Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 177, Issue 46

[Lee Broestl]

To answer the call of Mac users running macOS 10.13 or above. I’m running High Sierra (10.13.6) for both Cocoamodem & RUMlogNG using a Macbook Pro laptop, Early 2011, with i7 processor.  It’s revved up with 16 GB of RAM & 500 GB Solid State Drive.  NO troubles/No worries.  

Lee - AA5LH

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>   1. K3: trade 1.8khz filter for a 2.1khz filter (RVZ)
>   2. Re: Last Click Serial Port (Don Wilhelm)
>   3. CM500 Mic ? (Paul Ecker)
>   4. Re: CM500 Mic ? (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>   5. Re: CM500 Mic ? (Don Wilhelm)
>   6. Re: CM500 Mic ? (Paul Ecker)
>   7. Re: CM500 Mic ? (Walter Underwood)
>   8. Re: CM500 Mic ? (Walter Underwood)
>   9. Re: CM500 Mic ? (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>  10. KX3/PX3/KXPA100 + accessories for sale (David Orman)
>  11. Looking for ELECRAFT KBPF3A for my K3s (Graziano Roccon (IW2NOY))
>  12. Re: CM500 Mic ? (Mike - W5JR)
>  13. Re: CM500 Mic ? (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>  14. FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized (link
>      attached) (Jim N7US)
>  15. Re: FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized
>      (linkattached) (Jamie WW3S)
>  16. Re: CM500 Mic ? ([hidden email])
>  17. KAT500 Utility Operate -> Memorize (Kevin der Kinderen)
>  18. Re: CM500 Mic ? (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>  19. Re: KAT500 Utility Operate -> Memorize (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>  20. Re: CM500 Mic ? (Nr4c)
>  21. WTB K2 (Madison Jones)
>  22. Re: KAT500 Utility Operate -> Memorize (Dick Dievendorff)
>  23. Re: Best Mac to use with KX3 (Walter Underwood)
>  24. Re: Best Mac to use with KX3 (Jack Brindle)
>  25. Re: Best Mac to use with KX3 ([hidden email])
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:53:41 +0000 (UTC)
> From: RVZ <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3: trade 1.8khz filter for a 2.1khz filter
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> I have a 1.8khz SSB filter in excellent condition that I'd like to trade for a 2.1khz filter.? Would anyone like to trade?
> 73,
> Dick- [hidden email]??
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:33:07 -0500
> From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Last Click Serial Port
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Mike and all,
>
> That is my experience with RJ45 plugs as well.  Rather than just pushing
> on the 'boot', it is helpful to pull the boot back a bit and push on the
> connector body itself, then slide the boot back in place.  That is true
> not only for the K3S RJ-45 connector, but any RJ-45 in my wired ethernet
> network.  Listen for that final click.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 1/27/2019 10:00 AM, Mike Greenway wrote:
>> Since I have incurred a situation at lest 3 times on my K3S, since it might help someone I thought I would share some info.  On occasion I need to un-cable the K3S when working an something and like a fool thinking when I put it all back together it is going to work first time.  I do have everything labeled so I do get everything into the right connector.  The problem I have had to arise several times, once everything is ready to check the, the RS232 serial port will not communicate.
>>
>> After a lot of work each time it has turned out to be that the RJ45 connector for the RS232 jack, even though what appeared to be fully plugged in, pushing on it there would be a faint ?click? signifying it is truly fully seated.  From where I thought I had it fully plugged in to actually being full could not have been a 64th of an inch if that. Not even sure if there is any further travel I just hear the faint click.  So if you use the RJ45, even though the RJ45 appears to be in fully, if you have com port communication problems to your computer or cant talk to your P3, see if you hear that faint ?last click? in the RJ45.  It is not just my particular K3S, I have seen the same situation on a second one.  73 Mike K4PI
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:26:48 -0500
> From: Paul Ecker <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
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> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>
> 73
> Paul
> w2eck
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:30:55 -0600
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
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> I recall that it is Electrect.? Should plug in direct on the back panel
> of the radio.? Just turn on the BIAS.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>> On 1/28/2019 1:26 PM, Paul Ecker wrote:
>> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>>
>> 73
>> Paul
>> w2eck
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:33:20 -0500
> From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
> To: Paul Ecker <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
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> Paul,
>
> While I have seen ads saying it has a dynamic element, that is not the
> case - it is an electret type.
>
> I believe it was designed to be a microphone you could plug into a
> computer, and all of those are electret types.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
>> On 1/28/2019 2:26 PM, Paul Ecker wrote:
>> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:44:17 -0500
> From: Paul Ecker <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
> Message-ID:
>    <CAJDGaPMz6rJXUK++kSe=[hidden email]>
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>
> Don - thank you. That was exactly the reason I wanted to double check. I
> saw an ad on the internet saying dynamic.
>
> Tnx agn & 73
> Paul
> w2eck
>
>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:33 PM Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> While I have seen ads saying it has a dynamic element, that is not the
>> case - it is an electret type.
>>
>> I believe it was designed to be a microphone you could plug into a
>> computer, and all of those are electret types.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>
>>> On 1/28/2019 2:26 PM, Paul Ecker wrote:
>>> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:52:04 -0800
> From: Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> The published docs on the CM500 are a mess, but it is an electret. It even comes with a battery pack so you can use it with non-powered mic jacks.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Paul Ecker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Don - thank you. That was exactly the reason I wanted to double check. I
>> saw an ad on the internet saying dynamic.
>>
>> Tnx agn & 73
>> Paul
>> w2eck
>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:33 PM Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> While I have seen ads saying it has a dynamic element, that is not the
>>> case - it is an electret type.
>>>
>>> I believe it was designed to be a microphone you could plug into a
>>> computer, and all of those are electret types.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 1/28/2019 2:26 PM, Paul Ecker wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>>>>
>>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:57:09 -0800
> From: Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> If you are using a KX2 or KX3, you?ll get logic bias as well as mic bias on the CM500 mic. If you separate out the mic bias, you?ll get more and cleaner output. A stereo to L/R splitter will do that job, plus it breaks out the PTT line. I wrote that up on my blog.
>
> https://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/08/16/yamaha-cm500-headset-with-ptt-on-elecraft-kx3/ <https://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/08/16/yamaha-cm500-headset-with-ptt-on-elecraft-kx3/>
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The published docs on the CM500 are a mess, but it is an electret. It even comes with a battery pack so you can use it with non-powered mic jacks.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Paul Ecker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don - thank you. That was exactly the reason I wanted to double check. I
>>> saw an ad on the internet saying dynamic.
>>>
>>> Tnx agn & 73
>>> Paul
>>> w2eck
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:33 PM Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>>
>>>> While I have seen ads saying it has a dynamic element, that is not the
>>>> case - it is an electret type.
>>>>
>>>> I believe it was designed to be a microphone you could plug into a
>>>> computer, and all of those are electret types.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/28/2019 2:26 PM, Paul Ecker wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>>>>>
>>>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:59:05 -0600
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Just goes to show, one can't believe what they read on the internet.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>
>
>> On 1/28/2019 1:52 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
>> The published docs on the CM500 are a mess, but it is an electret. It even comes with a battery pack so you can use it with non-powered mic jacks.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Paul Ecker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don - thank you. That was exactly the reason I wanted to double check. I
>>> saw an ad on the internet saying dynamic.
>>>
>>> Tnx agn & 73
>>> Paul
>>> w2eck
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:33 PM Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>>
>>>> While I have seen ads saying it has a dynamic element, that is not the
>>>> case - it is an electret type.
>>>>
>>>> I believe it was designed to be a microphone you could plug into a
>>>> computer, and all of those are electret types.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/28/2019 2:26 PM, Paul Ecker wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>>>>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:25:15 -0600
> From: David Orman <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3/PX3/KXPA100 + accessories for sale
> Message-ID:
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> Hi,
>
> I have a KX3/PX3/KXPA100 combination I'd like to sell. I am the original
> owner, and purchased all of the above in 8/2014. The KX3/PX3 was purchased
> factory assembled, the KXPA100 was purchased as a kit, and assembled by me.
> The KX3 is fully loaded, as you will see below, to include the 2m option.
>
> All of the equipment is in excellent condition, and the PX3/KX3 have the
> Side-KX options installed, including the plastic covers. The covers are in
> good shape, with minor scratching as to be expected from plastic covers.
> Photos are included below, with covers off/on.
>
> In the interest of full disclosure, while performing the suggested
> capacitor modification to improve the power-on delay on the PX3 (as guided
> by Elecraft) a solder pad pulled up. This was repaired with a solder bridge
> to the new capacitor in question, and the unit has functioned perfectly
> since this time (April 2017). I am adjusting the requested price
> accordingly, even though there is no impact to the performance or
> functionality of this unit (and the power on delay is significantly
> improved!)
>
> I have included a video in the link below so you can see the PX3/KX3/KXPA100
> functioning. I also adjust ref/scale and move around the band both via
> radio and via PX3 in the video, so you can see it is functioning as
> expected.
>
> Everything else is exactly as delivered from Elecraft, and functioning
> properly. The KX3 has had the full set of calibration performed on it, to
> include extended temperature compensation, nulling, and filters, as I have
> a bench of test equipment including a GPSDO locked signal generator.
>
> Here's what I'm including, and current list pricing:
>
> MH3 Hand Mic. for KX3
> $59.95
>
> KXFL3 Dual-Passband Roofing Filter
> $149.95
>
> KXAT3 ATU for the KX3
> $199.95
>
> KXPD3 Precision Keyer Paddle
> $129.95
>
> KXBC3 Int. NiMH Charger/Clk for KX3
> $79.95
>
> KX3-2M-AT 2M All-Mode Internal KX3 Option
> $259.95
>
> KXPACBL KX3 to KXPA100 Adapt. Cable
> $49.95
>
> KXPA100-K 100 W External Amplifier - Kit
> $749.95
>
> KXAT100 Internal ATU for KXPA100
> $379.95
>
> KX3-F 160-6 M Xcvrr Assm
> $1,049.95
>
> PX3-F Panadapter for KX3 - Factory Assembled
> $599.95
>
> XG50 Simple 49.380 MHz Signal Source
> $39.95
>
> SUBTOTAL $3,749.40
>
> Keep in mind this subtotal does not include the Side-KX sides/covers. I am
> also including the original sides for PX3/KX3 in case you wish to use them
> instead. I do have the upgrade board for the paddle, as well, as well as
> various tools/parts for the accessories. I am also including a few KXUSB
> cables which currently list for $32.95. I'll also throw in the 2m antenna
> seen attached to the radio in the photos.
>
> KX3 serial number is 6755, PX3 is 0630, and KXPA100 is 1218.
>
> -------------------
>
> I'm willing to sell the whole package for $2800 OBO.
>
> My reason for selling is simple, I've moved to a pure desktop setup as I've
> not found myself working remote as I had anticipated.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/g6rqVoXqF8i1FnL63 has photos and the video
> showing operation, after which all were stored.
>
> I live in San Antonio, TX and would prefer to arrange for local (you can
> check it out in person) or regional pickup (happy to meet half-way). I have
> batteries, so if meeting elsewhere, we can turn it all on so you can verify
> operation if desired.
>
> My call-sign is K5DJO, name is David Orman, please respond directly to my
> email ( [hidden email] ) and I'll pass you the rest of my contact
> information so we can discuss via phone if you'd like! I can provide
> additional photos/videos if requested.
>
> Respectfully,
> David Orman / K5DJO
>
>
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>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 22:55:09 +0100
> From: "Graziano Roccon (IW2NOY)" <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Looking for ELECRAFT KBPF3A for my K3s
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Hello,
>
> i am looking for a Elecraft KBPF3A for my K3s.
> If anyone want to sell it or know someone that want to sell it, please
> let me know.
> I would prefer in Italy or Europe, USA become too expensive for customs
> and shipment costs.
>
> Thanks a lot, Graziano IW2NOY
>
>
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:07:28 -0500
> From: Mike - W5JR <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
>
> That explains where that battery pack came from!! I?d forgotten how I had acquired the adapter.
>
> tnx
> Mike / W5JR
> Alpharetta GA
>
>
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The published docs on the CM500 are a mess, but it is an electret. It even comes with a battery pack so you can use it with non-powered mic jacks.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Paul Ecker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don - thank you. That was exactly the reason I wanted to double check. I
>>> saw an ad on the internet saying dynamic.
>>>
>>> Tnx agn & 73
>>> Paul
>>> w2eck
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:33 PM Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>>
>>>> While I have seen ads saying it has a dynamic element, that is not the
>>>> case - it is an electret type.
>>>>
>>>> I believe it was designed to be a microphone you could plug into a
>>>> computer, and all of those are electret types.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/28/2019 2:26 PM, Paul Ecker wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>>>>>
>>>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:34:30 -0600
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
> To: Mike - W5JR <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Yes I always find it interesting they include a battery pak but say it's dynamic.   Most all of the descriptions I've seen indicate it is a dynamic mike.  No it's an Electrect element.
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Mike - W5JR <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> That explains where that battery pack came from!! I?d forgotten how I had acquired the adapter.
>>
>> tnx
>> Mike / W5JR
>> Alpharetta GA
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The published docs on the CM500 are a mess, but it is an electret. It even comes with a battery pack so you can use it with non-powered mic jacks.
>>>
>>> wunder
>>> K6WRU
>>> Walter Underwood
>>> CM87wj
>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>>
>>>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Paul Ecker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Don - thank you. That was exactly the reason I wanted to double check. I
>>>> saw an ad on the internet saying dynamic.
>>>>
>>>> Tnx agn & 73
>>>> Paul
>>>> w2eck
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:33 PM Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> While I have seen ads saying it has a dynamic element, that is not the
>>>>> case - it is an electret type.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe it was designed to be a microphone you could plug into a
>>>>> computer, and all of those are electret types.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/28/2019 2:26 PM, Paul Ecker wrote:
>>>>>> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 19:18:43 -0600
> From: "Jim N7US" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized
>    (link    attached)
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> I'd be interested in seeing a similar comparison of the K3S to the
> FlexRadio.
>
> Jim N7US
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> My two cents:
>
>
>> Rob wrote:
>>
>> I would count the order differently if numbering is of interest.  The
> radio at #1 cannot be reproduced with current software.
>
> Clarified recently in footnote "y" of the RX performance table.
>
>
>> That makes the K3S #1 and the 7610 #9 if you want to count for some
> reason. The difference in 2 kHz dynamic range is 106 dB compared to 98 dB.
>
> The table is sorted on 2 kHz IMDDR3. However, the table also shows dramatic
> differences in blocking dynamic range. For example, the K3S is 20 to 30 dB
> stronger in this regard than all of the direct-sampling radios in the table.
> This is due to the K3S having narrow-band filtering (crystal filters) ahead
> of the ADC. This can greatly reduce desense and other artifacts in any
> high-signal situation (Field Day, KW neighbor, multi-TX station, etc.).
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 20:27:30 -0500
> From: "Jamie WW3S" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>,    "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table
>    finalized    (linkattached)
> Message-ID: <66642576F27B436291BC26177589B7D1@ww3s>
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>
> and that was my real life experience in last weekends 160 contest....I felt
> the 7610 could hear just a bit better than the K3, especially those ESP
> signals right at the noise.....I worked several DX I wouldn?t have with the
> K3.....BUT.......in crowded condx, the 7610 thumped and pumped when someone
> was close to my passband, even with a 200 hz filter enabled. I didn?t get
> any of that with the K3, its front end is like a brick wall......to be fair,
> I had the noise blanker enabled on the 7610, which some comments post
> contest said that could be some of the thumping I experienced.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim N7US
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:18 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized
> (linkattached)
>
> I'd be interested in seeing a similar comparison of the K3S to the
> FlexRadio.
>
> Jim N7US
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> My two cents:
>
>
>> Rob wrote:
>>
>> I would count the order differently if numbering is of interest.  The
> radio at #1 cannot be reproduced with current software.
>
> Clarified recently in footnote "y" of the RX performance table.
>
>
>> That makes the K3S #1 and the 7610 #9 if you want to count for some
> reason. The difference in 2 kHz dynamic range is 106 dB compared to 98 dB.
>
> The table is sorted on 2 kHz IMDDR3. However, the table also shows dramatic
> differences in blocking dynamic range. For example, the K3S is 20 to 30 dB
> stronger in this regard than all of the direct-sampling radios in the table.
> This is due to the K3S having narrow-band filtering (crystal filters) ahead
> of the ADC. This can greatly reduce desense and other artifacts in any
> high-signal situation (Field Day, KW neighbor, multi-TX station, etc.).
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:19:58 -0500
> From: <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
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> The manufacture says it is a sensitive electric microphone:
> https://usa.yamaha.com/products/music_production/accessories/cm500/index.htm
> l
>
> So does Amazon:
> https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-CM500-Headset-Built-Microphone/dp/B000BZ6ZX0/r
> ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1548727771&sr=8-1&keywords=yamaha+cm500
>
> Perhaps that translates to Electret:)
>
> John KK9A
>
>
>
> Paul Ecker W2ECK wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>
> 73
> Paul
> w2eck
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> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:29:50 -0500
> From: Kevin der Kinderen <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility Operate -> Memorize
> Message-ID:
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> How exactly does the Memorize button work in the Operate tab of the KAT500
> utility. Is it an on/off global or do I have to hit it each time the tuner
> tunes a new frequency?
>
> 73,
> Kevin K4VD
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 20:41:02 -0600
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Yes but......when one looks at the SPECS? one will see "Microphone
> Type:??? Dynamic".??? I guess one could consider that to be "electric".
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>> On 1/28/2019 8:19 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> The manufacture says it is a sensitive electric microphone:
>> https://usa.yamaha.com/products/music_production/accessories/cm500/index.htm
>> l
>>
>> So does Amazon:
>> https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-CM500-Headset-Built-Microphone/dp/B000BZ6ZX0/r
>> ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1548727771&sr=8-1&keywords=yamaha+cm500
>>
>> Perhaps that translates to Electret:)
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Ecker W2ECK wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>>
>> 73
>> Paul
>> w2eck
>>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 20:50:14 -0600
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility Operate -> Memorize
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> The tuner will memorize the antenna selection and matching elements
> every time it tunes.
>
> As to the Utility, what ever you change in the Utility will be be sent
> to the tuner when Memorize is selected.?? ? Not it is not necessary to
> hit Memorize every time the tuner resolves a match.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>> On 1/28/2019 8:29 PM, Kevin der Kinderen wrote:
>> How exactly does the Memorize button work in the Operate tab of the KAT500
>> utility. Is it an on/off global or do I have to hit it each time the tuner
>> tunes a new frequency?
>>
>> 73,
>> Kevin K4VD
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:56:20 -0500
> From: Nr4c <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email], [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic ?
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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>
> The packaging used to say ?Dynamic? mic. But it?s not. It?s an electret.
>
> And it comes with a small battery box to provide the bias when using with radios that don?t provide bias on the audio jack.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 9:19 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The manufacture says it is a sensitive electric microphone:
>> https://usa.yamaha.com/products/music_production/accessories/cm500/index.htm
>> l
>>
>> So does Amazon:
>> https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-CM500-Headset-Built-Microphone/dp/B000BZ6ZX0/r
>> ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1548727771&sr=8-1&keywords=yamaha+cm500
>>
>> Perhaps that translates to Electret:)
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Ecker W2ECK wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if the CM500 has a Electret or Dynamic mic?
>>
>> 73
>> Paul
>> w2eck
>>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 22:06:15 -0600
> From: Madison Jones <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] WTB K2
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> Anyone have a K2 for sale? Contact me off list at [hidden email].
>
> Madison Jones
> W5MJ
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> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 22:23:39 -0600
> From: Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]>
> To: Kevin der Kinderen <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility Operate -> Memorize
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> See KAT500 Utility help.
>
> ATU settings found by tune are stored without pressing the button.  If you create an atu setting yourself, using the radio buttons for inductors and capacitors, you can save it with that button.
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 20:29, Kevin der Kinderen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> How exactly does the Memorize button work in the Operate tab of the KAT500
>> utility. Is it an on/off global or do I have to hit it each time the tuner
>> tunes a new frequency?
>>
>> 73,
>> Kevin K4VD
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> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 20:30:17 -0800
> From: Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Discussion List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Best Mac to use with KX3
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> The only program that requires significant CPU is WSJT-X, for JT65 and FT8. The fldigi program might needs more CPU for some modes, but I?ve never noticed it. Macs usually have very high performance hardware for the year when they are released. I would expect any Mac from the last five years or so to work fine.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:59 AM, Dave Sublette <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I use a mac mini running Parallels and Windows 7/64bit. It works very
>> well.  I would think any .odel mac would do the job.
>>
>> Dave,  K4TO
>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 11:51 PM Don Wilhelm <[hidden email] wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> The only software application specifically for the KX3 is KX3 Utility
>>> which takes very little of the computer resources.
>>>
>>> Perhaps a better question is -- "What processing capability is required
>>> for the software applications that I want to run?"
>>>
>>> That will determine how powerful a computer you will need - Mac or other
>>> OS.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>>> On 1/27/2019 12:08 PM, Steve Grimaud (Gmail) wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to find a good new or used Macbook or Mac mini to begin using
>>>> with my KX3. I had used a PC with ASUS Xonar U7 and/or Signalink USB.
>>>> What will I need to keep, drop or use in a different way to get a Mac
>>>> unit working with my KX3? I'm especially interested in digital signals.
>>>> Who here knows what works best.
>>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>
>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:59:24 -0800
> From: Jack Brindle <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Discussion List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Best Mac to use with KX3
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> WSJT-X runs just fine on my 2010 Mac mini with a core-2 duo processor. Almost every Mac that runs an Intel processor has at least a Core-2 Duo (the exception being the very first Intel iMac that used a single core Core-2 processor).
> I would not want to use a Mac with a sub 2 GHz processor - the low end MacBook Air and last generation low-end mini come to mind here. Everything else should be prime for a shack computer.
>
> If you plan on running VMware Fusion, Parallels or VirtualBox you want a powerful Mac with at least two cores, the more the better. Give the Mac at least one of those and Windows as many as you can. You don?t want to starve either OS since both are running simultaneously.
> My choice at this time to replace my shack mini (which is constrained to El Capitan) will be a 6-Core i7 mini with 16GB or Ram (don?t scrimp here) and 1TB of flash disk. It will last a long time, so putting extra money into it up front is a good thing. If Apple were to release an 8-Core i9 version of the mini that would be my choice instead?
> On the laptop side, my choice was a 15? MacBook Pro with 4-core i7, 16GB memory and 500GB flash. Again, don?t scrimp. If it follows the pattern of my last MacBook Pro, this baby will last me eight years or so (the old one, constrained to El Capitan is still in use as a server).    
>
> Basically, get as much horsepower as you can afford. That means lots of cores in the processor, lots of RAM, and a reasonable amount of flash. 256GB is a minimum here. Macs last a long time, so you are making an investment for the long term.
>
> Good luck and enjoy your Mac!
>
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 8:30 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The only program that requires significant CPU is WSJT-X, for JT65 and FT8. The fldigi program might needs more CPU for some modes, but I?ve never noticed it. Macs usually have very high performance hardware for the year when they are released. I would expect any Mac from the last five years or so to work fine.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:59 AM, Dave Sublette <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I use a mac mini running Parallels and Windows 7/64bit. It works very
>>> well.  I would think any .odel mac would do the job.
>>>
>>> Dave,  K4TO
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 11:51 PM Don Wilhelm <[hidden email] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Steve,
>>>>
>>>> The only software application specifically for the KX3 is KX3 Utility
>>>> which takes very little of the computer resources.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps a better question is -- "What processing capability is required
>>>> for the software applications that I want to run?"
>>>>
>>>> That will determine how powerful a computer you will need - Mac or other
>>>> OS.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/27/2019 12:08 PM, Steve Grimaud (Gmail) wrote:
>>>>> I'm trying to find a good new or used Macbook or Mac mini to begin using
>>>>> with my KX3. I had used a PC with ASUS Xonar U7 and/or Signalink USB.
>>>>> What will I need to keep, drop or use in a different way to get a Mac
>>>>> unit working with my KX3? I'm especially interested in digital signals.
>>>>> Who here knows what works best.
>>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
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> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 22:45:53 -0800
> From: [hidden email]
> To: Elecraft Discussion List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Best Mac to use with KX3
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> If one wants to use cocoaModem for RTTY, PSK or the other modes it supports, note that it runs fine under Mac OS 10.12 and has been reported to run under Mac OS 10.13 (I personally haven't tried it.)
>
> cocoaModem is a 32 bit program and possibly won't run under OS 10.14 and above that might require programs to be 64 bit. As of 9-24-2018 see:
>
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208436 <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208436>
>
> About this Mac > System Reports > Software > Applications will show which programs loaded on the machine are 64 bit compatible.
>
> The source code is available for cocoaModem but the developer hasn't supported the program in quite some time.
>
> Macs as supplied with OS 10.14 and above could have a problem with cocoaModem - which is an excellent program for dual receive split RTTY operation.
>
> So it's more than just which Mac to get, it's will the machine run the applications you want to run.
>
> If anyone has run cocoaModem under 10.13 or 10.14 please report.
>
> 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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