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 Check for loose RF connectors. For dome reason, you have a lot of RF in the shack. You probably do not need any ferrite filtering.

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>   1. Re: K3S goes Keydown (Dave Cole)
>   2. Re: K3S goes Keydown (Robie Elms)
>   3. ATU Matching Range (K9MA)
>   4. Re: K3S goes Keydown ([hidden email])
>   5. Re: K3S goes Keydown (Ian White)
>   6. MARS on KX3 (Aaron K5ATG)
>   7. Re: KX2 display on start-up (Kevin)
>   8. Re: MARS on KX3 (kevino z)
>   9. Re: MARS on KX3 (Walter Underwood)
>  10. Re: MARS on KX3 (Matt Zilmer)
>  11. Re: Interesting Headphones (Al Lorona)
>  12. Re: Interesting Headphones (David Bunte)
>  13. KX3 2M module install -- HELP (GRANT YOUNGMAN)
>  14. Re: Interesting Headphones (Ron D'Eau Claire)
>  15. K3s IPA IMD (Benny Aumala)
>  16. Re: Interesting Headphones (David Bunte)
>  17. Re: KX3 2M module install -- HELP (GRANT YOUNGMAN)
>  18. Re: KX3 2M module install -- HELP (Bob N3MNT)
>  19. Re: KX3 2M module install -- HELP (GRANT YOUNGMAN)
>  20. "What would I do with a KX2?" contest winning videos
>      (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
>  21. Re: "What would I do with a KX2?" contest winning videos
>      (Bill Barnes, N3JIX)
>  22. Re: "What would I do with a KX2?" contest winning videos
>      (Bill Frantz)
>  23. 2013 KX3 (Bob Jonas)
>  24. Re: 2013 KX3 (Glen Torr)
>  25. Re: 2013 KX3 (Ron D'Eau Claire)
>  26. February Special!! (Clay Autery)
>  27. Re: February Special!! ([hidden email])
>  28. K3 - using it on AM (Bill)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 07:39:56 -0800
> From: Dave Cole <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S goes Keydown
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Are you by chance running an end fed wire?
>
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave
> NK7Z
> http://www.nk7z.net
>
>> On 02/03/2017 07:18 AM, Dale Martin wrote:
>> I've been operating my new K3S for about 2 months now and love it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Last week, however, something unexpected happened: as soon as I keyed the
>> paddles or hit f1 to key the radio (CW), the radio went keydown. Only by
>> running the power down below 50-70 watts does it finally key up.
>>
>>
>>
>> It has happened a number of times since then. However, it doesn't happen all
>> the time.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've disconnected extraneous cables, moved power supplies and computer and
>> cables. No change. I've reattached cables, relocated equipment back to where
>> it was. Again, no change. Nothing seems to make a difference.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is also very sporadic. I can sit down and operate without an unexpected
>> keydown event. Other times, I can sit down and bang, it's gone key down and
>> I've got to run the power down to operate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Until last week, it never happened before. As I said, no changes have been
>> made to the station: equipment  configuration and positioning, cable
>> routing, antenna SWR/orientation, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> My next step is to find my box of ferrites and start clamping them on
>> cables-I've never had to do that at this station for any of the five radios
>> I've ever used here over many years. I figure if any of my past radios were
>> RFI susceptible it would have been my OMNI VI's. But I never had an
>> RFI-issue with them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Dale, kg5u
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 09:42:07 -0600
> From: Robie Elms <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Dale Martin <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S goes Keydown
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Dale,
>
> You have received some good suggestions. I will add look into a common mode choke on you feed line.  You may have one already, if so it may be marginal and a second one may solve your problems.
>
> Robie - AJ4F
>
>> On Feb 3, 2017, at 09:35, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Dale,
>>
>> Try it on a dummy load instead or your antenna.
>> If the problem is "cured", then look for a problem in your antenna system - RF is getting back into your shack.
>>
>> If the problem persists on the dummy load, contact K3support.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 2/3/2017 10:18 AM, Dale Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Last week, however, something unexpected happened: as soon as I keyed the
>>> paddles or hit f1 to key the radio (CW), the radio went keydown. Only by
>>> running the power down below 50-70 watts does it finally key up.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 11:16:40 -0600
> From: K9MA <[hidden email]>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] ATU Matching Range
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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>
> If you're ever wondering about the tuning range of an ATU, check out the
> blog of K6JCA:
>
> http://k6jca.blogspot.com/
>
> Jeff has done a really thorough analysis of the KAT500, among others,
> and plotted the entire range it is capable of matching on a Smith
> chart.  The plots show not only the maximum SWR it can match, but also
> the specific range of impedances.  The results would apply to any ATU
> using the same component values.  (The range of the  K3 ATU is similar
> to that of the KAT500.)
>
> 73,
>
> Scott  K9MA
>
> --
> Scott  K9MA
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:20:24 -0500
> From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S goes Keydown
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>
> It probably would help to describe your antenna(s).
>
> John KK9A
>
> Dale Martin kg5u said:
>
> I've been operating my new K3S for about 2 months now and love it.
>
>
>
> Last week, however, something unexpected happened: as soon as I keyed the
> paddles or hit f1 to key the radio (CW), the radio went keydown. Only by
> running the power down below 50-70 watts does it finally key up.
>
>
>
> It has happened a number of times since then. However, it doesn't happen all
> the time.
>
>
>
> I've disconnected extraneous cables, moved power supplies and computer and
> cables. No change. I've reattached cables, relocated equipment back to where
> it was. Again, no change. Nothing seems to make a difference.
>
>
>
> It is also very sporadic. I can sit down and operate without an unexpected
> keydown event. Other times, I can sit down and bang, it's gone key down and
> I've got to run the power down to operate.
>
>
>
> Until last week, it never happened before. As I said, no changes have been
> made to the station: equipment  configuration and positioning, cable
> routing, antenna SWR/orientation, etc.
>
>
>
> My next step is to find my box of ferrites and start clamping them on
> cables-I've never had to do that at this station for any of the five radios
> I've ever used here over many years. I figure if any of my past radios were
> RFI susceptible it would have been my OMNI VI's. But I never had an
> RFI-issue with them.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Dale, kg5u
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 17:32:12 -0000
> From: "Ian White" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>, "'Dale Martin'" <[hidden email]>,
>    <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S goes Keydown
> Message-ID: <016801d27e43$795703a0$6c050ae0$@co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>
> Many problems with 'RF in the shack' are caused by bad shield
> connections in PL259 plugs. It is also very typical for such problems to
> appear suddenly or intermittently.
>
> So if the problem persists when the K3S is connected only to a dummy
> load, change the coax patch lead as well.
>
> 73 from Ian GM3SEK
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> Don Wilhelm
>> Sent: 03 February 2017 15:35
>> To: Dale Martin; [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S goes Keydown
>>
>> Dale,
>>
>> Try it on a dummy load instead or your antenna.
>> If the problem is "cured", then look for a problem in your antenna
>> system - RF is getting back into your shack.
>>
>> If the problem persists on the dummy load, contact K3support.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 2/3/2017 10:18 AM, Dale Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Last week, however, something unexpected happened: as soon as I keyed
>> the
>>> paddles or hit f1 to key the radio (CW), the radio went keydown. Only
> by
>>> running the power down below 50-70 watts does it finally key up.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:11:49 -0600
> From: Aaron K5ATG <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] MARS on KX3
> Message-ID:
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> I'm looking into possibly getting involved in MARS. The guy that runs it
> locally sent the following question about the KX3:
> Can the Elecraft KX3 be opened to permit full operation from 1.8mHz to
> 29.9999 mHz and do they have installed TCXO (0.5%) frequency stability or
> the ability to install the hardware. MARS requires frequency
> accuracy/stability to be +/- 20Hz of center frequency on assigned channels
> for transmit.
> Is this possible with the KX3? If so how?
> Aaron K5ATG
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:20:36 -0600
> From: Kevin <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 display on start-up
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
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> South Atlantic Anomaly.
>
>
>> On 2/1/2017 6:53 PM, Gary Hawkins wrote:
>> I see the same issue with my KX3.  However, since it goes away after a
>> couple of seconds I've got use to it.  Anyone have ideas on the cause?
>>
>> 73's Gary K6YOA
>>
>>
>>> On 2/1/2017 4:25 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:41:20 +0000
>>> From: Stephen Prior<[hidden email]>
>>> To: Elecraft<[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 display on start-up
>>> Message-ID:
>>>    <[hidden email]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>
>>> Just received my KX2 and I'm very pleased with it, although fitting
>>> the ATU
>>> was a challenge, even after having read the updated information on it!
>>>
>>> Anyway, I believe all is well but there is something that I don't
>>> understand.  If the KX2 has been off for a while, when I turn it on I
>>> get
>>> some random parts of characters, mainly along the bottom half of the
>>> display.  They remain there for about 3 seconds until the display
>>> illumination comes on and the rest of the display disappears. This is
>>> absolutely no big deal unless it's a sign of some issue somewhere
>>> that has
>>> yet to rear its ugly head!
>>>
>>> Running latest (2.69) firmware.  I have a K3 and KX3 and have never
>>> noticed
>>> this behaviour with them.
>>>
>>> 73 Stephen
>>>
>>> G4SJP
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 18:21:02 +0000
> From: kevino z <[hidden email]>
> To: Aaron K5ATG <[hidden email]>
> Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MARS on KX3
> Message-ID:
>    <[hidden email]>
>    
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I used my KX3 on Army MARS without incident. Had no problems with MARS ALE or any of their digital modes (M110A).
> But I left due to family health issues.
> all you have to do a supplier Mars call sign to Ella craft and they will send you the proper software to unlock frequencies - executable runs on an MS Windows box only, if I remember correctly. Good luck and thanks for your time supporting MARS.
> -Kevin (KK4YEL)
>
> -----
> The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.
>
> On Feb 3, 2017, at 13:13, Aaron K5ATG <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> I'm looking into possibly getting involved in MARS. The guy that runs it
> locally sent the following question about the KX3:
> Can the Elecraft KX3 be opened to permit full operation from 1.8mHz to
> 29.9999 mHz and do they have installed TCXO (0.5%) frequency stability or
> the ability to install the hardware. MARS requires frequency
> accuracy/stability to be +/- 20Hz of center frequency on assigned channels
> for transmit.
> Is this possible with the KX3? If so how?
> Aaron K5ATG
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 10:27:27 -0800
> From: Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MARS on KX3
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
>
> From the manual:
>
>   Frequency Stability: +/- 1 ppm typical over 0-50 C. An extended temperature compenstation procedure can be applied for improved stability (refer to our KX3 web page).
>
> So for operation above 20 MHz, you need to do the extended temp compensation. I assume they don?t require a TCXO, but rather equivalent stability and accuracy.
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3%20Custom%20VFO%20TC%20rev%20A9.pdf <http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3%20Custom%20VFO%20TC%20rev%20A9.pdf>
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>> On Feb 3, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Aaron K5ATG <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking into possibly getting involved in MARS. The guy that runs it
>> locally sent the following question about the KX3:
>> Can the Elecraft KX3 be opened to permit full operation from 1.8mHz to
>> 29.9999 mHz and do they have installed TCXO (0.5%) frequency stability or
>> the ability to install the hardware. MARS requires frequency
>> accuracy/stability to be +/- 20Hz of center frequency on assigned channels
>> for transmit.
>> Is this possible with the KX3? If so how?
>> Aaron K5ATG
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 10:50:49 -0800
> From: Matt Zilmer <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MARS on KX3
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I was a Navy-Marine Corps MARS member, then that branch was absorbed
> into Army MARS.  While with Army MARS, I used my KX3 and KXPA100 out of
> the ham bands everyday of the week for net ops.
>
> The rig can be unlocked for out of band transmitusing software supplied
> by Elecraft.  If I remember correctly, the frequency spectrum about the
> CB frequencies is still locked out (CB plus a guard band on either end).
>
> Doing the temperature compensation procedure will improve your KX3's
> freq stability, but you'll have to test to see if it's in compliance
> with MARS requirements.  There's no guaranteeof this as I understand it.
>
> 73,
>
> matt W6NIA
>
>
>> On 2/3/2017 10:11 AM, Aaron K5ATG wrote:
>> I'm looking into possibly getting involved in MARS. The guy that runs it
>> locally sent the following question about the KX3:
>> Can the Elecraft KX3 be opened to permit full operation from 1.8mHz to
>> 29.9999 mHz and do they have installed TCXO (0.5%) frequency stability or
>> the ability to install the hardware. MARS requires frequency
>> accuracy/stability to be +/- 20Hz of center frequency on assigned channels
>> for transmit.
>> Is this possible with the KX3? If so how?
>> Aaron K5ATG
>> ______________________________________________________________
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> Pull the curtain, Fred.  It won't be long now.
>
> Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
> [Shiraz]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 19:59:50 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Al Lorona <[hidden email]>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Headphones
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> WARNING: LESS-THAN-POSITIVE RESPONSE BELOW
> I don't know... With three tattoos, two full beards and a man-bun on their page, I don't quite think I'm in their target demographic.
> I think their thing is simply equalizing the frequency response of each ear, no? ?Just use the RX EQ on your K3.
> Al? W6LX
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 15:12:11 -0500
> From: David Bunte <[hidden email]>
> To: Al Lorona <[hidden email]>
> Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Headphones
> Message-ID:
>    <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I think the demographic they are shooting for is likely the folks who see
> friends paying $300 for super fancy headphones, and can't spend that kind
> of money... maybe those folks look different than you do... I know they
> don't look much like me.
>
> I do think they are quite interesting and I believe you are correct in that
> they tailor the response to each ear separately. My hearing aids do that
> for me. Where I think these phones become less attractive, is that as your
> ears change, a new set may become necessary. Also, the way they evaluate
> what settings would be "correct" for you, seems too dependent on the
> headphones with which you take their test.
>
> I am very happy with the "Gaming" set from Plantronics that I got from BEST
> BUY for about $16.00.
>
> Dave - K9FN
>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Al Lorona <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> WARNING: LESS-THAN-POSITIVE RESPONSE BELOW
>> I don't know... With three tattoos, two full beards and a man-bun on their
>> page, I don't quite think I'm in their target demographic.
>> I think their thing is simply equalizing the frequency response of each
>> ear, no?  Just use the RX EQ on your K3.
>> Al  W6LX
>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 15:37:26 -0500
> From: GRANT YOUNGMAN <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Mailing List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 2M module install -- HELP
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Before I call tech support, thought I?d try here.
>
> Just installed in the 2M module in my KX3. I?m on the latest firmware rev.  Gone over the setup instructions several times, and the parameters are all set properly ? enabled, 50 Mhz IF, in the band map, etc.
>
> When I go to the 2M band, the display comes up 122.000.00  ?????
>
> Anyone have an idea?
>
> Thanks ...
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:37:34 -0800
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>
> To: "'David Bunte'" <[hidden email]>, "'Al Lorona'"
>    <[hidden email]>
> Cc: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Headphones
> Message-ID: <000301d27e5d$5a1e9e20$0e5bda60$@biz>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>
> The demo is just a demo. According to the web site, the phones come equipped
> to repeat that process to acoustically match the specific earphones to your
> ears and apparently can be repeated as needed.  
>
> It appears to match the audio level at eight different frequencies to each
> ear. Like many, my ears are quite different, with large holes in the
> response due to too much weapons firing in the Army many years ago. They
> compensate for that.
>
> I found the impact listening to their music clips striking.  
>
> I would like to hear if that has an effect on Ham-band SSB comms.
>
> The headphones are $179 I believe.
>
> FWIW, I do have the beard. Didn't notice any tats or man-buns on the models,
> but I wasn't searching for them. I have no involvement with the company. I
> just ran across the web site and thought it was interesting to those using
> headphones.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David
> Bunte
> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 12:12 PM
> To: Al Lorona
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Headphones
>
> I think the demographic they are shooting for is likely the folks who see
> friends paying $300 for super fancy headphones, and can't spend that kind of
> money... maybe those folks look different than you do... I know they don't
> look much like me.
>
> I do think they are quite interesting and I believe you are correct in that
> they tailor the response to each ear separately. My hearing aids do that for
> me. Where I think these phones become less attractive, is that as your ears
> change, a new set may become necessary. Also, the way they evaluate what
> settings would be "correct" for you, seems too dependent on the headphones
> with which you take their test.
>
> I am very happy with the "Gaming" set from Plantronics that I got from BEST
> BUY for about $16.00.
>
> Dave - K9FN
>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Al Lorona <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> WARNING: LESS-THAN-POSITIVE RESPONSE BELOW I don't know... With three
>> tattoos, two full beards and a man-bun on their page, I don't quite
>> think I'm in their target demographic.
>> I think their thing is simply equalizing the frequency response of
>> each ear, no?  Just use the RX EQ on your K3.
>> Al  W6LX
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 22:39:38 +0200
> From: Benny Aumala <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3s IPA IMD
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I have the K3s feeding JUMA PA1000 with 8...10W.
>
> It is all OK here, we do not have the 15dB rule.
>
> Using IPA is to prevent 100W PA additional distorsion.
>
> Old QST Review gave only 25 dB for IPA 3rd order IMD.
>
> What might be IMD in present-day K3s IPA ?
>
> Any measures available?
>
> Benny       OH9NB
>
>
> ---
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 15:49:39 -0500
> From: David Bunte <[hidden email]>
> To: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Al Lorona <[hidden email]>,    "[hidden email]"
>    <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Headphones
> Message-ID:
>    <CANCJpbTw8-SsWMkXSWA0=tVLUgfKgX+gZ==[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Ron -
>
> Thanks for the clarification. I had missed that the headphones are actually
> matched once you get them, and that can be re-done as needed. I think that
> really makes them attractive.
>
> I am going to share the link with locals, some of whom are not happy with
> what they are now using.
>
> I agree, the difference after their "tweaking" was significant.
>
> As I indicated, I am now using a "gaming" headset, because I may make 2 or
> 3 SSB contacts during the year, and want to be ready... but in my 73 plus
> years, I have NEVER been a computer gamer.
>
> Dave - K9FN
>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The demo is just a demo. According to the web site, the phones come
>> equipped
>> to repeat that process to acoustically match the specific earphones to your
>> ears and apparently can be repeated as needed.
>>
>> It appears to match the audio level at eight different frequencies to each
>> ear. Like many, my ears are quite different, with large holes in the
>> response due to too much weapons firing in the Army many years ago. They
>> compensate for that.
>>
>> I found the impact listening to their music clips striking.
>>
>> I would like to hear if that has an effect on Ham-band SSB comms.
>>
>> The headphones are $179 I believe.
>>
>> FWIW, I do have the beard. Didn't notice any tats or man-buns on the
>> models,
>> but I wasn't searching for them. I have no involvement with the company. I
>> just ran across the web site and thought it was interesting to those using
>> headphones.
>>
>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> David
>> Bunte
>> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 12:12 PM
>> To: Al Lorona
>> Cc: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Headphones
>>
>> I think the demographic they are shooting for is likely the folks who see
>> friends paying $300 for super fancy headphones, and can't spend that kind
>> of
>> money... maybe those folks look different than you do... I know they don't
>> look much like me.
>>
>> I do think they are quite interesting and I believe you are correct in that
>> they tailor the response to each ear separately. My hearing aids do that
>> for
>> me. Where I think these phones become less attractive, is that as your ears
>> change, a new set may become necessary. Also, the way they evaluate what
>> settings would be "correct" for you, seems too dependent on the headphones
>> with which you take their test.
>>
>> I am very happy with the "Gaming" set from Plantronics that I got from BEST
>> BUY for about $16.00.
>>
>> Dave - K9FN
>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Al Lorona <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> WARNING: LESS-THAN-POSITIVE RESPONSE BELOW I don't know... With three
>>> tattoos, two full beards and a man-bun on their page, I don't quite
>>> think I'm in their target demographic.
>>> I think their thing is simply equalizing the frequency response of
>>> each ear, no?  Just use the RX EQ on your K3.
>>> Al  W6LX
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 15:51:37 -0500
> From: GRANT YOUNGMAN <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Mailing List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 2M module install -- HELP
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Never mind ?
>
> Apparently it was just some garbage in VFO A.  VFO B was on 144.00 where it should have been.  A swap and copy of VFOs fixed the problem.
>
>
>> On Feb 3, 2017, at 3:37 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Before I call tech support, thought I?d try here.
>>
>> Just installed in the 2M module in my KX3. I?m on the latest firmware rev.  Gone over the setup instructions several times, and the parameters are all set properly ? enabled, 50 Mhz IF, in the band map, etc.
>>
>> When I go to the 2M band, the display comes up 122.000.00  ?????
>>
>> Anyone have an idea?
>>
>> Thanks ...
>> Grant NQ5T
>> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>>
>>
>>
>
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:52:56 -0700 (MST)
> From: Bob N3MNT <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 2M module install -- HELP
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Have you shut down the radio and restarted it?
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-2M-module-install-HELP-tp7626439p7626442.html
> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 16:15:57 -0500
> From: GRANT YOUNGMAN <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Mailing List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 2M module install -- HELP
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Yes, several times.  Just looks like a minor glitch.  See my note below.
>
> Thanks ? Grant NQ5T
>
>
>> On Feb 3, 2017, at 3:51 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Never mind ?
>>
>> Apparently it was just some garbage in VFO A.  VFO B was on 144.00 where it should have been.  A swap and copy of VFOs fixed the problem.
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2017, at 3:37 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Before I call tech support, thought I?d try here.
>>>
>>> Just installed in the 2M module in my KX3. I?m on the latest firmware rev.  Gone over the setup instructions several times, and the parameters are all set properly ? enabled, 50 Mhz IF, in the band map, etc.
>>>
>>> When I go to the 2M band, the display comes up 122.000.00  ?????
>>>
>>> Anyone have an idea?
>>>
>>> Thanks ...
>>> Grant NQ5T
>>> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:23:01 -0800
> From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] "What would I do with a KX2?" contest winning
>    videos
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> We've just completed our "What would you do with a KX2?" joint contest with
> K6UDA. Here are the winning videos that won a KX2. Pretty cool!
> See:
> https://youtu.be/xlDQu9GbbbY
>
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 22:15:29 +0000
> From: "Bill Barnes, N3JIX" <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>,    "Eric
>    Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "What would I do with a KX2?" contest winning
>    videos
> Message-ID:
>    <CA+=63EHA_j_G1rxfSw+=[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Congrats to the winners!!!!
>
> 73, de Bill, N3JIX
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:23 PM Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> We've just completed our "What would you do with a KX2?" joint contest with
>> K6UDA. Here are the winning videos that won a KX2. Pretty cool!
>> See:
>> https://youtu.be/xlDQu9GbbbY
>>
>> 73,
>> Eric
>> /elecraft.com/
>>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Fri,  3 Feb 2017 15:37:28 -0800
> From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "What would I do with a KX2?" contest winning
>    videos
> Message-ID:
>    <[hidden email]>
>    
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> I've a story to add to the list. My wife, KI6SLX was lucky
> enough to win a KX2 at the Foothill Amateur Radio Society's
> winter banquet. She was very pleased. Her radio experience is
> all on VHF/UHF FM, so after digging in the manual for a while,
> she asked me, "Do you know how to set it up for repeater use?" I
> dug around for a while, noticed it didn't support FM, and said,
> "I don't think it supports repeaters." A few days later she
> said, "Next time you're at HRO, please pick up a general class
> license manual."
>
> The short answer to, "What would you do with a KX2?" is "Get
> enough incentive to study for a license upgrade."
>
> We could use radios that allow technicians to operate on HF as
> an incentive to upgrade. The Yaesu FT-8900 comes close as it
> operates on 10M, 6M, 2M, and 70cm but it is FM only. It would be
> an ideal radio to introduce Technician licensees to HF
> operation, but it doesn't support SSB. Technicians can't use FM
> on 10M so, catch 22.
>
> (Yes, Technicians can use CW on several HF bands. But, the
> number of new licensees of any class who know CW is tiny. We've
> run out of retired commercial telegraphers who don't already
> have ham licenses.) Nowadays, you get your license, start to
> operate, and then you decide to learn CW.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 2/3/17 at 1:23 PM, [hidden email] (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ,
> Elecraft) wrote:
>
>> We've just completed our "What would you do with a KX2?" joint
>> contest with K6UDA. Here are the winning videos that won a KX2.
>> Pretty cool!
>> See:
>> https://youtu.be/xlDQu9GbbbY
>>
>> 73,
>> Eric
>> /elecraft.com/
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> up the
> 408-356-8506       | intelligence.  There's a knob called
> "brightness", but
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 19:41:59 -0500
> From: Bob Jonas <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] 2013 KX3
> Message-ID:
>    <CALw9zuQPHrgHTwmHW-aii=[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> This is my first time posting to this group. I'm hoping to own my first KX3
> in a week or so. I'm picking up a used 2013 KX3.
> Is there anything I should look for to update HW wise when I recieve it.
> The current owner has said it has the latest FW.
> Looking forward to being an active QRPer with this amazing rig!
> Thanks!
> --
> 7   3
> Bob-WX2I
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 12:51:33 +1100
> From: Glen Torr <[hidden email]>
> To: Bob Jonas <[hidden email]>
> Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2013 KX3
> Message-ID:
>    <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> I got  KX3 s/n 2000 as a kit. After reviewing the KX3 mod page I have just
> ordered the ball bearing optical encoder to replace the supplied magnetic
> with sleeve bearing encoder. I also ordered the heavier duty heat sink.
> Both are standard on current KX3s.
>
> Enjoy your KX3, it is now my top end rig and the K3 has found a new home.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Glen, VK1FB
>
>> On Saturday, February 4, 2017, Bob Jonas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> This is my first time posting to this group. I'm hoping to own my first KX3
>> in a week or so. I'm picking up a used 2013 KX3.
>> Is there anything I should look for to update HW wise when I recieve it.
>> The current owner has said it has the latest FW.
>> Looking forward to being an active QRPer with this amazing rig!
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> 7   3
>> Bob-WX2I
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> Message: 25
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 20:08:30 -0800
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>
> To: "'Bob Jonas'" <[hidden email]>,    <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2013 KX3
> Message-ID: <000b01d27e9c$584db010$08e91030$@biz>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi Bob:
>
> Download the kx3 Utility program from the Elecraft web site and check the
> firmware version with what you have in the KX3.
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/KX3_software.htm
>
> The owner's manual has all the information for checking and downloading new
> firmware. If you did not get one with our KX3 it can be downloaded from the
> Elecraft web site here:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740163%20KX3%20Owner's%20man%20Rev%20C5.pdf
>
> If you have the 2meter/4meter option installed the manual is here:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740247%20KX3-2M-4M%20Installation%20and%20Op
> eration%20Rev%20D.pdf
>
>
> For any information/updates hardware-wise, they will appear here:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#KX3
>
> I know of nothing critical at this time.
>
> Have fun! It's a great little rig.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob
> Jonas
> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 4:42 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] 2013 KX3
>
> This is my first time posting to this group. I'm hoping to own my first KX3
> in a week or so. I'm picking up a used 2013 KX3.
> Is there anything I should look for to update HW wise when I recieve it.
> The current owner has said it has the latest FW.
> Looking forward to being an active QRPer with this amazing rig!
> Thanks!
> --
> 7   3
> Bob-WX2I
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> Message: 26
> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 01:13:22 -0600
> From: Clay Autery <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] February Special!!
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Man, I really want to exercise the KAT500/KPA500 $100 off plus Free
> Shipping deal...
>
> Don't think I can scrape that much cash together before 28 Feb, though....
>
> Heck of a deal!
>
> --
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 15:28:32 +0000 (UTC)
> From: [hidden email]
> To: Clay Autery <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] February Special!!
> Message-ID:
>    <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Thanks; I didn't even know about the sale until you brought it up. You can always use the Wilma Flintstone method "charge it!" Now I need to try to figure out a way to explain this to the xyl.
> Alan Wong, KK6WA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Clay Autery" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 11:13:22 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] February Special!!
>
> Man, I really want to exercise the KAT500/KPA500 $100 off plus Free
> Shipping deal...
>
> Don't think I can scrape that much cash together before 28 Feb, though....
>
> Heck of a deal!
>
> --
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
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> Message: 28
> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 11:53:42 -0500
> From: Bill <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - using it on AM
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I have been using the K3 and KPA500 on AM lately and I have to say, it
> has opened a whole new world to me - or returned me to a past world.
>
> I made a set of AM settings in the EQ and am getting great audio reports
> . The KPA500 develops enough power to keep me in the running 99% of the
> time. No need for a bunch of too heavy to lift big iron equipment.
>
> Life is great!
>
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
>
>
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