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Bill K9YEQ

Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

Changed topic!!!!
I have not had surgery but lots of rehab. I am planning on using a Macro on the K-POD to switch and use two different keys for right and left hand. Has anyone written a macro to do this? If not I will do my own.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Krozel
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 1:53 PM
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW sending

I had rotator cuff and bicep surgery and did learn cw with my left hand. While not as proficient as my right it did get me by. I used the same “assignments” as the right hand has.
Worked out well.
de KG9H

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:41 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm a Lefty. When I got my 1st electronic keyer & key I learned with
> the key set for a Righty. That was over 40 yr.s ago. It is very handy.
> When I share CW duties in contests or Field Day all that's needed is
> to move the key to the left or right side of the operating position.
> No re-wiring or set up. I receive better than I send but I can send
> clean CW at 30+ WPM.
>
> In life we Lefties have to overcome lots of things designed for
> Righties! You just adapt.
>
> K9IL
>
>
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Joe K2UF

Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

I just put a mini DPDT switch on the base of my Bencher paddle. Now I can
switch between left/right hand keying easy peasy nice and easy.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:25 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for
right and left?

Changed topic!!!!
I have not had surgery but lots of rehab. I am planning on using a Macro on
the K-POD to switch and use two different keys for right and left hand. Has
anyone written a macro to do this? If not I will do my own.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On
Behalf Of Frank Krozel
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 1:53 PM
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW sending

I had rotator cuff and bicep surgery and did learn cw with my left hand.
While not as proficient as my right it did get me by. I used the same
"assignments" as the right hand has.
Worked out well.
de KG9H

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:41 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm a Lefty. When I got my 1st electronic keyer & key I learned with

> the key set for a Righty. That was over 40 yr.s ago. It is very handy.
> When I share CW duties in contests or Field Day all that's needed is
> to move the key to the left or right side of the operating position.
> No re-wiring or set up. I receive better than I send but I can send
> clean CW at 30+ WPM.
>
> In life we Lefties have to overcome lots of things designed for
> Righties! You just adapt.
>
> K9IL
>
>
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David Bunte

Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

In reply to this post by Bill K9YEQ

Bill -

I have never tried t send with my non-dominant hand, but I do have two
paddles. They are plugged into my DIGI KEYER II through a stereo 'Y' cable.
I have not tried this, but it seems to me that you could do that and wire
the paddles so that one was 'right handed' and the other was 'left handed'.
If that won't work, I apologize, but I think it will, and then all you need
to do when switching hands is to just start sending with the other hand...
no macros, switches, or changing the position of the paddle on the desk.

Dave - K9FN

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM, Bill Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Changed topic!!!!
> I have not had surgery but lots of rehab. I am planning on using a Macro
> on the K-POD to switch and use two different keys for right and left hand.
> Has anyone written a macro to do this? If not I will do my own.
>
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> On Behalf Of Frank Krozel
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 1:53 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW sending
>
> I had rotator cuff and bicep surgery and did learn cw with my left hand.
> While not as proficient as my right it did get me by. I used the same
> “assignments” as the right hand has.
> Worked out well.
> de KG9H
>
>
> > On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:41 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm a Lefty. When I got my 1st electronic keyer & key I learned
> with
> > the key set for a Righty. That was over 40 yr.s ago. It is very handy.
> > When I share CW duties in contests or Field Day all that's needed is
> > to move the key to the left or right side of the operating position.
> > No re-wiring or set up. I receive better than I send but I can send
> > clean CW at 30+ WPM.
> >
> > In life we Lefties have to overcome lots of things designed for
> > Righties! You just adapt.
> >
> > K9IL
> >
> >
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Don Wilhelm

Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

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Joe,

That works, but for those who do not want to wire the DPDT switch, there
is a menu setting to do the same thing.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/19/2018 6:35 PM, Joe K2UF wrote:
> I just put a mini DPDT switch on the base of my Bencher paddle. Now I can
> switch between left/right hand keying easy peasy nice and easy.
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pa0pje

Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

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I glued a 6.3 mm jack to the base of my Hex-Key paddle and a common
cathode double Schottky diode, that can be found in nearly any old PC
power supply, to create a straight-key input for the K2 (doesn't work
for other rigs...) and while gluing I made a
small DPDT switch to reverse the paddles for left hand operation...
I know that it can be set from the menu but the switch is much easier.

It's surprising how many hams didn't know this reverse thing. I just
said "start sending with your left hand and do not even try to think
which side to hit for dots and dashes, just send! One of them was left
handed and learned to send with a right hand wired paddle. I let him
send with his right hand and off he went... Yes: Practice!

73,
Peter

Op 2018-03-19 23:52 schreef David Bunte:

> Bill -
>
> I have never tried t send with my non-dominant hand, but I do have two
> paddles. They are plugged into my DIGI KEYER II through a stereo 'Y' cable.
> I have not tried this, but it seems to me that you could do that and wire
> the paddles so that one was 'right handed' and the other was 'left handed'.
> If that won't work, I apologize, but I think it will, and then all you need
> to do when switching hands is to just start sending with the other hand...
> no macros, switches, or changing the position of the paddle on the desk.
>
> Dave - K9FN
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM, Bill Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Changed topic!!!!
>> I have not had surgery but lots of rehab. I am planning on using a Macro
>> on the K-POD to switch and use two different keys for right and left hand.
>> Has anyone written a macro to do this? If not I will do my own.
>>
>> 73,
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>> On Behalf Of Frank Krozel
>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 1:53 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Cc: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW sending
>>
>> I had rotator cuff and bicep surgery and did learn cw with my left hand.
>> While not as proficient as my right it did get me by. I used the same
>> “assignments” as the right hand has.
>> Worked out well.
>> de KG9H
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:41 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a Lefty. When I got my 1st electronic keyer & key I learned
>> with
>>> the key set for a Righty. That was over 40 yr.s ago. It is very handy.
>>> When I share CW duties in contests or Field Day all that's needed is
>>> to move the key to the left or right side of the operating position.
>>> No re-wiring or set up. I receive better than I send but I can send
>>> clean CW at 30+ WPM.
>>>
>>> In life we Lefties have to overcome lots of things designed for
>>> Righties! You just adapt.
>>>
>>> K9IL
>>>
>>>
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Bill K9YEQ

Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

In reply to this post by David Bunte

Good suggestion, just change the wires! Too simple! Thanks for suggestion.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

From: David Bunte <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:52 PM
To: Bill Johnson <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

Bill -

I have never tried t send with my non-dominant hand, but I do have two paddles. They are plugged into my DIGI KEYER II through a stereo 'Y' cable. I have not tried this, but it seems to me that you could do that and wire the paddles so that one was 'right handed' and the other was 'left handed'. If that won't work, I apologize, but I think it will, and then all you need to do when switching hands is to just start sending with the other hand... no macros, switches, or changing the position of the paddle on the desk.

Dave - K9FN

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM, Bill Johnson <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
Changed topic!!!!
I have not had surgery but lots of rehab. I am planning on using a Macro on the K-POD to switch and use two different keys for right and left hand. Has anyone written a macro to do this? If not I will do my own.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> On Behalf Of Frank Krozel
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 1:53 PM
To: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW sending

I had rotator cuff and bicep surgery and did learn cw with my left hand. While not as proficient as my right it did get me by. I used the same “assignments” as the right hand has.
Worked out well.
de KG9H

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:41 PM, [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm a Lefty. When I got my 1st electronic keyer & key I learned with
> the key set for a Righty. That was over 40 yr.s ago. It is very handy.
> When I share CW duties in contests or Field Day all that's needed is
> to move the key to the left or right side of the operating position.
> No re-wiring or set up. I receive better than I send but I can send
> clean CW at 30+ WPM.
>
> In life we Lefties have to overcome lots of things designed for
> Righties! You just adapt.
>
> K9IL
>
>
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Bill K9YEQ

Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

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Great suggestion. Have found that putting hands together that mine mirror in reverse without issue, so I need to use the keys differently. The macro idea without rewiring is still on my drawing table. I love both keys, an N3Zn and Begali adventure are what I am using. I have tried to see what works best. I will use the KX3 and KX2 Elecraft keys for those rigs. I want to play on the K3S with two keys for one side of the desk and one for the other, yet to be determined. I could wire in a cable male to female from the keys and reverse to allow changing which is on either side.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:52 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

I glued a 6.3 mm jack to the base of my Hex-Key paddle and a common cathode double Schottky diode, that can be found in nearly any old PC power supply, to create a straight-key input for the K2 (doesn't work for other rigs...) and while gluing I made a small DPDT switch to reverse the paddles for left hand operation...
I know that it can be set from the menu but the switch is much easier.

It's surprising how many hams didn't know this reverse thing. I just said "start sending with your left hand and do not even try to think which side to hit for dots and dashes, just send! One of them was left handed and learned to send with a right hand wired paddle. I let him send with his right hand and off he went... Yes: Practice!

73,
Peter

Op 2018-03-19 23:52 schreef David Bunte:

Bill K9YEQ

Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm

Exactly the reason for my macro request. No switch, just commands.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:42 PM
To: Joe K2UF <[hidden email]>; 'Bill Johnson' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

Joe,

That works, but for those who do not want to wire the DPDT switch, there is a menu setting to do the same thing.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/19/2018 6:35 PM, Joe K2UF wrote:
> I just put a mini DPDT switch on the base of my Bencher paddle. Now I
> can switch between left/right hand keying easy peasy nice and easy.
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Robert E. Gross

Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

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I successfully use two identical Kent iambic paddles, wired in parallel - one on each side of the operating desk.

The left one is wired backwards.

I can use either hand to key them with ease.

Very simple and clean.

I am considering building a switch box to connect the set to multiple rigs.

73,
KE4EM
Bob

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ke9uw

Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

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I have a short wire with a stereo jack on it’s end on my key, I could have two of them in parallel each wired differently and plug into the one I wanted, but I like the switch idea best

Chuck Jack
KE9UW

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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 5:52 PM, David Bunte <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Bill -
>
> I have never tried t send with my non-dominant hand, but I do have two
> paddles. They are plugged into my DIGI KEYER II through a stereo 'Y' cable.
> I have not tried this, but it seems to me that you could do that and wire
> the paddles so that one was 'right handed' and the other was 'left handed'.
> If that won't work, I apologize, but I think it will, and then all you need
> to do when switching hands is to just start sending with the other hand...
> no macros, switches, or changing the position of the paddle on the desk.
>
> Dave - K9FN
>
>
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM, Bill Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Changed topic!!!!
>> I have not had surgery but lots of rehab. I am planning on using a Macro
>> on the K-POD to switch and use two different keys for right and left hand.
>> Has anyone written a macro to do this? If not I will do my own.
>>
>> 73,
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>> On Behalf Of Frank Krozel
>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 1:53 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Cc: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW sending
>>
>> I had rotator cuff and bicep surgery and did learn cw with my left hand.
>> While not as proficient as my right it did get me by. I used the same
>> “assignments” as the right hand has.
>> Worked out well.
>> de KG9H
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:41 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a Lefty. When I got my 1st electronic keyer & key I learned
>> with
>>> the key set for a Righty. That was over 40 yr.s ago. It is very handy.
>>> When I share CW duties in contests or Field Day all that's needed is
>>> to move the key to the left or right side of the operating position.
>>> No re-wiring or set up. I receive better than I send but I can send
>>> clean CW at 30+ WPM.
>>>
>>> In life we Lefties have to overcome lots of things designed for
>>> Righties! You just adapt.
>>>
>>> K9IL
>>>
>>>
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Re: CW sending Using two keys Macro to switch mode for right and left?

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Thought about that, I am using the K44 keyer however. I would guess there is a swap in it’s software as well though.

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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Joe,
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> That works, but for those who do not want to wire the DPDT switch, there is a menu setting to do the same thing.
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> 73,
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>> On 3/19/2018 6:35 PM, Joe K2UF wrote:
>> I just put a mini DPDT switch on the base of my Bencher paddle. Now I can
>> switch between left/right hand keying easy peasy nice and easy.
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