Re: CW in Emergencies?]

[Jim Wiley-2]

OK Mike, I'll bite.  Since the reference was to 75 meter operation, just
how did these guys get their licenses then?  Are you suggesting fraud in
the examination process?  That is a very serious charge, and you need to
be able to prove it.   Yes, there have been some irregularities, and as
far as I know, each and every one has been dealt with by Riley and
crew.   Licenses have been denied or cancelled, usually as the result of
failure to respond to a directive that the applicant appear for
retesting. From what Riley says,  exam fraud is not at all common, he
rarely encounters more than 2 or 3 instances per year, more often  
none.  There have been a couple of instances where large groups were
involved, but they have been resolved.  


Are you aware of something that isn't known elsewhere?  I suggest that
if you are, you let Riley Hollingsworth know immediately.  His email is:
[hidden email].  


I happen to run a pretty good size VEC operation (Anchorage ARC VEC,
Inc.), and I can assure you that every VEC organization takes their job
very seriously.   Interestingly enough,  in those very rare cases where
some funny business has taken place, as far as I can determine it has
always been the people in charge of the particular VEC themselves who
have brought the problem to the attention of the FCC.  They are as
interested in getting rid of "bad apples" as anyone.


Since this subject is "off topic" for this list, perhaps after one last
exchange here,  it would be better if we continued this thread off the
reflector.


- Jim, KL7CC


Mike Morrow wrote:

This is definitely **not** a certainty, since the VEC process took over
the operator licensng exam process.

Mike  /  KK5F




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[hank k8dd-2]

Geez, thin line between sarcasm and reality, as I read it, although I've
wondered about that sometimes listening to 75M SSB on my K2 (see - it's
on a topic about K2's!).
This discussion is going on at the QMN/NREN reflector much more objectively!

I think we all need to lighten up and go along with the changes because
the only thing that never changes is change its self.  And with some
objectivity we can make it better.

73    Hank    K8DD

And another K2 comment:
This coming November look for FP/K8DD  FP/AC8W and others.
We will have about 4 or 5 K2/100's and a collection of amps and beams
and wires from Miquelon for CQ WW CW.
PSK-31 and RTTY before and after the contest.


Jim Wiley wrote:

>
>
> OK Mike, I'll bite.  Since the reference was to 75 meter operation,
> just how did these guys get their licenses then?  Are you suggesting
> fraud in the examination process?  That is a very serious charge, and
> you need to be able to prove it.  
>
>
> Mike Morrow wrote:
> This is definitely **not** a certainty, since the VEC process took
> over the operator licensng exam process.
>
> Mike  /  KK5F
>
>
>
>
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