've had several of the inexpensive Keurig Pod type, and have never had an issue on any band.> > Kitchen is right next door to the shack, and the pot is on all day.> > Lyn> W0LEN> > > -----Original Message-----> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-bou

[hidden email]] On Behalf Of hawley, charles j jr> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 2:04 PM> To: W8JH> Cc: [hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues> > I still love the coffee maker and would buy it again. I just turn it off after the pot or pod is brewed.> > Chuck Jack Hawley > KE9UW> > Sent from my iPhone, cjack > >> On Feb 20, 2020, at 12:12 PM, W8JH <[hidden email]> wrote:>> >> ?ke9uw wrote>>> We bought a new Keurig coffee maker which does a pot or also the pods. It>>> puts a huge noise out to the ham frequencies. Have to turn it off to get>>> on 80M>> >> That is a serious conflict!>> >> 80m morning greyline without caffeine, people cannot live this way!!>> >> >> >> >> ----->> 73,>> >> Joe, W8JH>> >> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.>> -->> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/>> ______________________________________________________________>> Elecraft mailing list>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 21:25:59 -0600
From: Mark Simms <[hidden email]>
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Subject: [Elecraft] Audio controller/limiter
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Is there a way to limit the audio output on the K3s to prevent sudden loud
signals from causing hearing damage? This happens in CW contest operation
and I've adjusted the AGC to minimal threshold and slope without any
significant effect. Are there any other adjustments in the unit itself? Has
anyone used an external device between the K3s and headphones to accomplish
this? If so, what device was helpful?

Mark Simms, W9ms

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 21:36:37 -0700 (MST)
From: Robert Cunnings <[hidden email]>
To: Mark Simms <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio controller/limiter
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See the description of the CONFIG:AF LIM menu option on page 57 of the K3S
manual.

Bob NW8L

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020, Mark Simms wrote:

> Is there a way to limit the audio output on the K3s to prevent sudden loud
> signals from causing hearing damage? This happens in CW contest operation
> and I've adjusted the AGC to minimal threshold and slope without any
> significant effect. Are there any other adjustments in the unit itself? Has
> anyone used an external device between the K3s and headphones to accomplish
> this? If so, what device was helpful?
>
> Mark Simms, W9ms
>

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 22:54:17 -0600
From: Mark Simms <[hidden email]>
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Thanks, I'll check it out.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:36 PM Robert Cunnings <[hidden email]> wrote:

> See the description of the CONFIG:AF LIM menu option on page 57 of the K3S
> manual.
>
> Bob NW8L
>
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2020, Mark Simms wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to limit the audio output on the K3s to prevent sudden
> loud
> > signals from causing hearing damage? This happens in CW contest operation
> > and I've adjusted the AGC to minimal threshold and slope without any
> > significant effect. Are there any other adjustments in the unit itself?
> Has
> > anyone used an external device between the K3s and headphones to
> accomplish
> > this? If so, what device was helpful?
> >
> > Mark Simms, W9ms
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 14:04:13 +0100
From: "Pedro, EA4KD" <[hidden email]>
To: "'Keith Trinity WE6R'" <[hidden email]>,
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 always 100 W
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Thank you very much Keith and Don. Until today I haven?t had time to review
the possible failures.
I have checked and the D37 is failing so I am going to replace both D36 and
D37, what kind of diodes should I buy to replace them?
I have also checked the rest of possible and failures and everything seems
ok.

After about 100k QSO this is second fault, firts changed the pin in the back
panel about the 12 V error problem.

K3, great rig.

Pedro, EA4KD
K3 #188

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It could be D36 & 37 on the RF board. Earlier ones (1st few thousand)
had weak components. But any of them can fail and usually there is
runaway power out.
If that is not it, look for burned components under the KANT3 board
around T4 or on the underside near D36 & 37 look for burnt traces.
If it is older than about #5500, it could be front panel tin pin
oxidation, replaced them with gold.
Keith
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 09:33:26 -0700 (MST)
From: K8TE <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] February 16, 2020 SSB net
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I use Excel a lot! But, I would never consider using it as any kind of
logger.

A very popular on-line program for net logging is NetLogger:

https://www.netlogger.org/

I recommend you check it out. Several groups I frequent use it. One cool
feature is it's on-line so one net session can have multiple users.

Scott, N3FJP, of Amateur Contact Logger fame, has a net logger:

http://www.n3fjp.com/otherprograms.html

That may suit your purposes better, especially if you don't want the on-line
capability of NetLogger.

73, Bill, K8TE

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 11:04:41 -0600
From: David Box <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Goodness and questions
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Jerry

For #1 there are a couple of things a) in menu set one of the function
buttons to "knob tap" and "knob hold" the select knob takes more
pressure so using one of the function buttons is much less force. b) I
have my K3s and P3 mounted to a single board, I put the bails down and
then built a couple of simple clamps to clamp the bails to the board,
makes the K3s/P3 combo a single unit not only keeps the P3 fixed but
also simplifies cabling so they act as one unit when needing to move
around. Kinda like having a large K4 :)

#2 go into the menu and turn the Noise Blanker on "NB En", you may have
to experiment with the NB Level (I set mine on 5) depending on your own
conditions.

de Dave K5MWR

On 2/20/2020 09:00, [hidden email] wrote:

> I recently obtained a P3 and I'm and exceedingly happy! Now that I own it I
> feel bad that I wasted a few years trying other solutions that introduced
> noise and undue complexity into my station.
>
> Just a few notes and questions because the manual is helpful but I don't
> fully understand what I'm reading yet.
>
>
>
> 1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent
> the unit from sliding?
> 2. The signal/noise floor jumps a lot and I'm not sure if that's due to
> local interference or something in my setup. Based on reading I likely need
> to noise troubleshoot/filter my station. I don't see an AGC setting for the
> P3. Any suggestions?
> 3. What serial number requires the mod? My serial is 3251
> 4. I need a serial port screw stud - can I buy that from Elecraft when
> I purchase a cable + vga card?
> 5. Is there a quick setup cheat-sheet anyone has for the P3?
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> Thanks in advance
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 10:44:42 -0800
From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
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On 2/21/2020 6:12 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
> In Chicagoland, all wiring must be in conduits, and both the
> kitchen and the shack are on their own circuits. In fact, the only 'home
> grown' RFI I am aware of is 1 out of 4 identical HP 24" LED monitors that
> puts out a steady carrier on 30 meters.

Having lived in Chicago for 42 years and maintained an engineering
consulting practice there for 30 years, and as a former member of IBEW
134, I'm well aware of the conduit requirement. :) Indeed, I had a lot
of conduit installed in the 2-flat I bought on the North Side in 1986.
Which is also why I added the phrase "the nature of electrical wiring in
your home also matters." The large sound systems I designed and
specified used miles of conduit for both power and signal wiring. When I
moved to W6 in 2006, I had the outbuilding that would become my shack
and consulting office wired with EMT before I moved in.

Several other points here. First, RFI is generally NOT conducted on
wiring from one piece of equipment to another, it is radiated by wiring
from one piece of equipment to another. And it is often present on, and
radiated by, the equipment ground conductor (the green wire). Properly
installed conduit (continuous and bonded at every junction and at both
ends) provides shielding, and prevents radiation.

Second, when I operated in Chicago, my noise level was fairly high, with
contributions from my own home, my tenant who lived below me, the homes
that surrounded mine, Newark's corporate office building at the end of
my block, whatever was on power lines, and trains on the Northwestern
track across the street. With that noise level, usually in the range of
S6 to S8, it would be pretty hard to notice yet another noise source 50
ft from my antennas.

73, Jim K9YC

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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 13:59:15 -0600
From: "Lyn Norstad" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
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Thanks for that, Jim.

We are actually 38 miles due West of the Willis (Sears) tower in Central
Kane County. There is virtually no industrial noise source nearby, but we
do occasionally get interference from medical apparatus.

With my 360 ft. EDZ (cut for 3.5 MHz) strung E-W at about 30 feet, I
normally have a background noise level in the S1 - S2 level, depending on
band and time of day. I have a backup antenna in the attic (modified G5RV)
that does not fare quite as well, but is still useable.

Approximately 10 mi SW of us is a different sort of problem. A commercial
shortwave station has been built and is operating on an experimental basis.
Their plan is to transmit market data over the pole to High Speed Traders in
Europe (milliseconds faster than cable). They are currently licensed on
frequencies on both sides of our 40 meter band, and between our 30 and 20
meter bands. They are using a 25 KW transmitter into an 18 db gain curtain,
with an EIRP of 808 KW. We are located on the edge of their 38? beamwidth.
To date I have only seen them in the region just below 40 meters. To say
they are noticeable would be an understatement.

There are quite a number of similar stations across the country, so I'm sure
others in the group have encountered them as well.

73
Lyn, W?LEN

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Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 12:45 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues

On 2/21/2020 6:12 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
> In Chicagoland, all wiring must be in conduits, and both the
> kitchen and the shack are on their own circuits. In fact, the only 'home
> grown' RFI I am aware of is 1 out of 4 identical HP 24" LED monitors that
> puts out a steady carrier on 30 meters.

Having lived in Chicago for 42 years and maintained an engineering
consulting practice there for 30 years, and as a former member of IBEW
134, I'm well aware of the conduit requirement. :) Indeed, I had a lot
of conduit installed in the 2-flat I bought on the North Side in 1986.
Which is also why I added the phrase "the nature of electrical wiring in
your home also matters." The large sound systems I designed and
specified used miles of conduit for both power and signal wiring. When I
moved to W6 in 2006, I had the outbuilding that would become my shack
and consulting office wired with EMT before I moved in.

Several other points here. First, RFI is generally NOT conducted on
wiring from one piece of equipment to another, it is radiated by wiring
from one piece of equipment to another. And it is often present on, and
radiated by, the equipment ground conductor (the green wire). Properly
installed conduit (continuous and bonded at every junction and at both
ends) provides shielding, and prevents radiation.

Second, when I operated in Chicago, my noise level was fairly high, with
contributions from my own home, my tenant who lived below me, the homes
that surrounded mine, Newark's corporate office building at the end of
my block, whatever was on power lines, and trains on the Northwestern
track across the street. With that noise level, usually in the range of
S6 to S8, it would be pretty hard to notice yet another noise source 50
ft from my antennas.

73, Jim K9YC
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 15:35:28 -0500
From: W4IEN <[hidden email]>
To: Elecraft <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver for K3S
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Is the sub receiver for the K3S still available? I cannot find it on the Elecraft website. Does anyone have one they would be willing to part with?

72/73,
EM73vx
Robin
G-QRP #12386
SKCC #7294
W4IEN
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 12:50:29 -0800
From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
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On 2/22/2020 11:59 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
> Approximately 10 mi SW of us is a different sort of problem. A commercial
> shortwave station has been built and is operating on an experimental basis.
> Their plan is to transmit market data over the pole to High Speed Traders in
> Europe (milliseconds faster than cable). They are currently licensed on
> frequencies on both sides of our 40 meter band, and between our 30 and 20
> meter bands. They are using a 25 KW transmitter into an 18 db gain curtain,
> with an EIRP of 808 KW.

This is a great example a situation that demands a rig as good as a K3S!
And probably the highest cost version of a K4.

73, Jim K9YC

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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 15:46:23 -0600
From: "Lyn Norstad" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Elecraft] Ivory Coast DXpedition
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TU5PCT Czech DXpedition to the Ivory Coast is burning up 20 meters FT8 this
afternoon on multiple stations.

<https://www.cdxp.cz/> https://www.cdxp.cz/

73

Lyn, W?LEN

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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 13:57:57 -0800
From: "Rick Bates, NK7I" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ivory Coast DXpedition
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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Thanks for the spot, I was elsewhere on the bands and hadn't paid
attention to 20M (I'm prepping for the VP8PJ team tomorrow).

Logged in under 2 minutes from the listening start; Yay Elecraft (K3,
P3, KAT500 and KPA500) with some help from SteppIR (DB36/80 at 60').

Another band slot filled, life is good.

Rick NK7I

On 2/22/2020 1:46 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

> TU5PCT Czech DXpedition to the Ivory Coast is burning up 20 meters FT8 this
> afternoon on multiple stations.
>
>
>
> <https://www.cdxp.cz/> https://www.cdxp.cz/
>
>
>
> 73
>
> Lyn, W?LEN
>
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 17:00:48 -0500
From: [hidden email]
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<[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ivory Coast DXpedition
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Thanks. Got them first call.

Dave wo2x

On 2/22/2020 1:46 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

> TU5PCT Czech DXpedition to the Ivory Coast is burning up 20 meters FT8
> this afternoon on multiple stations.
>
>
>
> <https://www.cdxp.cz/> https://www.cdxp.cz/
>
>
>
> 73
>
> Lyn, W?LEN
>
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:09:10 -0800
From: George P Linehan III <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] Changed Listing Kx-2 For Sale or Trade $1100
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As new, internal tuner & battery & charger, carrying bag.. will consider trade for (Forgive me) an ICOM 7300..
TNX & 73, PAUL WA6YCA

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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:10:25 -0800
From: George P Linehan III <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX-2 For Sale $1200 AS NEW CANCEL LISTING NEW
ONE POSTED
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> On Feb 21, 2020, at 3:02 PM, George P Linehan III <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> ?Unused - Internal tuner, internal Battery with Charger, all cables, carrying bag, hat. Will pay shipping to lower 48.
> 73, PAUL WA6YCA

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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 20:35:29 -0500
From: Norman <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 190, Issue 17
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I purchased a K3in May 2011 at Daton Ohio ,i would like to purchase a cw filter 300 . I am in usa until
10th March 2020
Tel
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My call sign is G4NFS
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> 1. Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 190, Issue 16 (Andreas Wachter)
> 2. Re: RFI issues (Keith Trinity WE6R)
> 3. K3 Mini (W4IEN)
> 4. Re: RFI issues (Lyn Norstad)
> 5. Re: P3 Goodness and questions (Gmail - George)
> 6. February 16, 2020 SSB net (Eric Lanzl)
> 7. Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 190, Issue 16 (Jim Brown)
> 8. Re: RFI issues (Jim Brown)
> 9. Re: RFI issues (Dave New, N8SBE)
> 10. Re: RFI issues (Dave New, N8SBE)
> 11. KX-2 For Sale $1200 AS NEW (George P Linehan III)
> 12. Re: RFI issues (hawley, charles j jr)
> 13. Re: RFI issues (Jim Brown)
> 14. KX-2 For Sale $1200 AS NEW (John Harper)
> 15. Re: RFI issues (Gary K9GS)
> 16. Re: KX-2 For Sale $1200 AS NEW (Brian Hunt)
> 17. Re: RFI issues (hawley, charles j jr)
> 18. Re: RFI issues (hawley, charles j jr)
> 19. Re: RFI issues (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
> 20. Re: RFI issues (Lyn Norstad)
> 21. Re: RFI issues (Andy Moorwood)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 09:17:31 -0800
> From: Andreas Wachter <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 190, Issue 16
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Yes, I do have three neighbors: two are about 550 ft away and one is 700 ft away. I have not asked them yet to pull their breakers. I thought the distance was far enough to eliminate RFI from household appliances, plasma TVs, etc. Also, the RFI is 24x7 so if it were caused by my neighbors? plasma TVs, there shouldn?t be any RFI at, say, 3AM in the morning. There are no electric fences in our area. I do have a UPS. I eliminated that as the source also.
>
> 73, Andreas K6AKW
>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 09:42:05 -0800
>> From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
>> Message-ID:
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>>> On 2/18/2020 4:38 PM, Andreas Wachter via Elecraft wrote:
>>> Yes, I did run the K3 off of a battery and pulled the main AC breaker. Didn?t make any difference. Thus my suspicion that the RFI is related to the 208 kW ERP TV station (and/or 63 kW EPR FM station) which are within 1.6 miles and in direct line of sight.
>>
>> Do you have neighbors? Did you pull their breakers at the same time?
>>
>> Do you have a UPS? They continue to run without power, so both they and
>> any connected equipment can create noise.
>>
>> Did you take the time to study the link I posted?
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 09:21:00 -0800
> From: Keith Trinity WE6R <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
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> RF overload can do a lot of things.
> Try above and below 12W (8W on 6m) to see if the KPA3 is swamped.
> Or an antenna on the RX port (If KXV3 equipped).
> Also RF overload can excite any loose connections at the tower site,
> rusty metal, fence joints etc.
> You are just going to have to sniff around with a portable setup.
> Keith WE6R
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 12:27:04 -0500
> From: W4IEN <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Mini
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> I am running my K3 Mini to my K3S via wireless. I am running into a strange issue. Every time I go into CW mode I am getting a ringing noise. I can get rid of the noise by changing the RF Gain. The thing I am wondering about is I am not hearing any CW signals on 20m, 40m or 80m. I am just wondering if there is something I have set wrong. I am also wondering if the RF Gain is set properly. I know this question is a little vague but I am in the last stages of getting this remote setup working well. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
> 72/73,
> EM73vx
> Robin
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> W4IEN
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 11:41:55 -0600
> From: "Lyn Norstad" <[hidden email]>
> To: "'hawley, charles j jr'" <[hidden email]>, "'W8JH'"
> <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
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> I've had several of the inexpensive Keurig Pod type, and have never had an issue on any band.
>
> Kitchen is right next door to the shack, and the pot is on all day.
>
> Lyn
> W0LEN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of hawley, charles j jr
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 2:04 PM
> To: W8JH
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
>
> I still love the coffee maker and would buy it again. I just turn it off after the pot or pod is brewed.
>
> Chuck Jack Hawley
> KE9UW
>
> Sent from my iPhone, cjack
>
>> On Feb 20, 2020, at 12:12 PM, W8JH <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> ?ke9uw wrote
>>> We bought a new Keurig coffee maker which does a pot or also the pods. It
>>> puts a huge noise out to the ham frequencies. Have to turn it off to get
>>> on 80M
>>
>> That is a serious conflict!
>>
>> 80m morning greyline without caffeine, people cannot live this way!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> 73,
>>
>> Joe, W8JH
>>
>> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.
>> --
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> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:51:25 -0500
> From: "Gmail - George" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Goodness and questions
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> I have 24xx K3. It did need the mod. Actually put in when I had a LP
> pan-adapter before the P3.
> The mod is changing one resistor. R8 from 1k to 13k. I used a 1/4 watt only
> because I do not stock 1/8 watt.
>
> On the Elecraft web site K3IOBUFFKT - IF Output Buffer Gain Modification is
> the kit for $5.
> https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-enhancements-and-mods-and-tech-alerts
>
> The instructions are
> https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/Mod%20Notes%20Alerts/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf
> The mod sheet says all K3 shipped after September 2009 have this mod.
>
> Hopes that helps a bit
>
> 73
> George Danner
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:00 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Goodness and questions
>
> I recently obtained a P3 and I'm and exceedingly happy! Now that I own it I
> feel bad that I wasted a few years trying other solutions that introduced
> noise and undue complexity into my station.
>
> Just a few notes and questions because the manual is helpful but I don't
> fully understand what I'm reading yet.
>
>
>
> 1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent
> the unit from sliding?
> 2. The signal/noise floor jumps a lot and I'm not sure if that's due to
> local interference or something in my setup. Based on reading I likely need
> to noise troubleshoot/filter my station. I don't see an AGC setting for the
> P3. Any suggestions?
> 3. What serial number requires the mod? My serial is 3251
> 4. I need a serial port screw stud - can I buy that from Elecraft when
> I purchase a cable + vga card?
> 5. Is there a quick setup cheat-sheet anyone has for the P3?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>
>
> Jerry Moore
>
> AE4PB
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 18:59:07 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Eric Lanzl <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] February 16, 2020 SSB net
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> I am experimenting with an excel spreadsheet as a way to log the stations checking in to the net. I am hoping that I can post them to the forum without problems. I will try to do this for this week's net.
> Thank you to the relay stations as conditions were up and down during the net. The net meets at 18:00Z. on Sundays on a frequency of 14.303.5 and all are welcome to participate in the net.
>
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> WB9JNZ
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> Eric
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> IL
> |
> K3
> |
> 4017
> |
> Net Control
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> K8NU/7
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> Carl
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> OH/WA
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> FT
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> 2000
> |
> ?
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> NS7P
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> Phil
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> OR
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> K3
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> 1826
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> ?
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> KO5V
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> ?
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> NM
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> K2/100
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> 7225
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> Relay Station
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> N6PGQ
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> Bob
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> CA
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> K3
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> 5891
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> ?
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> |
> ZL1PWD
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> Peter
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> NZ
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> K3
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> 139
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> ?
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> |
> N4NRW
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> Roger
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> SC
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> K3
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> 1318
> |
> ?
> |
> |
> W2RWA
> |
> Dick
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> NY
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> K3 / KX3
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> 2603
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> ?
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> |
> W4DML
> |
> Doug
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> TN
> |
> K3
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> 6433
> |
> ?
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> |
> KB9AVO
> |
> Paul
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> IN
> |
> K3S
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> 11103
> |
> ?
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> |
> K6FW
> |
> Frank
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> CA
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> K3S
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> 11672
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> ?
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> |
> NC5G
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> George
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> TX
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> K2/100
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> 2217
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> ?
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> |
> N4UAG/7
> |
> Craig
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> AZ
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> Yaesu
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> 450
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> ?
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> |
> W7RKT
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> Brian
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> WA
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> Alinco
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> DX SR8
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> ?
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> |
> KE7QBN
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> Craig
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> UT
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> Icom
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> 718
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> ?
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> |
> WA9SUG/7
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> Al
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> AZ
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> Icom
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> 7700
> |
> ?
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> |
> KD8CIV
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> John
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> MI
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> KX3
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> 4654
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> ?
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> |
> N7AYQ
> |
> Bill
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> UT
> |
> Collins
> |
> KWM2
> |
> ?
> |
> |
> K6VWE
> |
> Stan
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> MI
> |
> K3
> |
> 650
> |
> ?
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> |
> N0MPM
> |
> Mike
> |
> IA
> |
> K3S
> |
> 10514
> |
> ?
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> |
> K6WDE
> |
> Dave
> |
> CA
> |
> KX3
> |
> 4599
> |
> ?
> |
> |
> N6ZT
> |
> Scott
> |
> CA
> |
> Kenwood
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> 990
> |
> ?
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 11:18:15 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 190, Issue 16
> Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
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>
>> On 2/21/2020 9:17 AM, Andreas Wachter via Elecraft wrote:
>> Also, the RFI is 24x7 so if it were caused by my neighbors? plasma TVs, there shouldn?t be any RFI at, say, 3AM in the morning.
>
> Andreas,
>
> For at least ten years, almost anything we buy that plugs into the wall
> has an SMPS that generates noise as long as it's connected. This
> includes everything from computers to TVs to home entertainment systems
> to battery chargers to the inverters for solar systems. My closest
> neighbors are at distances about like yours, and I get noise from them.
> Some of it cycles on and off, some is constant. There's power line
> noise, which can be constant or not.
>
> Like the technically illiterate folks who live near me who believe that
> cell towers cause cancer and who campaign against the addition of cell
> sites that can provide us service, you've made up your mind without
> knowledge of the underlying science.
>
> I've sent you a link to a tutorial that provide detailed advice about
> figuring out what kind of noise source(s) you have, how to track them
> down, and how to kill them. I repeat my advice to study it.
>
> http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 11:20:16 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
> Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
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>
>> On 2/21/2020 9:41 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>> Kitchen is right next door to the shack, and the pot is on all day.
>
> What matters is distance to antennas, not the shack. The nature of
> electrical wiring in your home also matters, because it's that wiring
> that radiates any noise produced.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:30:27 -0700
> From: "Dave New, N8SBE" <[hidden email]>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
> Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:32:24 -0700
> From: "Dave New, N8SBE" <[hidden email]>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
> Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> (Sorry about the previous blank message -- this is now the ONLY
> mailgroup I'm subscribed to that refuses HTML-formatted mail, which is
> the default setting for my mail client).
>
> It's amazing the things that can cause issues. From my experience:
>
>
> 1) An automatic porch light sensor, the kind that screws in the light
> socket and then you screw the porch light bulb into it. It was putting
> out broadband hash across several bands, but only at night, when the
> light was on.
>
>
> 2) A Mr. Coffee coffee maker that had a little LED clock in the base, so
> you could set it to auto-brew in the morning. That little clock also
> put out broadband hash, whose tone tended to vary somewhat depending on
> what was currently on the display. I had to find it using a portable
> radio and finding that the kitchen outlets were 'singing' with the
> signal.
>
>
> 3) A doorbell transformer, that was mounted on the side of a light
> junction box in the basement, located above a false ceiling panel. The
> really annoying aspect was that the transformer didn't seem to be on any
> branch circuit. I finally discovered that the previous home owner had
> jumpered a couple of branch circuits in the breaker panel (?!), so
> turning off only one of the breakers didn't kill power to some outlets.
> This circuit was shared with the kitchen dishwasher, etc. outlets, and
> apparently they had had breaker trips from the overloaded circuit, so
> they just jumpered another breaker in parallel. After running
> additional circuits to put the dishwasher and garbage disposal, etc. on
> separate circuits (and removing the offending jumpers in the breaker
> box), I was finally able to isolate the doorbell transformer, which was
> subsequently replaced.
>
>
> It's been a while since I've done a 'whole house down' survey, and my
> noise floor has crept up again. In particular, I have a broadband noise
> that is 20 over S9 that wipes out the top half of 80 meters and all of
> 60 meters. I suspect it is my neighbor's U-Verse system twisted copper
> pair uplink which operates on those frequencies.
>
>
>
>
> "The second band is used in upstream and start at 3.75 MHz and end at
> 5.2 MHz " -- https://adslm.dohrenburg.net/uverse/
>
>
> It's a never-ending challenge...
>
>
> Good luck, and 73,
>
>
> -- Dave, N8SBE
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 15:02:21 -0800
> From: George P Linehan III <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX-2 For Sale $1200 AS NEW
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Unused - Internal tuner, internal Battery with Charger, all cables, carrying bag, hat. Will pay shipping to lower 48.
> 73, PAUL WA6YCA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:08:59 +0000
> From: "hawley, charles j jr" <[hidden email]>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>, W8JH
> <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> This is the newest one that brews a carafe of 10 cups or does a pod into your mug. I too have had others without any noise, but this new one puts a huge sine wave of noise on the panadapter. I have put ferrite on the line cord which don't affect it. I just turn the thing off after brewing...or wait about 5 minutes and the noise goes away.
>
> Jack BMW Motorcycles
> Chuck KE9UW
> [hidden email]
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Lyn Norstad <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> ?I've had several of the inexpensive Keurig Pod type, and have never had an issue on any band.
>>
>> Kitchen is right next door to the shack, and the pot is on all day.
>>
>> Lyn
>> W0LEN
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of hawley, charles j jr
>> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 2:04 PM
>> To: W8JH
>> Cc: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
>>
>> I still love the coffee maker and would buy it again. I just turn it off after the pot or pod is brewed.
>>
>> Chuck Jack Hawley
>> KE9UW
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone, cjack
>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2020, at 12:12 PM, W8JH <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?ke9uw wrote
>>>> We bought a new Keurig coffee maker which does a pot or also the pods. It
>>>> puts a huge noise out to the ham frequencies. Have to turn it off to get
>>>> on 80M
>>>
>>> That is a serious conflict!
>>>
>>> 80m morning greyline without caffeine, people cannot live this way!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Joe, W8JH
>>>
>>> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.
>>> --
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 15:35:33 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues
> Message-ID:
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>> On 2/21/2020 3:08 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>> I have put ferrite on the line cord which don't affect it.
>
> Which ferrite? There are dozens of different types. Did you just clamp
> one on, or did you wind multiple turns through it as shown in these links?
> http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf and
> http://k9yc.com/KillingRXNoiseVisalia.pdf
>
> If you don't use the "right" ferrite and if you don't wind the "right"
> number of turns for the band(s) where you hear the noise, the ferrite
> WON'T do anything.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 19:09:10 -0600
> From: John Harper <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft list <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX-2 For Sale $1200 AS NEW
> Message-ID:
> <CAPHmH=MDer6ugJDwmXMtzpX8asDxmd2rFkP=[hidden email]>
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>
> I thought your price was excessive until I read that you're including the
> hat.
>
> John AE5X
> https://ae5x.blogspot.com
>
>> Unused - Internal tuner, internal Battery with Charger, all cables, carrying bag, hat. Will pay shipping to lower 48.
>> 73, PAUL WA6YCA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 19:19:45 -0600
> From: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>
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> What's the MODEL number??73,Gary K9GS
> -------- Original message --------From: "hawley, charles j jr" <[hidden email]> Date: 2/21/20 5:08 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email], W8JH <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues This is the newest one that brews a carafe of 10 cups or does a pod into your mug. I too have had others without any noise, but this new one puts a huge sine wave of noise on the panadapter. I have put ferrite on the line cord which don't affect it. I just turn the thing off after brewing...or wait about 5 minutes and the noise goes away.? Jack BMW MotorcyclesChuck [hidden email] from my iPad> On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Lyn Norstad <[hidden email]> wrote:> > ?I've had several of the inexpensive Keurig Pod type, and have never had an issue on any band.> > Kitchen is right next door to the shack, and the pot is on all day.> > Lyn> W0LEN> > > -----Original Message-----> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-bounc

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> @mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of hawley, charles j jr> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 2:04 PM> To: W8JH> Cc: [hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues> > I still love the coffee maker and would buy it again. I just turn it off after the pot or pod is brewed.> > Chuck Jack Hawley > KE9UW> > Sent from my iPhone, cjack > >> On Feb 20, 2020, at 12:12 PM, W8JH <[hidden email]> wrote:>> >> ?ke9uw wrote>>> We bought a new Keurig coffee maker which does a pot or also the pods. It>>> puts a huge noise out to the ham frequencies. Have to turn it off to get>>> on 80M>> >> That is a serious conflict!>> >> 80m morning greyline without caffeine, people cannot live this way!!>> >> >> >> >> ----->> 73,>> >> Joe, W8JH>> >> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and? KX3 happy user.>> -->> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/>> ______________________________________________________________>> Elecraft mailing list>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>> He
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> That's about what I paid for mine, without the hat. Got my hat with a P3 and a tour. A $900 hat instead of a $1200 hat. Bargain.
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>> I thought your price was excessive until I read that you're including the
>> hat.
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>>> Unused - Internal tuner, internal Battery with Charger, all cables, carrying bag, hat. Will pay shipping to lower 48.
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> I don't know the mx. I get it though, it's worked on switching supplies and I wind multiple turns. They did a great job on a treadmill. A different mix may be better because it seems like a lower frequency.
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>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> ?On 2/21/2020 3:08 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>>> I have put ferrite on the line cord which don't affect it.
>>
>> Which ferrite? There are dozens of different types. Did you just clamp one on, or did you wind multiple turns through it as shown in these links?
>> http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf and
>> http://k9yc.com/KillingRXNoiseVisalia.pdf
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>> If you don't use the "right" ferrite and if you don't wind the "right" number of turns for the band(s) where you hear the noise, the ferrite WON'T do anything.
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>> 73, Jim K9YC
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> From: "hawley, charles j jr" <[hidden email]>
> To: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>
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> Keurig Pro Duo 5200 (they leak stuff out when you turn them upside down...)
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> Jack BMW Motorcycles
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>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 7:20 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> ?What's the MODEL number??73,Gary K9GS
>> -------- Original message --------From: "hawley, charles j jr" <[hidden email]> Date: 2/21/20 5:08 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email], W8JH <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues This is the newest one that brews a carafe of 10 cups or does a pod into your mug. I too have had others without any noise, but this new one puts a huge sine wave of noise on the panadapter. I have put ferrite on the line cord which don't affect it. I just turn the thing off after brewing...or wait about 5 minutes and the noise goes away. Jack BMW MotorcyclesChuck [hidden email] from my iPad> On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Lyn Norstad <[hidden email]> wrote:> > ?I've had several of the inexpensive Keurig Pod type, and have never had an issue on any band.> > Kitchen is right next door to the shack, and the pot is on all day.> > Lyn> W0LEN> > > -----Original Message-----> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-boun

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> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of hawley, charles j jr> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 2:04 PM> To: W8JH> Cc: [hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues> > I still love the coffee maker and would buy it again. I just turn it off after the pot or pod is brewed.> > Chuck Jack Hawley > KE9UW> > Sent from my iPhone, cjack > >> On Feb 20, 2020, at 12:12 PM, W8JH <[hidden email]> wrote:>> >> ?ke9uw wrote>>> We bought a new Keurig coffee maker which does a pot or also the pods. It>>> puts a huge noise out to the ham frequencies. Have to turn it off to get>>> on 80M>> >> That is a serious conflict!>> >> 80m morning greyline without caffeine, people cannot live this way!!>> >> >> >> >> ----->> 73,>> >> Joe, W8JH>> >> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.>> -->> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/>> ______________________________________________________________>> Elecraft mailing list>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>>
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> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 20:05:51 -0600
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
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> Seems like a good reason not to buy one. Which reminds me, do they have a Part 15 label attached? Not that they actually meet Part 15 requirements.
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>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:02 PM, hawley, charles j jr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> ?Keurig Pro Duo 5200 (they leak stuff out when you turn them upside down...)
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>> Jack BMW Motorcycles
>> Chuck KE9UW
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 7:20 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>> ?What's the MODEL number??73,Gary K9GS
>>> -------- Original message --------From: "hawley, charles j jr" <[hidden email]> Date: 2/21/20 5:08 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email], W8JH <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues This is the newest one that brews a carafe of 10 cups or does a pod into your mug. I too have had others without any noise, but this new one puts a huge sine wave of noise on the panadapter. I have put ferrite on the line cord which don't affect it. I just turn the thing off after brewing...or wait about 5 minutes and the noise goes away. Jack BMW MotorcyclesChuck [hidden email] from my iPad> On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Lyn Norstad <[hidden email]> wrote:> > ?I've had several of the inexpensive Keurig Pod type, and have never had an issue on any band.> > Kitchen is right next door to the shack, and the pot is on all day.> > Lyn> W0LEN> > > -----Original Message-----> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-bou

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> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of hawley, charles j jr> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 2:04 PM> To: W8JH> Cc: [hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues> > I still love the coffee maker and would buy it again. I just turn it off after the pot or pod is brewed.> > Chuck Jack Hawley > KE9UW> > Sent from my iPhone, cjack > >> On Feb 20, 2020, at 12:12 PM, W8JH <[hidden email]> wrote:>> >> ?ke9uw wrote>>> We bought a new Keurig coffee maker which does a pot or also the pods. It>>> puts a huge noise out to the ham frequencies. Have to turn it off to get>>> on 80M>> >> That is a serious conflict!>> >> 80m morning greyline without caffeine, people cannot live this way!!>> >> >> >> >> ----->> 73,>> >> Joe, W8JH>> >> K3s, KPA 500, KAT 500 and KX3 happy user.>> -->> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/>> ______________________________________________________________>> Elecraft mailing list>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>>

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> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 20:12:49 -0600
> From: "Lyn Norstad" <[hidden email]>
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> Well, Jim -
>
> If you're going to quote someone, bear in mind that editing what they said
> out of context might change the meaning of what they said (you've probably
> heard of the C.O.M.A. process used in Bible study).
>
> I said two things:
>
> 1) I've had several of the inexpensive Keurig Pod type, and have never had
> an issue on any band.
>
> and ...
>
> 2) Kitchen is right next door to the shack, and the pot is on all day.
>
> #1 is a response to the RFI issue, but ...
>
> #2 is an indicator that I need to have coffee nearby both for myself and for
> others who may be visiting my shack. Stop over the next time you're in
> Chicago.
>
> 73
> Lyn, W0LEN
>
> PS - FWIW, the nearest point of the antenna is probably 50 feet from the
> coffee pot. In Chicagoland, all wiring must be in conduits, and both the
> kitchen and the shack are on their own circuits. In fact, the only 'home
> grown' RFI I am aware of is 1 out of 4 identical HP 24" LED monitors that
> puts out a steady carrier on 30 meters.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>> On 2/21/2020 9:41 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>> Kitchen is right next door to the shack, and the pot is on all day.
>
> What matters is distance to antennas, not the shack. The nature of
> electrical wiring in your home also matters, because it's that wiring
> that radiates any noise produced.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 19:03:14 -0800
> From: Andy Moorwood <[hidden email]>
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> Can we end this thread now please ?
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>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> ?What's the MODEL number??73,Gary K9GS
>> -------- Original message --------From: "hawley, charles j jr" <[hidden email]> Date: 2/21/20 5:08 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email], W8JH <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI issues This is the newest one that brews a carafe of 10 cups or does a pod into your mug. I too have had others without any noise, but this new one puts a huge sine wave of noise on the panadapter. I have put ferrite on the line cord which don't affect it. I just turn the thing off after brewing...or wait about 5 minutes and the noise goes away. Jack BMW MotorcyclesChuck [hidden email] from my iPad> On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Lyn Norstad <[hidden email]> wrote:> > ?I've had several of the inexpensive Keurig Pod type, and have never had an issue on any band.> > Kitchen is right next door to the shack, and the pot is on all day.> > Lyn> W0LEN> > > -----Original Message-----> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-boun

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