Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 18, Issues 6 & 7

[Kenneth A Johnson]

webmaster: I accidently deleted issues 6 & 7. Would you please re-send them
to me? TNX, Ken WA4GHY


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>    1. N1IH, please contact me (W3FPR - Don Wilhelm)
>    2. Top Posting (ps030805)
>    3. K7C - Bagged Him (Mark Saunders, KJ7BS)
>    4. RE: Top Posting (W3FPR - Don Wilhelm)
>    5. Side-posting With Tongue-in-Cheek (Paul Saville)
>    6. Re: Top Posting (Fred Jensen)
>    7. RE: Top Posting (Paul T. Rubin)
>    8. Re: Top Posting (Ian Stirling)
>    9. Re: Antenna Modelling software (Dave Sergeant)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 23:21:26 -0400
> From: "W3FPR - Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] N1IH, please contact me
> To: "Elecraft reflector" <[hidden email]>
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> Sorry for the bandwidth folks ---
>
> Greg (N1IH),
>
> Please change your email client ot accept international characters and
> re-contact me.  My posts to you are bouncing because you are rejecting
> e-mail in non-Western character sets.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:47:07 +1300
> From: ps030805 <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Top Posting
> To: [hidden email]
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>
> Perhaps we could compromise           > A very good point!
> Not only
> and _side_ post, but only on          > removing the
> unneccessary parts
> the _left_side_. It's actually        > of a message you
> reply to is
> quite fun, and you can read the       > important, it is
> also very
> original message with your right      > important NOT to
> reply _atop_
> eye, while simultaneously reading     > the original message
> but _below_
> the reply with your left eye,         > it. It's much easier
> to read the
> provided you have both eyes open!     > message when proper
> quiting was
> 73, Paul                              > used, even if one
> didn't follow
>                                       > the thread closely.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:49:18 -0700
> From: "Mark Saunders, KJ7BS" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K7C - Bagged Him
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
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> I finally bagged K7C.  I caught him as he was starting his session on 30m
> this evening.  I worked him at 100 watts and switched to QRP and called

with
> /QRP, but no joy.  I tried several more times, but nothing.  I may still
> work him, yet.
>
>
>
> The band went a little strange for a while.  I heard NO signals on 40, 30,
> 20, or 17 meters.  Then a little before 0200 UTC signals started coming
up.

> Did we have another X class solar flare today?
>
>
>
> Mark Saunders, KJ7BS
>
> Glendale, AZ
>
> <><><><><><><><><>
>
> FISTS # 2972
>
> Elecraft K2 S/N 539
>
> <><><><><><><><><>
>
> If you aint having fun,
>
> you aint doing it right.
>
> AZ ScQRPions
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 00:11:36 -0400
> From: "W3FPR - Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Top Posting
> To: <[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]>
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> ps030805 (aka noname, nocall),
>
> You should 'standardize' the line length before you try side-posting.  The
> following message is very confusing.
>
> The key to top posting is to reply in complete, logical sentences -

anything
> else produces garbage.  For those who are not willing to construct
responses
> in complete sentences, I am not willing and able to to decipher
> foreshortened comments (I find most of the bottom or in-line comments are
> really just  trivial stuff anyway).  I ask how many posts have you seen
with
> no additional comment?  I know I have seen at least 5 in the last 3 days -
> one scrolls down on a comment in an interesting thread and finds nothing
has

> been added - what a waste of time and bandwidth - think of those who read
> this reflector in digest form.
>
> 73,
> W3FPR
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Perhaps we could compromise           > A very good point!
> > Not only
> > and _side_ post, but only on          > removing the
> > unneccessary parts
> > the _left_side_. It's actually        > of a message you
> > reply to is
> > quite fun, and you can read the       > important, it is
> > also very
> > original message with your right      > important NOT to
> > reply _atop_
> > eye, while simultaneously reading     > the original message
> > but _below_
> > the reply with your left eye,         > it. It's much easier
> > to read the
> > provided you have both eyes open!     > message when proper
> > quiting was
> > 73, Paul                              > used, even if one
> > didn't follow
> >                                       > the thread closely.
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:22:36 +1300
> From: Paul Saville <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Side-posting With Tongue-in-Cheek
> To: [hidden email]
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> My humble apologies. One certainly mustn't muck-up
> one's side-postings. Here's another try...
>
> Perhaps we could      > A very good point!
> compromise  and       > Not only removing
> _side_ post, but      > the unneccessary
> only on the           > parts of a message
> _left_side_. It's     > you reply to is
> actually quite fun,   > important, it is
> and you can read      > also very important
> the original message  > NOT to reply _atop_
> with your right eye,  > the original message
> while simultaneously  > but _below_it. It's
> reading the reply     > much easier to read
> with your left eye,   > the message when
> provided you have     > proper quiting was
> both eyes open!       > used, even if one
> 73, Paul ZL3IN        > didn't follow
>                       > the thread closely.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:48:55 -0700
> From: Fred Jensen <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Top Posting
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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>
> OK guys and gals, this is getting very close to the neverending
> discussion of which way the toilet paper should roll.  The PS030805 post
> is ingenious and creative, except it didn't format well for me, as you
> can see below, which I've truncated for bandwidth (and sanity)
> preservation.  It may format even worse the second time around.  Since
> I'm sure it was tongue-in-cheek, I don't think Paul will mind.
>
> ps030805 wrote:
> <enough>
> > Perhaps we could compromise           > A very good point!
> > Not only
> > and _side_ post, but only on          > removing the
> > unneccessary parts
> > the _left_side_. It's actually        > of a message you
> > reply to is
> > quite fun, and you can read the       > important, it is
> > also very
> > original message with your right      > important NOT to
> > reply _atop_
> > eye, while simultaneously reading     > the original message
> > but _below_
> </okenough>
>
> Fred K6DGW
> Auburn CA CM98lw
>
> Thanks to all for the contacts in the CQP.  I was at N6A in Alpine
> County on CW.  Almost got blown off the mountain, but we did manage
> 1,152 unaudited QSO's.
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 23:57:27 -0500
> From: "Paul T. Rubin" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Top Posting
> To: <[hidden email]>, "'Elecraft Reflector'"
> <[hidden email]>
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>
> >OK guys and gals, this is getting very close to the neverending
> discussion of which way the toilet paper should roll.
>
>
> It rolls clockwise in the northern hemisphere.
>
> (Sorry folks, I just couldn't resist.)
>
> Paul N8NOV
> Houston (Northern Hemisphere)
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 05:07:07 +0000
> From: Ian Stirling <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Top Posting
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> On Tuesday 04 October 2005 04:11, W3FPR - Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> > You should 'standardize' the line length before you try side-posting.

The

> > following message is very confusing.
>
>   The problem is that 'word processor' techniques
> are prevalent in email these days, even if the
> email is plain text.   People just type and let
> their local line wrap make it seem as if it's
> formatted.
>   The worst comes when someone with a line wrap
> in their sending software wraps a quote that was
> properly formatted by the original sender.
>    There's nothing to do about advancing lowering
> of standards and etiquette - it's just entropy.
>
> Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 4962
> --
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 07:18:05 +0100
> From: "Dave Sergeant" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Antenna Modelling software
> To: [hidden email]
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> On 3 Oct 2005 at 23:23, [hidden email] wrote:
>
> > I have not done this for sometime. Anyone know where I can download a
> > trial/free version of antenna modeling software. I have my eye on a
> > tall tree in the yard.
> >
> > Jess AE0CW
>
> Without doubt:
>
> MMANA http://mmhamsoft.ham-radio.ch/
>
> Free and excellent.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
>
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