On the reflector I am a business and was reinstated when Bowie became the moderator. He has helped level the playing field. No issues since his takeover and leadership. 73 Scott AK6Q
> On May 16, 2017, at 21:52, [hidden email] wrote: > > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > [hidden email] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [hidden email] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [hidden email] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ? (Don Wilhelm) > 2. Re: K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ? (Svend Spanget) > 3. [KX2] can't feed with signalink (kevino z) > 4. Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 157, Issue 22 ([hidden email]) > 5. Macro save current state of setting (Joe DeVincentis) > 6. KPA-1500 with KX-3/KXPA-100 (K5MWR) > 7. Unequal signal form dual receive in KX3 (Ignacy) > 8. Re: Macro save current state of setting (Don Wilhelm) > 9. Re: Macro save current state of setting (Joe DeVincentis) > 10. Re: KX2 Heatsink (Howard Hoyt) > 11. Re: Hallicrafters HA-1 with O/T comments (Russ) > 12. Re: KX3-PX3 QRP System for Sale (Robert Nobis) > 13. [K3S] mW TX for WSPR (MaverickNH) > 14. Re: [K3S] mW TX for WSPR ([hidden email]) > 15. Re: [K3S] mW TX for WSPR (Charles) > 16. iphone remote control for the KPA500 (Jeff) > 17. Looking for more K3 firmware field testers (rev. 5.60) > (Wayne Burdick) > 18. Re: KX2 Heatsink (Ignacy) > 19. Re: iphone remote control for the KPA500 (Michael Walker) > 20. Re: KX2 Heatsink (Don Wilhelm) > 21. Re: [KX2] can't feed with signalink (Jack Spitznagel) > 22. Re: iphone remote control for the KPA500 (Barry Baines) > 23. Re: iphone remote control for the KPA500 (Michael Walker) > 24. Re: [K3S] mW TX for WSPR ([hidden email]) > 25. Re: iphone remote control for the KPA500 (Barry Baines) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 07:46:59 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> > To: Svend Spanget <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ? > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Svend, > > For the "1." problem, re-do the Transmit Gain Calibration, and be > certain to include the mW calibration. > > As for the PTT not coming active when in transverter state, I have no > immediate answer, but suggest you contact K3support. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 5/16/2017 4:19 AM, Svend Spanget wrote: >> I recently connected a Kuhne TR 144 H +40 to my K3 in order to be QRV on 2 m >> for the upcoming Sporadic E season and weak signal dx. >> I use the KXV3 with output power set to 1.5 mW (XV1 PWR = L 1.50). >> >> It works fine but I have a few issues: >> >> 1. When switching on or after bandswitch the transverter is not driven to >> full output. A short XMIT in FM mode somehow restores the output and going >> back to SSB the output from the transverter is now as expected. >> >> 2. When using VOX with SSB the transverter is not keyed. Using PTT either >> with a footswitch or the pushbutton on my MH2 keys the transverter just >> fine. I have a cable connected to KEY OUT and the transverter. >> Using VOX and SSB with my Henry 2KD-5 works perfect. >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 04:50:25 -0700 (MST) > From: Svend Spanget <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ? > Message-ID: <0D.07.11511.A77EA195@n9> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks, Don. > > I already did both without any luck... > > ----- Original meddelelse ----- > >> Fra: Don Wilhelm [via Elecraft] <[hidden email]> >> Til: Svend Spanget <[hidden email]> >> Dato: Tir, 16. maj 2017 13:48 >> Emne: Re: K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ? >> >> Svend, For the "1." problem, re-do the Transmit Gain Calibration, and >> be certain to include the mW calibration. As for the PTT not coming >> active when in transverter state, I have no immediate answer, but >> suggest you contact K3support. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/16/2017 4:19 AM, >> Svend Spanget wrote: > I recently connected a Kuhne TR 144 H +40 to >> my K3 in order to be QRV on 2 m > for the upcoming Sporadic E season >> and weak signal dx. > I use the KXV3 with output power set to 1.5 mW >> (XV1 PWR = L 1.50). > > It works fine but I have a few issues: > > 1. >> When switching on or after bandswitch the transverter is not driven >> to > full output. A short XMIT in FM mode somehow restores the output >> and going > back to SSB the output from the transverter is now as >> expected. > > 2. When using VOX with SSB the transverter is not >> keyed. Using PTT either > with a footswitch or the pushbutton on my >> MH2 keys the transverter just > fine. I have a cable connected to KEY >> OUT and the transverter. > Using VOX and SSB with my Henry 2KD-5 >> works perfect. > >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list Home: >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft [http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft]Help: >> http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm [http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm]Post: >> mailto:[hidden email] [http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm] This list >> hosted by: http://www.qsl.net [http://www.qsl.net]Please help support >> this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html [http://www.qsl.net/donate.html]Message >> delivered to [hidden email] [http://www.qsl.net/donate.html] >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the >> discussion below: >> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-CW-Delay-on-KEY-OUT-tp7630637p7630718.html [http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-CW-Delay-on-KEY-OUT-tp7630637p7630718.html]To >> unsubscribe from K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ?, click here [ >> NAML [http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml] > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-CW-Delay-on-KEY-OUT-tp7630637p7630719.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 11:52:05 +0000 > From: kevino z <[hidden email]> > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] can't feed with signalink > Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I took my KX2 with me instead of my KX3. I hooked up the signalink exactly the same. However, when the signalink starts "transmitting" (i.e. PTT red LED lit), the KX2 is not transmitting, and when the signalink finishes, the KX2 displays "connect data to mic jack." > > I searched on the web and didn't see a clue. Can someone please tell me what is this about and how do I get the signalink to work with the KX2? > > And maybe Elecraft can possible document this error in a FAQ or user manual? > > Thanks > -Kevin (KK4YEL) > > No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced ! > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 08:25:01 -0400 > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 157, Issue 22 > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > In a message dated 5/16/2017 4:28:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [hidden email] writes: > > I will be driving from Dayton back to Wake Forest, NC, so a few extra > packages will not be any problem. > You won't be home yet, but that's close enough... :~) Wish I were going to > Dayton, haven't been there in 10 years! Have fun, Don. > Bert, N4CW > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 07:25:47 -0500 > From: Joe DeVincentis <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Mailing List <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] Macro save current state of setting > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Is there a way to have the K3 save a setting in a macro to restore for later use? I got this idea after seeing Wayne?s post about the new Delay command. > > I want this for a K-Pod button to do a quick squirt of RF for the auto-tuner. The tuner senses the RF and then goes to a preset. So I?d like the button to do the following. > > Save the current Tune Power Setting > Change the Tune Power Setting to 10w > Delay 10ms > Initiate Tune > Delay 100ms > Stop Tune > Reset the Tune Power Setting to the previous setting > > Thanks, > > Joe > KO8V > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 07:34:38 -0500 > From: K5MWR <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 with KX-3/KXPA-100 > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > How integrated will the KPA-1500 be with the KX-3/KXPA-100 system? > > Thanks > Dave K5MWR > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 06:31:41 -0700 (MST) > From: Ignacy <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] Unequal signal form dual receive in KX3 > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > With dual receive, my KX3 has different gains from VFO A and B. This is > easily heard when switching pressing A/B. When in dual receive, a weak > station in VFO B may disappear as VFO B. > > I do not hear this in K3. When A/B switching, the signals just change sides. > > Any workaround? > > Ignacy, NO9E > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Unequal-signal-form-dual-receive-in-KX3-tp7630724.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 09:34:01 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> > To: Joe DeVincentis <[hidden email]>, Elecraft Mailing List > <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro save current state of setting > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Joe, > > Your problem is that Macros cannot read anything and save it. They can > only initiate things. Setting the power to 10 watts and initiating a > TUNE is quite possible (and even spelled out in the Macro examples in > the K3 Programmer's Reference), but getting the power back to wherever > it was previously set is the difficult part. you could restore the > power to some predetermined level - say 100 watts. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 5/16/2017 8:25 AM, Joe DeVincentis wrote: >> Is there a way to have the K3 save a setting in a macro to restore for later use? I got this idea after seeing Wayne?s post about the new Delay command. >> >> I want this for a K-Pod button to do a quick squirt of RF for the auto-tuner. The tuner senses the RF and then goes to a preset. So I?d like the button to do the following. >> >> Save the current Tune Power Setting >> Change the Tune Power Setting to 10w >> Delay 10ms >> Initiate Tune >> Delay 100ms >> Stop Tune >> Reset the Tune Power Setting to the previous setting >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe >> KO8V >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 09:17:21 -0500 > From: Joe DeVincentis <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Mailing List <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro save current state of setting > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I figured that - I was hoping for some magic :-) Maybe Elecraft can implement a push/pop stack feature. For example: > > PUSH TUN - save tune power > PUSH AG - save audio gain - just for grins - it?s an example > TUN 10 > AG 0 > SWH 16 - initiate TUNE > DE 10 - wait 100ms > SWH 16 stop tune > POP AG - restore tune > POP TUN - restore tune power. > > That?s the dream. I know I?d like it. > > 73, > Joe KO8V > >> On May 16, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Joe, >> >> Your problem is that Macros cannot read anything and save it. They can only initiate things. Setting the power to 10 watts and initiating a TUNE is quite possible (and even spelled out in the Macro examples in the K3 Programmer's Reference), but getting the power back to wherever it was previously set is the difficult part. you could restore the power to some predetermined level - say 100 watts. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 10:22:23 -0400 > From: Howard Hoyt <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Heatsink > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Leroy, > > Many of us experienced exactly what you described: banning without > notice and no replies from the moderator. I despise that method of > running a list and no member has been treated that way since I became > moderator of the Yahoo KX3 KX User Group in late May 2015 and I believe > all here who are also on the KX3 list will agree. So I say again, your > recollection of the timing of that event is in error. > > I also checked the email logs for the account: [hidden email] > and see no email from your email account in 2017. Please forward a copy > so I can respond properly. > > Howie - WA4PSC > > > >> On 5/16/2017 4:19 AM, [hidden email] wrote: >> You should know it was a year ago that I was banned from the KX3 list for >> mentioning a heat sink. I just two months ago emailed the list moderator, no response. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 14:28:33 +0000 > From: Russ <[hidden email]> > To: Doug Person <[hidden email]>, "[hidden email]" > <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Hallicrafters HA-1 with O/T comments > Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Doug: > > You are correct - and it seems that Maker Ffaires might be the venue for amateur radio outreach to the younger generation. > When I am retired, I certainly would like to be part of this initiative. Is this something the ARRL should look at? > I am happy to say that I am an Elmer to KB1YNK, who presented a paper at Dayton a couple of years ago. > > Russ KD4JO > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Doug Person > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:15 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Hallicrafters HA-1 with O/T comments > > You are very mistaken in your statement regarding kids not building things. They're not building ham radio, that's for sure. But find any maker faire and you will be stunned by the age and ability of the kids demonstrating their projects. Maker Faires (Their preferred spelling it > seems) would be a great place to communicate ham radio to the younger generation. Arduino and Raspberry PI have enormous followings by teenagers and even a lot of pre-teens. Don't write them off! Our community has done a poor job of out reach to the teens of today. > > Doug -- K0DXV > > >> On 5/15/2017 11:27 AM, Russ wrote: >> Guys: >> >> Thanks!!! >> I appreciate all the responses. >> I guess my Googling ability is not as good as it used to be. >> I swear I couldn't find the schematic. >> >> At age 15 and after building many Heathkits - I decided to just copy the HA-1 schematic. >> It was good experience for a kid - nowadays nobody (no kids anyway) >> build hardware >> >> Russ KD4JO >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 11:25:23 -0700 > From: Robert Nobis <[hidden email]> > To: pkhjr via Elecraft <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3-PX3 QRP System for Sale > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > This KX3-PX3 system has been sold. > > 73, > > > Bob Nobis > [hidden email] > > >> On May 15, 2017, at 08:07, Robert Nobis <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I am no longer able to operate portable, so am selling my factory built Elecraft KX3 and PX3 QRP system. The KX3 was recently calibrated, tested and updated with the latest firmware (MCU 2.76/DSP 1.50) at the Elecraft factory. Used on two field trips to Japan. No smoking environment. The equipment is configured as follows: >> >> >> KX3-F Factory Assembled KX3 (ser # 7486 ) >> KXAT3-F Internal 20W ATU >> KXBC3-F Internal NiMH charger with Real-time clock >> KXFL3-F Dual Passband Roofing Filter >> KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Kit >> PAE-KX31 Pro Audio KX3 Heatsink >> PAE-KX33 Pro Audio KX3 Power Supply >> 33-100 KX3-PX3 Power Splitter >> Side KX3 KX3 End Panels (Gems Products) >> >> PX3-F Panadapter for KX3 with cables - Factory Assembled (Ser # 1059 ) >> Side PX3 PX3 End Panels (Gems Products) >> >> SideKar QRP Works SideKar with Power Splitter? >> >> >> All manuals are included. I am looking for $2,150.00 for the complete system. I will pay for shipping to CONUS only. Payment by PayPal only. >> >> Email me at N7RJN at nobis.net <mailto:[hidden email]> for more details. >> >> >> Robert (Bob) Nobis ? N7RJN >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 11:37:31 -0700 (MST) > From: MaverickNH <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] [K3S] mW TX for WSPR > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I'm trying to fiddle the TX power on my K3S using WSJT-X WSPR 1.7 on a 43ft > Vertical to match the 200 mW output of a WSPRlite over a random wire dipole > antenna, using the DXplorer.net simultaneous RX measurement system > https://tinyurl.com/mthms72 . Is TX wattage continuous with rotation of the > PWR knob? It has 0.1W decrements and I seem to find equal performance > between 0.6 and 0.7W on the K3S and was curious if halfway between 0.6 and > 0.7W as I rotate the knob is 0.65W? I can imagine precision of TX power > isn't accurate to more than +/1 0.1W but thought I'd inquire. > > Bret/N4SRN > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-mW-TX-for-WSPR-tp7630731.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 17:40:31 -0400 (EDT) > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3S] mW TX for WSPR > Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Bret, > > > When using the DXplorer.net simultaneous receive measurement > system, its best if you have the capability to start your testing > by simultaneously transmitting through a Magic-T combiner > into a single antenna. > > > In less than 30 minutes you'll have enough data from DXplorer.net > to calibrate out any power output difference between the two > transmitters. After you've completed the calibration you're ready > to connect each WSPR transmitter to the antennas under test. > > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MaverickNH" <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:37:31 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] [K3S] mW TX for WSPR > > I'm trying to fiddle the TX power on my K3S using WSJT-X WSPR 1.7 on a 43ft > Vertical to match the 200 mW output of a WSPRlite over a random wire dipole > antenna, using the DXplorer.net simultaneous RX measurement system > https://tinyurl.com/mthms72 . Is TX wattage continuous with rotation of the > PWR knob? It has 0.1W decrements and I seem to find equal performance > between 0.6 and 0.7W on the K3S and was curious if halfway between 0.6 and > 0.7W as I rotate the knob is 0.65W? I can imagine precision of TX power > isn't accurate to more than +/1 0.1W but thought I'd inquire. > > Bret/N4SRN > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-mW-TX-for-WSPR-tp7630731.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 22:40:09 +0000 (UTC) > From: Charles <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3S] mW TX for WSPR > Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Frank, > > I think I see what you are suggesting - matching the power transmitted by each transceiver over a common antenna to assure I'm feeding two different antennas with the same TX power? > > I'm finding a Magic-T RX Splitter/Combiner https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/svp-sv-rsc-50 Can I use this to transmit as well? I'd like to give your plan a try. > > I was looking at the problem from a different perspective perhaps. Since the WSPRlite is a low output TXer (variable over 16 dB range up to 200mW, so I think that means 5mW to 200mW) I was looking to set that at 200mW on my random dipole antenna (two random wires, one E-W and the other W-E, joined by a 4:1 balun) and try to figure what power on my nearby 43ft Vertical gave the same profile on DXplorer.net. > > I think comparing a dipole to a vertical might be a interesting task, as it appears one is more "efficient" at night and the other during the day. The DX10 lines seem to invert at dawn and dusk on 40m. Two completely different antennas types cannot be equivalent a priori , I suppose! > > BRET/N4SRN > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:40:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3S] mW TX for WSPR > > Hi Bret, > > When using the DXplorer.net simultaneous receive measurement > system, its best if you have the capability to start your testing > by simultaneously transmitting through a Magic-T combiner > into a single antenna. > > In less than 30 minutes you'll have enough data from DXplorer.net > to calibrate out any power output difference between the two > transmitters. After you've completed the calibration you're ready > to connect each WSPR transmitter to the antennas under test. > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MaverickNH" <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:37:31 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] [K3S] mW TX for WSPR > > I'm trying to fiddle the TX power on my K3S using WSJT-X WSPR 1.7 on a 43ft > Vertical to match the 200 mW output of a WSPRlite over a random wire dipole > antenna, using the DXplorer.net simultaneous RX measurement system > https://tinyurl.com/mthms72 . Is TX wattage continuous with rotation of the > PWR knob? It has 0.1W decrements and I seem to find equal performance > between 0.6 and 0.7W on the K3S and was curious if halfway between 0.6 and > 0.7W as I rotate the knob is 0.65W? I can imagine precision of TX power > isn't accurate to more than +/1 0.1W but thought I'd inquire. > > Bret/N4SRN > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-mW-TX-for-WSPR-tp7630731.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 20:03:45 -0400 > From: "Jeff" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] iphone remote control for the KPA500 > Message-ID: <3E432AFFBFFA4A86B26F9A1AAC1D77B1@kb2m4PC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > > Is anyone working on an iPhone remote control APP for the KPA500? I move my > KPA-500 with me when I travel from my winter home to my summer home. When > down south for the winter I use the KPA500 with my FLEX 6500 that has a > wonderful iPhone remote control APP. It would be nice to be able to control > the KPA500 via iPhone also... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 18:45:43 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] Looking for more K3 firmware field testers (rev. > 5.60) > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi all, > > All reports so far show that K3 field test firmware rev. 5.60 has greatly improved operation of macros, in particular when used with the K-Pod. > > But we could use a lot more testers to make sure everything else is working perfectly. If you could spare some time in the next day or two, please email me and I?ll send you the firmware. > > Thanks & 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 18:52:51 -0700 (MST) > From: Ignacy <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Heatsink > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I posted quite a few messages to the KX3 group on Yahoo. Some of them over a > year ago were lost. I asked Howie and he responded that he deleted nothing. > It seems that past May of last year, none of my posts made. My messages to > other groups on yahoo make it, the last one yesterday. > > Not sure what it is. Many "free" websites now change designs, often for the > worse to a user, to generate more advertising. Perhaps it is due to an ad > blocker with a specific browser. > > Ignacy, NO9E > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-Heatsink-tp7630670p7630736.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 22:06:11 -0400 > From: Michael Walker <[hidden email]> > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] iphone remote control for the KPA500 > Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I agree as I use mine with my 6300 exclusively remote. > > I could live with a simple web page which is what I do now with PSTRotator > for Rotor control and RemoteQTH server which I use for remote buttons. > > I would only need to be able to see it's status and alarms. I don't require > real time power information. > > If it was a small web view, then it could run on most platforms and there > would be no need for the Android, IOS, Desktop versions for those of us who > live the live of the long mic cord. > > I would include screen shots, but I think they get purged. > > Mike va3mw > > >> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Jeff <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >> Is anyone working on an iPhone remote control APP for the KPA500? I move >> my KPA-500 with me when I travel from my winter home to my summer home. >> When down south for the winter I use the KPA500 with my FLEX 6500 that has >> a wonderful iPhone remote control APP. It would be nice to be able to >> control the KPA500 via iPhone also... >> >> 73 Jeff kb2m >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> http://www.avg.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 22:30:23 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> > To: Ignacy <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Heatsink > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Ignacy, > > If those posts were responses to posts, then know that "Reply" goes only > to the sender. You must do "Reply All" to send to the group and to the > sender. If you do not want to reply to the sender, delete that address. > > The KX3 Yahoo Group works differently than many other groups. I worked > with the moderator to make replying to only the poster possible without > "jumping through hoops", and the result is the best he could accomplish. > > Look at the "To" line in your responses. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 5/16/2017 9:52 PM, Ignacy wrote: >> I posted quite a few messages to the KX3 group on Yahoo. Some of them over a >> year ago were lost. I asked Howie and he responded that he deleted nothing. >> It seems that past May of last year, none of my posts made. My messages to >> other groups on yahoo make it, the last one yesterday. >> >> Not sure what it is. Many "free" websites now change designs, often for the >> worse to a user, to generate more advertising. Perhaps it is due to an ad >> blocker with a specific browser. >> >> Ignacy, NO9E >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-Heatsink-tp7630670p7630736.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 23:04:37 -0400 > From: Jack Spitznagel <[hidden email]> > To: kevino z <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2] can't feed with signalink > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Kevin, > > That would be odd. You should not need to set VOX since the SLUSB has one. I wonder if the header wires came out of the interface DIP socket? I set up several plug-in DIPs that are soldered up for the several rigs that I use. I had the wires fall out while traveling. > > Jack KD4IZ > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 16, 2017, at 16:11, kevino z <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Yes, Data A and even VOX >> >> >> ----- >> The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence. >> >>> On May 16, 2017, at 07:26, Jack Spitznagel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Kev. >>> >>> Are you set to use DATA A? Most common reason for KX3 not working and assuming similar for KX2. >>> >>> Jack KD4IZ >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On May 16, 2017, at 07:52, kevino z <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I took my KX2 with me instead of my KX3. I hooked up the signalink exactly the same. However, when the signalink starts "transmitting" (i.e. PTT red LED lit), the KX2 is not transmitting, and when the signalink finishes, the KX2 displays "connect data to mic jack." >>>> >>>> I searched on the web and didn't see a clue. Can someone please tell me what is this about and how do I get the signalink to work with the KX2? >>>> >>>> And maybe Elecraft can possible document this error in a FAQ or user manual? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Kevin (KK4YEL) >>>> >>>> No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced ! >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >>> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 23:43:38 -0400 > From: Barry Baines <[hidden email]> > To: Jeff <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] iphone remote control for the KPA500 > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Jeff: > >> On May 16, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Jeff <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >> Is anyone working on an iPhone remote control APP for the KPA500? > > Not a problem today if you use the Remote Rig RC-1216H to control the KPA500 (available through HRO). It uses a web interface which looks just like the KPA500 front panel; the amplifier interface utilizes the RS232 serial connection, so I control my KPA500 with my iPad or MacBook running Safari or Chrome. Likewise, I use a second Remote Rig 1216H to control my Green Heron Rotor Controller (RT-21), so I can manage my antenna pointing with the iPAD/iPhone/MacBook with ease. > > See: http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010#tabs-3 <http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010#tabs-3> > > Note that the RC-1216H can manage various amplifiers and antenna rotators. Unfortunately, the firmware does not support the KAT500 or the Alpha 9500. > > The RC-1216H is an excellent device for managing compatible devices when operating remotely; e.g. my shack is in SE Georgia and I?m in New England, Texas, etc. > > > At this point the only devices that I must use a Windows OS is with the KAT500 and the Antenna Genius 8x2 antenna switch. The antenna switch allows me to select which transceiver (K3 or Flex) is active on a given port. The Antenna Genius has a LAN connection, so I can access it relatively easily remotely and run the windows software from wherever I am. > > I use a serial-to-ethernet converter to interface with the KAT500 so that the computer at my location can control the KAT500 at the shack without a PC in the shack. > > Lastly, I use the West Mountain Radio 5-port R4005i to turn on/off devices using a web interface that it has. The allows me to remotely activate the Flex6700, control preamps and other accessories, etc. So again, it can all be done with an iPhone/iPad/MacBook or any web-capable device. > > To the extent that I can run a shack without running Windows and a PC, the happier I am. > > FWIW, > > Barry Baines, WD4ASW > (Currently in Mercer, PA enroute to Hamvention?) > > >> I move my KPA-500 with me when I travel from my winter home to my summer home. When down south for the winter I use the KPA500 with my FLEX 6500 that has a wonderful iPhone remote control APP. It would be nice to be able to control the KPA500 via iPhone also... >> >> 73 Jeff kb2m >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> http://www.avg.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 23:58:06 -0400 > From: Michael Walker <[hidden email]> > To: Barry Baines <[hidden email]> > Cc: Jeff <[hidden email]>, "[hidden email]" > <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] iphone remote control for the KPA500 > Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Barry > > I have 2 RemoteRig pairs as I used to use them on my TS480's (I've been > running remote for about 11 years now). I am now running remote with the > Flex Maestro and the 6300 and that works wonderfully. I'll likely sell > both of them at some point in the future. They did serve me very well. > > I would also then have to buy the RC-1216 and that turns out to be about > $500 CDN for just essentially a web server. That is going to take some > thought. > > Since my internet upload is about 1mb/sec at the remote base, I really > limit how much I push up. I have 1 computer that I RDP into for all my > command and control. I did do serial tunneling one year, but then it > locked me into only 1 operating QTH. > > Now, I can operate my HF station from anywhere with just a laptop or even > IOS mobile (yes, that is a stretch, but fun to try). Having a web > interface just makes it very platform agnostic especially if I want one of > my buddies to give my station a try. > > Does Elecraft publish the host IP commands on the KPA500 server? If they > do, I was not able to find them. I have a guy that I might be able to > convince to write me an interface. It will cost me some $$ to make it > happen. > > Thanks for the ideas! Lots of wonderful options. > > Mike va3mw > > > > >> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Barry Baines <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Jeff: >> >>> On May 16, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Jeff <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Is anyone working on an iPhone remote control APP for the KPA500? >> >> Not a problem today if you use the Remote Rig RC-1216H to control the >> KPA500 (available through HRO). It uses a web interface which looks just >> like the KPA500 front panel; the amplifier interface utilizes the RS232 >> serial connection, so I control my KPA500 with my iPad or MacBook running >> Safari or Chrome. Likewise, I use a second Remote Rig 1216H to control my >> Green Heron Rotor Controller (RT-21), so I can manage my antenna pointing >> with the iPAD/iPhone/MacBook with ease. >> >> See: http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010#tabs-3 < >> http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=1010#tabs-3> >> >> Note that the RC-1216H can manage various amplifiers and antenna >> rotators. Unfortunately, the firmware does not support the KAT500 or the >> Alpha 9500. >> >> The RC-1216H is an excellent device for managing compatible devices when >> operating remotely; e.g. my shack is in SE Georgia and I?m in New England, >> Texas, etc. >> >> >> At this point the only devices that I must use a Windows OS is with the >> KAT500 and the Antenna Genius 8x2 antenna switch. The antenna switch >> allows me to select which transceiver (K3 or Flex) is active on a given >> port. The Antenna Genius has a LAN connection, so I can access it >> relatively easily remotely and run the windows software from wherever I am. >> >> I use a serial-to-ethernet converter to interface with the KAT500 so that >> the computer at my location can control the KAT500 at the shack without a >> PC in the shack. >> >> Lastly, I use the West Mountain Radio 5-port R4005i to turn on/off devices >> using a web interface that it has. The allows me to remotely activate the >> Flex6700, control preamps and other accessories, etc. So again, it can >> all be done with an iPhone/iPad/MacBook or any web-capable device. >> >> To the extent that I can run a shack without running Windows and a PC, the >> happier I am. >> >> FWIW, >> >> Barry Baines, WD4ASW >> (Currently in Mercer, PA enroute to Hamvention?) >> >> >>> I move my KPA-500 with me when I travel from my winter home to my summer >> home. When down south for the winter I use the KPA500 with my FLEX 6500 >> that has a wonderful iPhone remote control APP. It would be nice to be >> able to control the KPA500 via iPhone also... >>> >>> 73 Jeff kb2m >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> http://www.avg.com >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 00:48:12 -0400 (EDT) > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3S] mW TX for WSPR > Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > The DX Engineering Magic-T combiner should work fine. > Just be sure you don't too much power into it! Much less than > one watt. > > > The dual receive feature of DXplorer should do the trick for you. > > > Same polarization antennas produce almost immediate good > performance evaluation results. Evaluating the performance of > antennas with different polarizations might take some effort. > > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles" <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Cc: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:40:09 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3S] mW TX for WSPR > > > > Hi Frank, > > > > I think I see what you are suggesting - matching the power transmitted by each transceiver over a common antenna to assure I'm feeding two different antennas with the same TX power? > > > I'm finding a Magic-T RX Splitter/Combiner https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/svp-sv-rsc-50 Can I use this to transmit as well? I'd like to give your plan a try. > > > > I was looking at the problem from a different perspective perhaps. Since the WSPRlite is a low output TXer (variable over 16 dB range up to 200mW, so I think that means 5mW to 200mW) I was looking to set that at 200mW on my random dipole antenna (two random wires, one E-W and the other W-E, joined by a 4:1 balun) and try to figure what power on my nearby 43ft Vertical gave the same profile on DXplorer.net. > > > > I think comparing a dipole to a vertical might be a interesting task, as it appears one is more "efficient" at night and the other during the day. The DX10 lines seem to invert at dawn and dusk on 40m. Two completely different antennas types cannot be equivalent a priori , I suppose! > > > > BRET/N4SRN > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:40:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3S] mW TX for WSPR > > > > Hi Bret, > > > When using the DXplorer.net simultaneous receive measurement > system, its best if you have the capability to start your testing > by simultaneously transmitting through a Magic-T combiner > into a single antenna. > > > In less than 30 minutes you'll have enough data from DXplorer.net > to calibrate out any power output difference between the two > transmitters. After you've completed the calibration you're ready > to connect each WSPR transmitter to the antennas under test. > > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MaverickNH" <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:37:31 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] [K3S] mW TX for WSPR > > > I'm trying to fiddle the TX power on my K3S using WSJT-X WSPR 1.7 on a 43ft > Vertical to match the 200 mW output of a WSPRlite over a random wire dipole > antenna, using the DXplorer.net simultaneous RX measurement system > https://tinyurl.com/mthms72 . Is TX wattage continuous with rotation of the > PWR knob? It has 0.1W decrements and I seem to find equal performance > between 0.6 and 0.7W on the K3S and was curious if halfway between 0.6 and > 0.7W as I rotate the knob is 0.65W? I can imagine precision of TX power > isn't accurate to more than +/1 0.1W but thought I'd inquire. > > > Bret/N4SRN > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-mW-TX-for-WSPR-tp7630731.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 00:52:13 -0400 > From: Barry Baines <[hidden email]> > To: Michael Walker <[hidden email]> > Cc: Jeff <[hidden email]>, "[hidden email]" > <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] iphone remote control for the KPA500 > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > MikeL > > >> On May 16, 2017, at 11:58 PM, Michael Walker <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hi Barry >> >> I have 2 RemoteRig pairs as I used to use them on my TS480's (I've been running remote for about 11 years now). I am now running remote with the Flex Maestro and the 6300 and that works wonderfully. I'll likely sell both of them at some point in the future. They did serve me very well. >> >> I would also then have to buy the RC-1216 and that turns out to be about $500 CDN for just essentially a web server. That is going to take some thought. > > It boils down to cost vs. benefit. I invested in two RC-1216H units because I really wanted to stay away from using a PC in the shack. Since the station is over 1,200 miles from where I would access it, eliminating a shack computer really can improve system reliability. A failure in the shack due to PC problems not only raises the question of what the status of the RF equipment is, but also means it could be several months before I?m back on the property to resolve any issues. >> >> Since my internet upload is about 1mb/sec at the remote base, I really limit how much I push up. I have 1 computer that I RDP into for all my command and control. I did do serial tunneling one year, but then it locked me into only 1 operating QTH. > > My station in rural SE Georgia currently has 1.2 mb/sec upload/ 20 MB download through Windstream. I have no problem running the K3 and K3/IO-mini with Remote Rig plus the two RC-1216Hs for the KPA500 and rotor control on such a network connection. > >> >> Now, I can operate my HF station from anywhere with just a laptop or even IOS mobile (yes, that is a stretch, but fun to try). Having a web interface just makes it very platform agnostic especially if I want one of my buddies to give my station a try. >> >> Does Elecraft publish the host IP commands on the KPA500 server? > > Don?t know?. > > >> If they do, I was not able to find them. I have a guy that I might be able to convince to write me an interface. It will cost me some $$ to make it happen. >> >> Thanks for the ideas! Lots of wonderful options. > > Enjoy, > > Barry > WD4ASW > > >> >> >> Mike va3mw >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > ------------------------------ > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 157, Issue 23 > ***************************************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email]
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