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Re: 1.8 kHz SSB Filter

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
I definitely agree regarding having a 1.8 kHz filter for SSB is a
positive attribute.   In fact both of my radios have 1.8 kHz filters.  
And by reducing the DSP BW to 1.8 kHz and shifting the PBT, one would be
amazed at how well a SSB signal really sounds. Certainly worth the
investment in my experience.

73

Bob, K4TAX


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> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 11:57:32 -0500
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> To: Chuck Chandler<[hidden email]>
> Cc:[hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Planning the next filters
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> Get the 1.8 if you work ssb.  Experiment with shifting the pass band for
> maximum clarity.  Youll be amazed just how narrow it can get and still be
> understandable.
>
> On Mar 8, 2018 11:24 AM, "Chuck Chandler"<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> Right now I have the stock SSB and a 400 Hz filter in both main and sub
>> rcvrs.  I would like to add some a few at a time.  My first priority is to
>> add a couple to the main receiver, since it is the biggest chore to get
>> to.
>>
>> I plan on a 250 Hz CW filter, but am going back and forth between the 2.1
>> and 1.8 kHz filters.  I know that narrowing the DSP to 1.8 gives a really
>> difficult to understand voice signal, while the 2.1 allows in more adjacent
>> signals.  However, the roofing filters may not behave in the same manner.
>> For example, the 1.8 could be set to turn on at 2.1 to take advantage of
>> skirt shape.
>>
>> I primarily DX, and operate in some contests as well.  I know SSB contests
>> really need a narrow SSB filter.
>>
>> Any suggestions on the matter from those who have gone this route before?
>>
>> 73 de Chuck, WS1L

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Re: 1.8 kHz SSB Filter

Bill K9YEQ
Yes!

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:22 PM
To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 1.8 kHz SSB Filter

I definitely agree regarding having a 1.8 kHz filter for SSB is a positive attribute.   In fact both of my radios have 1.8 kHz filters. And by reducing the DSP BW to 1.8 kHz and shifting the PBT, one would be amazed at how well a SSB signal really sounds. Certainly worth the investment in my experience.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 3/8/2018 4:38 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 11:57:32 -0500
> From: Craig Buck<[hidden email]>
> To: Chuck Chandler<[hidden email]> Cc:[hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Planning the next filters
> Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Get the 1.8 if you work ssb.  Experiment with shifting the pass band
> for maximum clarity.  Youll be amazed just how narrow it can get and
> still be understandable.
>
> On Mar 8, 2018 11:24 AM, "Chuck Chandler"<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> Right now I have the stock SSB and a 400 Hz filter in both main and
>> sub rcvrs.  I would like to add some a few at a time.  My first
>> priority is to add a couple to the main receiver, since it is the
>> biggest chore to get to.
>>
>> I plan on a 250 Hz CW filter, but am going back and forth between the
>> 2.1 and 1.8 kHz filters.  I know that narrowing the DSP to 1.8 gives
>> a really difficult to understand voice signal, while the 2.1 allows
>> in more adjacent signals.  However, the roofing filters may not behave in the same manner.
>> For example, the 1.8 could be set to turn on at 2.1 to take advantage
>> of skirt shape.
>>
>> I primarily DX, and operate in some contests as well.  I know SSB
>> contests really need a narrow SSB filter.
>>
>> Any suggestions on the matter from those who have gone this route before?
>>
>> 73 de Chuck, WS1L

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Re: 1.8 kHz SSB Filter

Kjeld Holm
Agree
And just want to tell you that I am using Filter width=1500 and Filter=750.
Vy 73 de OZ1CCM

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Johnson
Sent: 9. marts 2018 02:36
To: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 1.8 kHz SSB Filter

Yes!

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:22 PM
To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 1.8 kHz SSB Filter

I definitely agree regarding having a 1.8 kHz filter for SSB is a positive attribute.   In fact both of my radios have 1.8 kHz filters. And by reducing the DSP BW to 1.8 kHz and shifting the PBT, one would be amazed at how well a SSB signal really sounds. Certainly worth the investment in my experience.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 3/8/2018 4:38 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 11:57:32 -0500
> From: Craig Buck<[hidden email]>
> To: Chuck Chandler<[hidden email]> Cc:[hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Planning the next filters
> Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Get the 1.8 if you work ssb.  Experiment with shifting the pass band
> for maximum clarity.  Youll be amazed just how narrow it can get and
> still be understandable.
>
> On Mar 8, 2018 11:24 AM, "Chuck Chandler"<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> Right now I have the stock SSB and a 400 Hz filter in both main and
>> sub rcvrs.  I would like to add some a few at a time.  My first
>> priority is to add a couple to the main receiver, since it is the
>> biggest chore to get to.
>>
>> I plan on a 250 Hz CW filter, but am going back and forth between the
>> 2.1 and 1.8 kHz filters.  I know that narrowing the DSP to 1.8 gives
>> a really difficult to understand voice signal, while the 2.1 allows
>> in more adjacent signals.  However, the roofing filters may not behave in the same manner.
>> For example, the 1.8 could be set to turn on at 2.1 to take advantage
>> of skirt shape.
>>
>> I primarily DX, and operate in some contests as well.  I know SSB
>> contests really need a narrow SSB filter.
>>
>> Any suggestions on the matter from those who have gone this route before?
>>
>> 73 de Chuck, WS1L

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Re: 1.8 kHz SSB Filter

Jim Low man

Maybe I missed it, but there once was a link on the Elecraft website with filter recommendations.

73 de Jim-AD6CW

> On Mar 9, 2018, at 4:11 AM, Kjeld Holm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Agree
> And just want to tell you that I am using Filter width=1500 and Filter=750.
> Vy 73 de OZ1CCM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: 9. marts 2018 02:36
> To: Elecraft List
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 1.8 kHz SSB Filter
>
> Yes!
>
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
> Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:22 PM
> To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 1.8 kHz SSB Filter
>
> I definitely agree regarding having a 1.8 kHz filter for SSB is a positive attribute.   In fact both of my radios have 1.8 kHz filters. And by reducing the DSP BW to 1.8 kHz and shifting the PBT, one would be amazed at how well a SSB signal really sounds. Certainly worth the investment in my experience.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>> On 3/8/2018 4:38 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 11:57:32 -0500
>> From: Craig Buck<[hidden email]>
>> To: Chuck Chandler<[hidden email]> Cc:[hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Planning the next filters
>> Message-ID:
>>    <[hidden email]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> Get the 1.8 if you work ssb.  Experiment with shifting the pass band
>> for maximum clarity.  Youll be amazed just how narrow it can get and
>> still be understandable.
>>
>>> On Mar 8, 2018 11:24 AM, "Chuck Chandler"<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Right now I have the stock SSB and a 400 Hz filter in both main and
>>> sub rcvrs.  I would like to add some a few at a time.  My first
>>> priority is to add a couple to the main receiver, since it is the
>>> biggest chore to get to.
>>>
>>> I plan on a 250 Hz CW filter, but am going back and forth between the
>>> 2.1 and 1.8 kHz filters.  I know that narrowing the DSP to 1.8 gives
>>> a really difficult to understand voice signal, while the 2.1 allows
>>> in more adjacent signals.  However, the roofing filters may not behave in the same manner.
>>> For example, the 1.8 could be set to turn on at 2.1 to take advantage
>>> of skirt shape.
>>>
>>> I primarily DX, and operate in some contests as well.  I know SSB
>>> contests really need a narrow SSB filter.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on the matter from those who have gone this route before?
>>>
>>> 73 de Chuck, WS1L
>
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Re: 1.8 kHz SSB Filter

ke9uw
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/Roofing_Filters.htm

Chuck KE9UW
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On Mar 9, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Jim Low man <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:


Maybe I missed it, but there once was a link on the Elecraft website with filter recommendations.

73 de Jim-AD6CW

On Mar 9, 2018, at 4:11 AM, Kjeld Holm <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Agree
And just want to tell you that I am using Filter width=1500 and Filter=750.
Vy 73 de OZ1CCM

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Johnson
Sent: 9. marts 2018 02:36
To: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 1.8 kHz SSB Filter

Yes!

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:22 PM
To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 1.8 kHz SSB Filter

I definitely agree regarding having a 1.8 kHz filter for SSB is a positive attribute.   In fact both of my radios have 1.8 kHz filters. And by reducing the DSP BW to 1.8 kHz and shifting the PBT, one would be amazed at how well a SSB signal really sounds. Certainly worth the investment in my experience.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 3/8/2018 4:38 PM, [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> wrote:
Message: 1
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 11:57:32 -0500
From: Craig Buck<[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
To: Chuck Chandler<[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Cc:[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Planning the next filters
Message-ID:
  <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Get the 1.8 if you work ssb.  Experiment with shifting the pass band
for maximum clarity.  Youll be amazed just how narrow it can get and
still be understandable.

On Mar 8, 2018 11:24 AM, "Chuck Chandler"<[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>  wrote:

Right now I have the stock SSB and a 400 Hz filter in both main and
sub rcvrs.  I would like to add some a few at a time.  My first
priority is to add a couple to the main receiver, since it is the
biggest chore to get to.

I plan on a 250 Hz CW filter, but am going back and forth between the
2.1 and 1.8 kHz filters.  I know that narrowing the DSP to 1.8 gives
a really difficult to understand voice signal, while the 2.1 allows
in more adjacent signals.  However, the roofing filters may not behave in the same manner.
For example, the 1.8 could be set to turn on at 2.1 to take advantage
of skirt shape.

I primarily DX, and operate in some contests as well.  I know SSB
contests really need a narrow SSB filter.

Any suggestions on the matter from those who have gone this route before?

73 de Chuck, WS1L

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