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To all who responded to my question about distorted SSB audio with the KXPA100, thanks!


My antenna is a Hy-Gain AV620 elevated vertical, fed with 100 feet of Davis Buryflex (direct bury, feedline loss comparable to Belden 9213).  SWR is 1.5 or lower on 20 through 6 meters.


Don makes an interesting point about power supply voltage.  As I mentioned, it is 13.7 on receive and 13.1 with 100 watts output.  That is on 20 meters.  On 10 meters, it is 12.7 with 100 watts output.  By Don's figures, that is a possible problem.


I've got lots of receivers.  I tried listening to myself on a KWM-2, chosen because it's got vacuum tubes.  There is distortion at all power levels with the KXPA100, but no distortion with the barefoot KX3.  That argues against supply voltage being the sole cause, but there could be more than one.




I want to try one more thing: the Elecraft mike.  I've had RF problems with several other mikes and rigs, and I want to try a mike that I know is clean.  Unfortunately it has an 8-pin Yaesu cable, so I've ordered an adapter that plugs into the KX3.  When it comes, I'll post the results.


73 Ray W2RS








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Today's Topics:

   1. K3: Adjusting SSB modulation for proper PEP rating (Edward R Cole)
   2. Re: K3: Adjusting SSB modulation for proper PEP rating
      (Don Wilhelm)
   3. Re: WTB: Loaded KX3 (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
 4. Re: Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil!
      (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
   5. KXPA100 SSB Distortion ([hidden email])
   6. Re: KXPA100 SSB Distortion (Kurt Cramer)
   7. Re: KXPA100 SSB Distortion ([hidden email])
   8. Re: K3: Adjusting SSB modulation for proper PEP  rating
      (Edward R Cole)
   9. Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 168, Issue 25 (Frank)
  10. Re: KXPA100 SSB Distortion (Don Wilhelm)
  11.  KXPA100 SSB Distortion ([hidden email])
  12. Re: KXPA100 SSB Distortion (David Gilbert)
  13. Re: KXPA100 SSB Distortion (Don Wilhelm)
  14. KXPA100 SSB Distortion (James Wilson)
  15. KX3 (john daws)
  16. Re: KX3 (Don Wilhelm)
  17. PX3 Green Cursor Opacity (John_N1JM)
  18. PX3 Green Cursor Bar Color Inverting (John_N1JM)
  19. How do I change my email address? (Grady Harper)
  20. KAT500 memories (Harlan Sherriff)
  21. Re: KAT500 memories (Ken K6MR)
  22. Re: How do I change my email address? (Charlie T)
  23. Elecraft newsletter (John Gibson)
  24. Re: KAT500 memories (Don Wilhelm)
  25. Re: Elecraft newsletter (hawley, charles j jr)
  26. Re: Elecraft newsletter (hawley, charles j jr)
  27. Re: How do I change my email address? (Don Wilhelm)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 00:56:43 -0800
From: Edward R Cole <[hidden email]>
To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Adjusting SSB modulation for proper PEP rating
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Since the K3 operates so differently (than traditional radios) for
proper modulation I thought I'd ask this:
In olden days amplifiers were rated in PEP typically as 2x average
(or CW) power, so for AM one had to set carrier at 1/4 full carrier
output to stay linear. (1/2 carrier  for SSB).

But now I am setting up a 600w linear amp to run at P1 which is about
0.9 of P3 (saturated power) and wondering what level of carrier power
to run in SSB to stay linear and also not to overdrive and stress the
expensive LDMOS device in the amplifier.

I'm running the K3 in transverter mode on 28-MHz so max output is
1.5mw.  I can view this with a scope.  The amplifier is running at
1296-MHz which is too high a freq to monitor with my scope.  I can
only observe average RF power from a directional coupler and diode
detector (like a Bird meter).

Normally, I just set power on the K3 to drive my amp to nominal full
power and select SSB mode.  Modulation level is set by observing ALC
meter.  I is ALC showing five bars when saying the word "five" loudly
and six bars with compression.  So does this mean the K3
automatically adjusts RF power in SSB to stay linear with proper
modulation audio setting?

My reason is when running 1296 SSB to avoid overdriving the amplifier
into P3 possibly causing harm, as much as not wanting to produce
non-linear products.

73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Business mail:
   [hidden email]



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 06:52:06 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
To: Edward R Cole <[hidden email]>, Elecraft Reflector
        <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Adjusting SSB modulation for proper PEP
        rating
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Ed,

The power you request with the power knob is the PEP level that the K3
will control.  That is regardless of mode.
The K3 compensates for the mode automatically.

The same should be true of the transverter output.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/23/2018 4:56 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:

> Since the K3 operates so differently (than traditional radios) for
> proper modulation I thought I'd ask this:
> In olden days amplifiers were rated in PEP typically as 2x average (or
> CW) power, so for AM one had to set carrier at 1/4 full carrier output
> to stay linear. (1/2 carrier? for SSB).
>
> But now I am setting up a 600w linear amp to run at P1 which is about
> 0.9 of P3 (saturated power) and wondering what level of carrier power to
> run in SSB to stay linear and also not to overdrive and stress the
> expensive LDMOS device in the amplifier.
>
> I'm running the K3 in transverter mode on 28-MHz so max output is
> 1.5mw.? I can view this with a scope.? The amplifier is running at
> 1296-MHz which is too high a freq to monitor with my scope.? I can only
> observe average RF power from a directional coupler and diode detector
> (like a Bird meter).
>
> Normally, I just set power on the K3 to drive my amp to nominal full
> power and select SSB mode.? Modulation level is set by observing ALC
> meter.? I is ALC showing five bars when saying the word "five" loudly
> and six bars with compression.? So does this mean the K3 automatically
> adjusts RF power in SSB to stay linear with proper modulation audio
> setting?
>
> My reason is when running 1296 SSB to avoid overdriving the amplifier
> into P3 possibly causing harm, as much as not wanting to produce
> non-linear products.


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 05:58:47 -0700 (MST)
From: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WTB: Loaded KX3
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi all,

still looking for KX3 but...
I got several scamming emails upon my WTB post!
So be careful guys when you are looking for anything over the ham radio
classifieds lists worldwide!!!

73 - Petr, OK1RP



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 06:19:41 -0700
From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil!
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Folks, this thread was forcefully closed last week. Please, no more peanuts :-)

73,
Eric
Moderator etc.
elecraft.com
_..._

> On Apr 22, 2018, at 11:49 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 4/19/2018 1:34 PM, Tim N9PUZ wrote:
>> If packing material you don't happen to like is the worst thing that
>> happened to you today then it was a pretty fine day overall.
>
> Try chasing a big box full of packing peanuts that the wind has blown over 8 acres of mountainous ground and have the balls to repeat this comment.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 11:32:05 -0400
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SSB Distortion
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


My KXPA100 transmits distorted audio on SSB, but works normally on CW and RTTY.  With 100 watts output, drain current is 11.7 A and supply voltage is 13.1 V, down from 13.7 V on receive.  My power supply is a pre-MFJ Astron RS-35A.


The KX3 with which I drive it operates normally on all bands and modes, with good transmit audio.  Speech compression is off and mic gain is set to 20.


Should I send the amp back to Elecraft for service, or is there another problem?


73 Ray W2RS


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:58:26 -0700
From: Kurt Cramer <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SSB Distortion
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Does it work correctly into a dummy load. It sounds like RF in the audio,

73 Kurt W7QHD

> On Apr 23, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Ray W2RS via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> My KXPA100 transmits distorted audio on SSB, but works normally on CW and RTTY.  With 100 watts output, drain current is 11.7 A and supply voltage is 13.1 V, down from 13.7 V on receive.  My power supply is a pre-MFJ Astron RS-35A.
>
>
> The KX3 with which I drive it operates normally on all bands and modes, with good transmit audio.  Speech compression is off and mic gain is set to 20.
>
>
> Should I send the amp back to Elecraft for service, or is there another problem?
>
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:14:49 -0400
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SSB Distortion
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi Kurt,


It's hard to tell because the monitor plays the KX3 audio, which is good.


Tnx, Ray




-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Cramer <[hidden email]>
To: rsoifer1 <[hidden email]>
Cc: elecraft <[hidden email]>
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2018 8:58 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SSB Distortion

Does it work correctly into a dummy load. It sounds like RF in the audio,

73 Kurt W7QHD

> On Apr 23, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Ray W2RS via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> My KXPA100 transmits distorted audio on SSB, but works normally on CW and RTTY.  With 100 watts output, drain current is 11.7 A and supply voltage is 13.1 V, down from 13.7 V on receive.  My power supply is a pre-MFJ Astron RS-35A.
>
>
> The KX3 with which I drive it operates normally on all bands and modes, with good transmit audio.  Speech compression is off and mic gain is set to 20.
>
>
> Should I send the amp back to Elecraft for service, or is there another problem?
>
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:25:44 -0800
From: Edward R Cole <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email], Elecraft Reflector
        <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Adjusting SSB modulation for proper PEP
        rating
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed

Thanks, Don, as I suspected (kind of).

Of course in CW PEP=carrier power and makes
sense.  I never really *asked* this question
before as I always had nice reports on my
SSB.  Gives me confidence running my new
*expensive* LDMOS kilowatt amps on 144 and 1296
plus my old-school 16 NLA transistor Harris on
50-MHz when running SSB. Mostly run them "full
bore" with either CW or digital on eme, where PEP
is approx equal to carrier power.

The 144 and 1296 amps are new and not yet QRV
(but soon).  I will sell my 2m W6PO-8877 with
HVPS when this is accomplished.  Passing of an
era to "no-tube" operation which started 60 years ago with a DX-35 (6146).

73, Ed - KL7UW

At 02:52 AM 4/23/2018, Don Wilhelm wrote:

>Ed,
>
>The power you request with the power knob is the
>PEP level that the K3 will control.  That is regardless of mode.
>The K3 compensates for the mode automatically.
>
>The same should be true of the transverter output.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 4/23/2018 4:56 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>>Since the K3 operates so differently (than
>>traditional radios) for proper modulation I thought I'd ask this:
>>In olden days amplifiers were rated in PEP
>>typically as 2x average (or CW) power, so for
>>AM one had to set carrier at 1/4 full carrier
>>output to stay linear. (1/2 carrier?  for SSB).
>>But now I am setting up a 600w linear amp to
>>run at P1 which is about 0.9 of P3 (saturated
>>power) and wondering what level of carrier
>>power to run in SSB to stay linear and also not
>>to overdrive and stress the expensive LDMOS device in the amplifier.
>>I'm running the K3 in transverter mode on
>>28-MHz so max output is 1.5mw.?  I can view
>>this with a scope.?  The amplifier is running
>>at 1296-MHz which is too high a freq to monitor
>>with my scope.?  I can only observe average RF
>>power from a directional coupler and diode detector (like a Bird meter).
>>Normally, I just set power on the K3 to drive
>>my amp to nominal full power and select SSB
>>mode.?  Modulation level is set by observing
>>ALC meter.?  I is ALC showing five bars when
>>saying the word "five" loudly and six bars with
>>compression.?  So does this mean the K3
>>automatically adjusts RF power in SSB to stay
>>linear with proper modulation audio setting?
>>My reason is when running 1296 SSB to avoid
>>overdriving the amplifier into P3 possibly
>>causing harm, as much as not wanting to produce non-linear products.

73, Ed - KL7UW
   http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Business mail:
   [hidden email]



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 11:02:51 -0700
From: Frank <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 168, Issue 25
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

I spoke with Elecraft at the International DX Convention and it did not
sound promising that a kit version would be produced.? A kit is not
totally out of the question but due to burn in? and other issues the
question is can a kit be marketed at a lower price point that an
assembled amplifier.? At this point that does not seem possible.? If a
kit is not less money what is the point unless you just want the
building experience.
73,
Frank
K6FW

On 4/22/18 11:49 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Message: 22
> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 07:30:21 -0400
> From: "Charlie T"<[hidden email]>
> To:<[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Delivery Data Point
> Message-ID:<002001d3da2d$4faf7a40$ef0e6ec0$@erols.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Any word on a kit version?
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:27:27 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email], [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SSB Distortion
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Ray,

Do you have a dummy load and another receiver?  Borrow the receiver if
necessary.

You can't tell much by the KX3 monitor.
Connect the dummy load to the ANT jack and connect a short wire to the
other receiver.  Place that wire far enough away from the dummy load to
obtain about an S-9 signal.  Listen with headphones.

Transmit at several power levels.  How does the signal sound at each.
If it sounds OK on the dummy load, then look for RF in the shack to be
the problem.
OTOH, if it sounds distorted into the dummy load, contact elecraft
support - [hidden email]

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/23/2018 12:14 PM, Ray W2RS via Elecraft wrote:

> Hi Kurt,
>
>
> It's hard to tell because the monitor plays the KX3 audio, which is good.
>
>
> Tnx, Ray
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Cramer <[hidden email]>
> To: rsoifer1 <[hidden email]>
> Cc: elecraft <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2018 8:58 am
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SSB Distortion
>
> Does it work correctly into a dummy load. It sounds like RF in the audio,
>
> 73 Kurt W7QHD
>> On Apr 23, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Ray W2RS via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> My KXPA100 transmits distorted audio on SSB, but works normally on CW and RTTY.  With 100 watts output, drain current is 11.7 A and supply voltage is 13.1 V, down from 13.7 V on receive.  My power supply is a pre-MFJ Astron RS-35A.
>>
>>
>> The KX3 with which I drive it operates normally on all bands and modes, with good transmit audio.  Speech compression is off and mic gain is set to 20.
>>
>>
>> Should I send the amp back to Elecraft for service, or is there another problem?
>>
>>
>> 73 Ray W2RS
>> ______________________________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:39:51 -0400
From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft]  KXPA100 SSB Distortion
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8

Can you describe your antenna(s) and feedline?

John KK9A


Ray W2RS wrote:

My KXPA100 transmits distorted audio on SSB, but works normally on CW and
RTTY.  With 100 watts output, drain current is 11.7 A and supply voltage
is 13.1 V, down from 13.7 V on receive.  My power supply is a pre-MFJ
Astron RS-35A.


The KX3 with which I drive it operates normally on all bands and modes,
with good transmit audio.  Speech compression is off and mic gain is set
to 20.


Should I send the amp back to Elecraft for service, or is there another
problem?


73 Ray W2RS



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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:48:24 -0700
From: David Gilbert <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SSB Distortion
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


I also had some distorted audio reports on my transmitted SSB signal
when I first got my K3.? I finally narrowed it down to the fact that I
had it connected to my computer (RS-232 for sure and I might have been
feeding the receive audio into the computer sound card as well).?? I
made a K3 chassis to computer chassis bonding strap using some RG-8
braided shield.? I started out with the strap being about three feet
long and kept shortening it until the distortion totally went away at
about 12 inches long (verified using a second battery powered rig to
listen to my own signal).

So the first thing I would do is make sure all of your gear adheres to
proper bonding practice.

73,
Dave?? AB7E



> Ray W2RS wrote:
>
> My KXPA100 transmits distorted audio on SSB, but works normally on CW and
> RTTY.  With 100 watts output, drain current is 11.7 A and supply voltage
> is 13.1 V, down from 13.7 V on receive.  My power supply is a pre-MFJ
> Astron RS-35A.
>
>
> The KX3 with which I drive it operates normally on all bands and modes,
> with good transmit audio.  Speech compression is off and mic gain is set
> to 20.
>
>
> Should I send the amp back to Elecraft for service, or is there another
> problem?
>
>
> 73 Ray W2RS



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:59:57 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email], [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SSB Distortion
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Ray,

Do you have a dummy load and another receiver?  If so, connect the dummy
load to the KXPA100 and put a short antenna wire on the other receiver.
Transmit, and adjust the distance between the dummy load and the other
receiver "antenna" to produce an S-9 signal.
Does the KXPA100 produce a distorted signal?
If not, then look carefully at your antenna system - the likely problem
is RF-in-the-shack.

OTOH, if the KXPA100 output is distorted working into the dummy load,
you should contact [hidden email] with those facts.

One thing that can cause some distortion is low power supply voltage to
the KXPA100.  That voltage should be at least 13.8 volts during receive
and drop to no less than 13.2 during transmit at 100 watts.  Low voltage
during transmit can cause increase IMD (distortion).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/23/2018 11:32 AM, Ray W2RS via Elecraft wrote:
>
> My KXPA100 transmits distorted audio on SSB, but works normally on CW and RTTY.  With 100 watts output, drain current is 11.7 A and supply voltage is 13.1 V, down from 13.7 V on receive.  My power supply is a pre-MFJ Astron RS-35A.
>


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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:09:33 -0500
From: James Wilson <[hidden email]>
To: Elecraft <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 SSB Distortion
Message-ID:
        <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Don Wilhelm's advice on this is "spot on" For the Elecraft
or any transceiver, get back to basics and do your testing..
Eliminate all connections to computers or other stuff.  Check
out the radio - then when all is well - add back the other things.

A dummy load can be a ham's best friend.

Jim - W4RKS


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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:03:59 +0100
From: john daws <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3
Message-ID:
        <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

(not sure if this is the same as using the KX3 users group but here goes)

Would appreciate advice on the use of the* notch filter* on my KX3

It is fitted with* KX3FL3* roofing filters. I only use CW

Once I have spotted a weak signal I can  use these to narrow down and
filter out unwanted noise on the chosen signal

I can also apply the APF filter and tune that way.

Recent advice suggested that the APF function  works best when when used
with a  DSP/crystal filter WIDTH setting of 300-500 Hz

Does this mean I switch on the Notch and tune to this range on the notch
setting and how does this work with the bandwidth settings on the PBT
function?

Do I leave the notch on whilst tuning for other signals or only use it when
I have a weak signal in the first place.

Trial and error has left me doubtful whether I am getting the best out of
this function.

Any advice most welcome.

Thanks

john M6KET


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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 07:39:51 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
To: john daws <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

John,

This reflector covers all Elecraft products.

The notch filter is only used to notch out an *unwanted* signal - use it
carefully since you can easily notch out the signal that you are trying
to receive.

First use the DSP filter to home in on the wanted signal - the PBT knob.
  The roofing filter will follow along with the width of the DSP passband.

Once you get the wanted signal, you can optionally use APF if it is of
benefit.

If there is an unwanted signal within the passband, you can use NOTCH to
reduce it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/24/2018 6:03 AM, john daws wrote:

> (not sure if this is the same as using the KX3 users group but here goes)
>
> Would appreciate advice on the use of the* notch filter* on my KX3
>
> It is fitted with* KX3FL3* roofing filters. I only use CW
>
> Once I have spotted a weak signal I can  use these to narrow down and
> filter out unwanted noise on the chosen signal
>
> I can also apply the APF filter and tune that way.
>
> Recent advice suggested that the APF function  works best when when used
> with a  DSP/crystal filter WIDTH setting of 300-500 Hz
>
> Does this mean I switch on the Notch and tune to this range on the notch
> setting and how does this work with the bandwidth settings on the PBT
> function?
>
> Do I leave the notch on whilst tuning for other signals or only use it when
> I have a weak signal in the first place.
>
> Trial and error has left me doubtful whether I am getting the best out of
> this function.


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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:04:31 -0700 (MST)
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Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Green Cursor Opacity
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The green VFO A cursor seems very bright in comparison to my P3. I don't see
any way to adjust opacity but it would be nice to be able to do that. The
purple VFO B cursor is about right.

73, John N1JM



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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:09:39 -0700 (MST)
From: John_N1JM <[hidden email]>
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Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Green Cursor Bar Color Inverting
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On some spans and some bands the VFO A Green cursor bar will invert color -
looks like black bar with green  lines. There is probably a quick fix for
that. Haven't found it yet.

73, John N1JM



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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:04:27 -0400
From: Grady Harper <[hidden email]>
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I'm closing the email account I use for this group.  How do I change the email address for this group.
Thanks.
 AJ4YA
Grady

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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:07:23 -0400
From: Harlan Sherriff <[hidden email]>
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I understand the tuner holds tune data in memories for quicker tuning when changing frequencies, and it stores separate data for each antenna port. My question is, how many data points can these memories hold? In other words, how many frequencies per band per antenna can it hold?

Harlan
K4HES

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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:18:07 +0000
From: Ken K6MR <[hidden email]>
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Page 15 of the owner?s manual has a table of the segment width vs. frequency.  So in answer to your question: ?It depends?



Ken K6MR



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I understand the tuner holds tune data in memories for quicker tuning when changing frequencies, and it stores separate data for each antenna port. My question is, how many data points can these memories hold? In other words, how many frequencies per band per antenna can it hold?

Harlan
K4HES

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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:22:47 -0400
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Are an ARRL member?
They offer a very handy email relay service free to members.
As far as everyone is concerned, you email address is YOURCALL@ARRL,net.

73, Charlie k3ICH


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I'm closing the email account I use for this group.  How do I change the
email address for this group.
Thanks.
 AJ4YA
Grady

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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:25:47 +0000
From: John Gibson <[hidden email]>
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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft newsletter
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How do I sign up to receive the Elecraft newsletter? And where do I find back issues?

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John, no8v

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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:24:23 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
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Harlan,

There are enough to store data for each band segment in the 160m thru 6m
bands.  Page 15 of the KAT500 manual shows the width of each band segments:
? Below 3 MHz the segments are 10 kHz wide.
? From 3 MHz through 26 MHz the segments are 20 kHz wide.
? From 26 MHz to 38 MHz the segments are 100 kHz wide.
? From 38 MHz to 60 MHz the segments are 200 kHz wide.

You are not likely to run out of memories.

73,
Don W3FPR

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> I understand the tuner holds tune data in memories for quicker tuning when changing frequencies, and it stores separate data for each antenna port. My question is, how many data points can these memories hold? In other words, how many frequencies per band per antenna can it hold?


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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:38:52 +0000
From: "hawley, charles j jr" <[hidden email]>
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http://elecraft.us13.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ade3f9ea0defe0990b07b5b70&id=cb703a5c71

Chuck KE9UW
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How do I sign up to receive the Elecraft newsletter? And where do I find back issues?

Thank you and 73,

John, no8v
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:40:39 +0000
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Past issues...
https://mailchi.mp/elecraft/april-newsletter?e=a370946e09

Chuck KE9UW
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Message: 27
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:43:26 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
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Grady,

The easiest way is to go to the Elecraft website and click on "eMail
List" on the top banner.  From there you can click on the like to
"Subscribe or change your subscription ..."

73,
Don W3FPR

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> I'm closing the email account I use for this group.  How do I change the email address for this group.
> Thanks.
>   AJ4YA
> Grady


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