Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 182, Issue 34 (Low power out put on 160 and 6 Meters)

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I have three K3S and over the week-end I connected each of them to my Bird watt meter, with a Dummy load. Each of K3S were updated to the current Firmware and each had the 5 and 50 watt calibrations run.

What I found was all 3 showed from 80 to 90 watts output on 160 meters and on 6  meters I saw 75 to 90 watts. All other bands showed typically from 105 to 110 watts. However, one of the K3S showed exactly 100 watts on all bands except for the lower power on 160 and 6 meters.

I did check one of the K3S before doing the current Firmware update and saw no difference before and after the up date on 160 and 6 meter power output.

Does anyone have any ideas as to why I am seeing the lower outputs on 160 and 6 meters.

Everett N4CY

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>   4. K4 Field Day report (Wayne Burdick)
>   5. KX2 Paddle question (Kenneth Bell)
>   6. Re: K4 Field Day report (Nr4c)
>   7. Re: KX2 Paddle question (Roy Koeppe)
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>  10. Re: K4 Field Day report (Mark Goldberg)
>  11. All knobs at max ... (Ken G Kopp)
>  12. Re: K4 Field Day report (David Gilbert)
>  13.  KX3 won't go above 10W (Fred Soop)
>  14. Re: KX3 won't go above 10W (Mark Goldberg)
>  15. Re: K4 Field Day report (Dave)
>  16. Re: K4 Field Day report (Dean L)
>  17. Re: All knobs at max ... (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>  18. Re: All knobs at max ... (Walter Underwood)
>  19. Re: K4 Field Day report (WW3S)
>  20. Re: KX3 won't go above 10W (Jim Brown)
>  21. Re: All knobs at max ... (Wes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 08:34:06 -0700 (MST)
> From: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] SPOT failure
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> Hi all,
>
> did someone noticed that SPOT function is failing (or better say failing
> quite often) when NTCH filter is turned ON? The same happends also on K3...
>
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> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 07:33:38 -0400
> From: "Charlie T" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new dead K3s still not fixed
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> Just to be clear, were these two radios recently purchased directly from
> Elecraft, or were they "pre-owned" when you bought them?
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> 73, Charlie k3ICH
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new dead K3s still not fixed
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> sorry thats a K3s in kit form. not a K3,  
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> From: Nr4c <[hidden email]>
> To: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" <[hidden email]>
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] SPOT failure
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> I don?t think Mitch works in CW. When ON it would notch out the signal.
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>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> did someone noticed that SPOT function is failing (or better say failing
>> quite often) when NTCH filter is turned ON? The same happends also on K3...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
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>> "Apple & Elecraft freak"
>> B:http://ok1rp.blogspot.com
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> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:11:50 -0700
> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Field Day report
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> George (KJ6VU), John (KJ6K) and I operated a basic K4 for several hours as the 20 meter CW station at the Bay-Net Field Day site east of San Jose. This was the K4's first outdoor shake-down. The stakes were high, since the K4 has to pick up where the K3S/P3 leave off, fulfilling a dual role as both a high-end desktop and field/portable station.
>
> Observations:
>
> - the light weight (~10 pounds) made it easy to transport and set up
>
> - there was virtually no mutual interference between the K4 and a very active 40 meter SSB station using an antenna about 40' away
>
> - thanks to the low noise at this location we were able to hear many weak signals clustered together, and found signal clarity to be excellent
>
> - the LCD was clearly visible, without color washout, despite a full assault by bright sunlight bleeding through our translucent white tent cloth (some other radios at the same location had displays that were almost impossible to see)
>
> - the ATU did was able to tune a narrow-banded 20 meter yagi on other bands, when necessary, including 15, 10, and 6 meters
>
> - the radio ran from a very small Li-Ion battery (KXBT2, ~2.5 AH) for quite awhile, proving it works at 11 V, which is important for stations running from a somewhat depleted car battery or other emergency supply
>
> - operators were very complimentary of the internal speaker, though I'm partial to stereo audio and was using a pair of 8", 4 ohm (passive) external speakers most of the time
>
> We had a bit of fun late in the afternoon on Saturday when we switched from the Yagi to an AX1, Elecraft's 4 foot 20 meter whip. This may seem frivolous, but it's an important test because it shows that the radio's shielding is working well. It should handle an end-fed wire with a balun right at the antenna jack.
>
> Here are some comments we received afterward from KJ6K:
>
> "It was a real thrill to play with the K4 while making making CW contacts with it during Field Day. It's an amazing technical and usability design achievement. The user interface for many modern radios is so complex that an operator may need to refer to the manual frequently to figure out how to access a desired function, and never be able to do so quickly. The display on the K4 is gorgeous, and the use of touch, along with physical controls, provides a very intuitive and efficient user interface.  
>
> "My own interests in ham radio have always been mostly in the science and engineering, so my operating is mostly casual, with HF CW my favorite mode. The architecture of the K4 is really exciting; the performance and endless possibilities for features and connectivity is really cool."
>
> Thanks, John!
>
> Looking forward to full-contact Field Day battle mode with a couple of K4s next year :)
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:16:38 -0500
> From: Kenneth Bell <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Kenneth Bell <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Paddle question
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Hi
>
> I?ve recently bought a KX2 and am enjoying it.  I have an annoying problem with the KX2 Paddle. The contacts continue to get loose. I have them adjusted so that there is very little play.  I set them up this way to keep the mechanical clacking noise down and liked it so much that I changed my other paddle for my shack radio to the same adjustment.
>
> HOWEVER? on the KX2, after just a few minutes the paddles get loose again and start clacking again. There is a separate set-screw (that was loose) that I thought might make tighten onto the adjustment screw and keep it from backing out.  I?ve tightened them, but they don?t seem to affect the adjustment screw?s ability to get loose.  And, I don?t see these screws on the exploded view I got with the KX2 or on the PDF on their website. I guess a second question might be what do these screws do? One is visible on the top of the right-hand paddle and one is on the bottom of the left-hand paddle very near to the adjustment screws.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -ken  K4EES
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:31:49 -0400
> From: Nr4c <[hidden email]>
> To: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>,
>    [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Field Day report
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Hopefully there will be a lot of them in users hands by then (MINE)!!
>
> Thanks for the update.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> George (KJ6VU), John (KJ6K) and I operated a basic K4 for several hours as the 20 meter CW station at the Bay-Net Field Day site east of San Jose. This was the K4's first outdoor shake-down. The stakes were high, since the K4 has to pick up where the K3S/P3 leave off, fulfilling a dual role as both a high-end desktop and field/portable station.
>>
>> Observations:
>>
>> - the light weight (~10 pounds) made it easy to transport and set up
>>
>> - there was virtually no mutual interference between the K4 and a very active 40 meter SSB station using an antenna about 40' away
>>
>> - thanks to the low noise at this location we were able to hear many weak signals clustered together, and found signal clarity to be excellent
>>
>> - the LCD was clearly visible, without color washout, despite a full assault by bright sunlight bleeding through our translucent white tent cloth (some other radios at the same location had displays that were almost impossible to see)
>>
>> - the ATU did was able to tune a narrow-banded 20 meter yagi on other bands, when necessary, including 15, 10, and 6 meters
>>
>> - the radio ran from a very small Li-Ion battery (KXBT2, ~2.5 AH) for quite awhile, proving it works at 11 V, which is important for stations running from a somewhat depleted car battery or other emergency supply
>>
>> - operators were very complimentary of the internal speaker, though I'm partial to stereo audio and was using a pair of 8", 4 ohm (passive) external speakers most of the time
>>
>> We had a bit of fun late in the afternoon on Saturday when we switched from the Yagi to an AX1, Elecraft's 4 foot 20 meter whip. This may seem frivolous, but it's an important test because it shows that the radio's shielding is working well. It should handle an end-fed wire with a balun right at the antenna jack.
>>
>> Here are some comments we received afterward from KJ6K:
>>
>> "It was a real thrill to play with the K4 while making making CW contacts with it during Field Day. It's an amazing technical and usability design achievement. The user interface for many modern radios is so complex that an operator may need to refer to the manual frequently to figure out how to access a desired function, and never be able to do so quickly. The display on the K4 is gorgeous, and the use of touch, along with physical controls, provides a very intuitive and efficient user interface.  
>>
>> "My own interests in ham radio have always been mostly in the science and engineering, so my operating is mostly casual, with HF CW my favorite mode. The architecture of the K4 is really exciting; the performance and endless possibilities for features and connectivity is really cool."
>>
>> Thanks, John!
>>
>> Looking forward to full-contact Field Day battle mode with a couple of K4s next year :)
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:07:45 -0500
> From: "Roy Koeppe" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Paddle question
> Message-ID: <458E4023AF564351833D65B7CE2DFA73@ROYKOEPPEHP>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
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>
> Ken,
>
> I don't own a KX2, but perhaps tiny applications of one of the various
> 'threadlockers' on the market would be perfect. The thread lock comes in
> small tubes and is available in several "strengths."  Use only the lowest
> strength -- the high strength can be virtually permanent!
>
> 73,   Roy     K6XK
>
>
> -----I?ve recently bought a KX2 and am enjoying it.  I have an annoying
> problem with the KX2 Paddle. The contacts continue to get loose. I have them
> adjusted so that there is very little play.  I set them up this way to keep
> the mechanical clacking noise down and liked it so much that I changed my
> other paddle for my shack radio to the same adjustment.
>
> HOWEVER? on the KX2, after just a few minutes the paddles get loose again
> and start clacking again. There is a separate set-screw (that was loose)
> that I thought might make tighten onto the adjustment screw and keep it from
> backing out.  I?ve tightened them, but they don?t seem to affect the
> adjustment screw?s ability to get loose.  And, I don?t see these screws on
> the exploded view I got with the KX2 or on the PDF on their website. I guess
> a second question might be what do these screws do? One is visible on the
> top of the right-hand paddle and one is on the bottom of the left-hand
> paddle very near to the adjustment screws.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -ken  K4EES
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:29:17 +0000
> From: <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Possible issue with K3 Line In port?
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Paula,
>
> Your problem may be as simple as bad cable connections between the K3
> line in and your soundcard.  I had the same problem that recurred several
> times and drove me nuts.  I was getting audio out of the soundcard when
> going to transmit.  (I also the problem with AFSK-A RTTY.)  I finally
> found the problem by pressing on the cable at the line in port on the K3
> while in TX mode and saw power out/ALC action return.  Replacing the
> cable solved the problem.
>
> 73 de Ed
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:44:30 -0700
> From: Mark Goldberg <[hidden email]>
> To: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>,
>    [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Field Day report
> Message-ID:
>    <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
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> I'd be interested to hear how it does in the presence of close in strong
> signals, especially SSB. I was operating a KX3 on SSB in close frequency to
> someone that was far away, but they had all the knobs up to 11 and was
> maybe S9+20 and about 10 kHz wide with lots of splatter. I could hear
> anyone that came back to me but I eventually abandoned the frequency
> because most could not hear me. 20 SSB was wall to wall with someone about
> every 1.5 kHz or closer.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
>
>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:12 AM Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> George (KJ6VU), John (KJ6K) and I operated a basic K4 for several hours as
>> the 20 meter CW station at the Bay-Net Field Day site east of San Jose.
>> This was the K4's first outdoor shake-down. The stakes were high, since the
>> K4 has to pick up where the K3S/P3 leave off, fulfilling a dual role as
>> both a high-end desktop and field/portable station.
>>
>> Observations:
>>
>> - the light weight (~10 pounds) made it easy to transport and set up
>>
>> - there was virtually no mutual interference between the K4 and a very
>> active 40 meter SSB station using an antenna about 40' away
>>
>> - thanks to the low noise at this location we were able to hear many weak
>> signals clustered together, and found signal clarity to be excellent
>>
>> - the LCD was clearly visible, without color washout, despite a full
>> assault by bright sunlight bleeding through our translucent white tent
>> cloth (some other radios at the same location had displays that were almost
>> impossible to see)
>>
>> - the ATU did was able to tune a narrow-banded 20 meter yagi on other
>> bands, when necessary, including 15, 10, and 6 meters
>>
>> - the radio ran from a very small Li-Ion battery (KXBT2, ~2.5 AH) for
>> quite awhile, proving it works at 11 V, which is important for stations
>> running from a somewhat depleted car battery or other emergency supply
>>
>> - operators were very complimentary of the internal speaker, though I'm
>> partial to stereo audio and was using a pair of 8", 4 ohm (passive)
>> external speakers most of the time
>>
>> We had a bit of fun late in the afternoon on Saturday when we switched
>> from the Yagi to an AX1, Elecraft's 4 foot 20 meter whip. This may seem
>> frivolous, but it's an important test because it shows that the radio's
>> shielding is working well. It should handle an end-fed wire with a balun
>> right at the antenna jack.
>>
>> Here are some comments we received afterward from KJ6K:
>>
>> "It was a real thrill to play with the K4 while making making CW contacts
>> with it during Field Day. It's an amazing technical and usability design
>> achievement. The user interface for many modern radios is so complex that
>> an operator may need to refer to the manual frequently to figure out how to
>> access a desired function, and never be able to do so quickly. The display
>> on the K4 is gorgeous, and the use of touch, along with physical controls,
>> provides a very intuitive and efficient user interface.
>>
>> "My own interests in ham radio have always been mostly in the science and
>> engineering, so my operating is mostly casual, with HF CW my favorite mode.
>> The architecture of the K4 is really exciting; the performance and endless
>> possibilities for features and connectivity is really cool."
>>
>> Thanks, John!
>>
>> Looking forward to full-contact Field Day battle mode with a couple of K4s
>> next year :)
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:45:34 -0700
> From: Mark Goldberg <[hidden email]>
> To: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>,
>    [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Field Day report
> Message-ID:
>    <CAKn+a3uhqwGbsE_2BPwsch=2Ggrh-R=+[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Oops, adding my call.
>
> Mark,
> W7MLG
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 11:44 AM Mark Goldberg <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> I'd be interested to hear how it does in the presence of close in strong
>> signals, especially SSB. I was operating a KX3 on SSB in close frequency to
>> someone that was far away, but they had all the knobs up to 11 and was
>> maybe S9+20 and about 10 kHz wide with lots of splatter. I could hear
>> anyone that came back to me but I eventually abandoned the frequency
>> because most could not hear me. 20 SSB was wall to wall with someone about
>> every 1.5 kHz or closer.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:12 AM Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> George (KJ6VU), John (KJ6K) and I operated a basic K4 for several hours
>>> as the 20 meter CW station at the Bay-Net Field Day site east of San Jose.
>>> This was the K4's first outdoor shake-down. The stakes were high, since the
>>> K4 has to pick up where the K3S/P3 leave off, fulfilling a dual role as
>>> both a high-end desktop and field/portable station.
>>>
>>> Observations:
>>>
>>> - the light weight (~10 pounds) made it easy to transport and set up
>>>
>>> - there was virtually no mutual interference between the K4 and a very
>>> active 40 meter SSB station using an antenna about 40' away
>>>
>>> - thanks to the low noise at this location we were able to hear many weak
>>> signals clustered together, and found signal clarity to be excellent
>>>
>>> - the LCD was clearly visible, without color washout, despite a full
>>> assault by bright sunlight bleeding through our translucent white tent
>>> cloth (some other radios at the same location had displays that were almost
>>> impossible to see)
>>>
>>> - the ATU did was able to tune a narrow-banded 20 meter yagi on other
>>> bands, when necessary, including 15, 10, and 6 meters
>>>
>>> - the radio ran from a very small Li-Ion battery (KXBT2, ~2.5 AH) for
>>> quite awhile, proving it works at 11 V, which is important for stations
>>> running from a somewhat depleted car battery or other emergency supply
>>>
>>> - operators were very complimentary of the internal speaker, though I'm
>>> partial to stereo audio and was using a pair of 8", 4 ohm (passive)
>>> external speakers most of the time
>>>
>>> We had a bit of fun late in the afternoon on Saturday when we switched
>>> from the Yagi to an AX1, Elecraft's 4 foot 20 meter whip. This may seem
>>> frivolous, but it's an important test because it shows that the radio's
>>> shielding is working well. It should handle an end-fed wire with a balun
>>> right at the antenna jack.
>>>
>>> Here are some comments we received afterward from KJ6K:
>>>
>>> "It was a real thrill to play with the K4 while making making CW contacts
>>> with it during Field Day. It's an amazing technical and usability design
>>> achievement. The user interface for many modern radios is so complex that
>>> an operator may need to refer to the manual frequently to figure out how to
>>> access a desired function, and never be able to do so quickly. The display
>>> on the K4 is gorgeous, and the use of touch, along with physical controls,
>>> provides a very intuitive and efficient user interface.
>>>
>>> "My own interests in ham radio have always been mostly in the science and
>>> engineering, so my operating is mostly casual, with HF CW my favorite mode.
>>> The architecture of the K4 is really exciting; the performance and endless
>>> possibilities for features and connectivity is really cool."
>>>
>>> Thanks, John!
>>>
>>> Looking forward to full-contact Field Day battle mode with a couple of
>>> K4s next year :)
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:59:59 -0600
> From: Ken G Kopp <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] All knobs at max ...
> Message-ID:
>    <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Such offensive behavior is an age-old ploy to maintain a clear frequency,
> especially when the operator's call is hidden by the use of a club / seldom
> used call, such as on FD.
>
> I'm -NOT- advocating such offensive behavior ... merely stating the obvious.
>
> 73
>
> K0PP
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:09:38 -0700
> From: David Gilbert <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Field Day report
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
>
> There isn't a rig on the planet that will take out actual splatter,
> although you MIGHT be able to filter out some of it at audio depending
> upon the offender's voice characteristics.? If the trash is truly within
> your passband at RF you are going to hear it.
>
> Most of that occurs due to sheer ignorance on the part of the operator,
> but the sad thing is that there are hams out there who will
> intentionally overdrive their rigs in order to create "elbow room" for
> themselves.? On CW they do it with fast rise times to generate key
> clicks.? I've seen posts from guys who admit doing it.
>
> 73,
> Dave?? AB7E
>
>
>> On 6/24/2019 11:44 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote:
>> I'd be interested to hear how it does in the presence of close in strong
>> signals, especially SSB. I was operating a KX3 on SSB in close frequency to
>> someone that was far away, but they had all the knobs up to 11 and was
>> maybe S9+20 and about 10 kHz wide with lots of splatter. I could hear
>> anyone that came back to me but I eventually abandoned the frequency
>> because most could not hear me. 20 SSB was wall to wall with someone about
>> every 1.5 kHz or closer.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mark
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:39:52 -0500
> From: Fred Soop <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft]  KX3 won't go above 10W
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> I have looked at the power issue (even though I'm not yet a KX3 owner) and with NiMH cells at 1.2 V, the 8 cell internal battery holder would only be 9.6 V. I'm considering an external battery pack with (2) 6 cell holders for 12 cells total. That would be 14.4 V total. A single series diode would bring that down to 13.7 V. The NiMH cells do start at 1.5 V with full charge for a short time, so some additional series diodes would be needed with a fresh charge and could be switched out as the cell voltage drops to 1.2 V. A voltmeter and rotary switch with 5 diodes would do the job.
>
> 73
> Fred Soop AC9RQ
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:59:10 -0700
> From: Mark Goldberg <[hidden email]>
> To: Fred Soop <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Mailing List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 won't go above 10W
> Message-ID:
>    <CAKn+a3tZfGc14C4_=[hidden email]>
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>
> Go with LiFePO4 cells. Four cells will keep the voltage between 12 and 14.4
> V from 10% to 100% state of charge and most of the time the voltage is
> between 13 and 13.5 V. I use small ones (3 AH )for backpack portable
> operation, 20 AH for fixed portable and my RV has 400 Ah to run the rig
> forever! The KX3 stays at the max 15W almost all of the time. No fuss, just
> works, and they keep their charge for months. Small ones start at about $50.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 12:40 PM Fred Soop <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I have looked at the power issue (even though I'm not yet a KX3 owner) and
>> with NiMH cells at 1.2 V, the 8 cell internal battery holder would only be
>> 9.6 V. I'm considering an external battery pack with (2) 6 cell holders for
>> 12 cells total. That would be 14.4 V total. A single series diode would
>> bring that down to 13.7 V. The NiMH cells do start at 1.5 V with full
>> charge for a short time, so some additional series diodes would be needed
>> with a fresh charge and could be switched out as the cell voltage drops to
>> 1.2 V. A voltmeter and rotary switch with 5 diodes would do the job.
>>
>> 73
>> Fred Soop AC9RQ
>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:05:19 -0400
> From: Dave <[hidden email]>
> To: David Gilbert <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Field Day report
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
>
> W3PIE on 14.080 FT8 was splattering prettybad yesterday morning. Spikes up and down the passband. Surely an overdrive issue with audio levels.
>
> Dave wo2x
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 3:09 PM, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> There isn't a rig on the planet that will take out actual splatter, although you MIGHT be able to filter out some of it at audio depending upon the offender's voice characteristics.  If the trash is truly within your passband at RF you are going to hear it.
>>
>> Most of that occurs due to sheer ignorance on the part of the operator, but the sad thing is that there are hams out there who will intentionally overdrive their rigs in order to create "elbow room" for themselves.  On CW they do it with fast rise times to generate key clicks.  I've seen posts from guys who admit doing it.
>>
>> 73,
>> Dave   AB7E
>>
>>
>>> On 6/24/2019 11:44 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote:
>>> I'd be interested to hear how it does in the presence of close in strong
>>> signals, especially SSB. I was operating a KX3 on SSB in close frequency to
>>> someone that was far away, but they had all the knobs up to 11 and was
>>> maybe S9+20 and about 10 kHz wide with lots of splatter. I could hear
>>> anyone that came back to me but I eventually abandoned the frequency
>>> because most could not hear me. 20 SSB was wall to wall with someone about
>>> every 1.5 kHz or closer.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:39:47 -0400
> From: Dean L <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Mail List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Field Day report
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> Great update Wayne
>
> Well it's all relative.
> Saturday, I got to FD, 2.5 hours from home, to a sister Clubs operation,
> they invited me to come down and work some cw.
> When I arrived, they were running an American rig (not Elecraft) on  CW
> station, I operated it for a few hours.
>
> I asked if they minded if I ran my own radio, which was no problem.
>
> I'm sure  glad I brought my pelican case, with my trusty "old" k3 and p3,
> no "s", no updates, no narrow filters, no nuttin!
>
> It was like going from an HW-7 to a K2...
>
> Sorry, but I'm ruined.
>
> Have Elecraft, will travel.
>
>
> I won't be moving to a k4... No need.
>
> I'm happy.
>
>
> 73 all
> Dean K2WW
>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 13:32 Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hopefully there will be a lot of them in users hands by then (MINE)!!
>>
>> Thanks for the update.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> George (KJ6VU), John (KJ6K) and I operated a basic K4 for several hours
>> as the 20 meter CW station at the Bay-Net Field Day site east of San Jose.
>> This was the K4's first outdoor shake-down. The stakes were high, since the
>> K4 has to pick up where the K3S/P3 leave off, fulfilling a dual role as
>> both a high-end desktop and field/portable station.
>>>
>>> Observations:
>>>
>>> - the light weight (~10 pounds) made it easy to transport and set up
>>>
>>> - there was virtually no mutual interference between the K4 and a very
>> active 40 meter SSB station using an antenna about 40' away
>>>
>>> - thanks to the low noise at this location we were able to hear many
>> weak signals clustered together, and found signal clarity to be excellent
>>>
>>> - the LCD was clearly visible, without color washout, despite a full
>> assault by bright sunlight bleeding through our translucent white tent
>> cloth (some other radios at the same location had displays that were almost
>> impossible to see)
>>>
>>> - the ATU did was able to tune a narrow-banded 20 meter yagi on other
>> bands, when necessary, including 15, 10, and 6 meters
>>>
>>> - the radio ran from a very small Li-Ion battery (KXBT2, ~2.5 AH) for
>> quite awhile, proving it works at 11 V, which is important for stations
>> running from a somewhat depleted car battery or other emergency supply
>>>
>>> - operators were very complimentary of the internal speaker, though I'm
>> partial to stereo audio and was using a pair of 8", 4 ohm (passive)
>> external speakers most of the time
>>>
>>> We had a bit of fun late in the afternoon on Saturday when we switched
>> from the Yagi to an AX1, Elecraft's 4 foot 20 meter whip. This may seem
>> frivolous, but it's an important test because it shows that the radio's
>> shielding is working well. It should handle an end-fed wire with a balun
>> right at the antenna jack.
>>>
>>> Here are some comments we received afterward from KJ6K:
>>>
>>> "It was a real thrill to play with the K4 while making making CW
>> contacts with it during Field Day. It's an amazing technical and usability
>> design achievement. The user interface for many modern radios is so complex
>> that an operator may need to refer to the manual frequently to figure out
>> how to access a desired function, and never be able to do so quickly. The
>> display on the K4 is gorgeous, and the use of touch, along with physical
>> controls, provides a very intuitive and efficient user interface.
>>>
>>> "My own interests in ham radio have always been mostly in the science
>> and engineering, so my operating is mostly casual, with HF CW my favorite
>> mode. The architecture of the K4 is really exciting; the performance and
>> endless possibilities for features and connectivity is really cool."
>>>
>>> Thanks, John!
>>>
>>> Looking forward to full-contact Field Day battle mode with a couple of
>> K4s next year :)
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>>
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>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 13:32 Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hopefully there will be a lot of them in users hands by then (MINE)!!
>>
>> Thanks for the update.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> George (KJ6VU), John (KJ6K) and I operated a basic K4 for several hours
>> as the 20 meter CW station at the Bay-Net Field Day site east of San Jose.
>> This was the K4's first outdoor shake-down. The stakes were high, since the
>> K4 has to pick up where the K3S/P3 leave off, fulfilling a dual role as
>> both a high-end desktop and field/portable station.
>>>
>>> Observations:
>>>
>>> - the light weight (~10 pounds) made it easy to transport and set up
>>>
>>> - there was virtually no mutual interference between the K4 and a very
>> active 40 meter SSB station using an antenna about 40' away
>>>
>>> - thanks to the low noise at this location we were able to hear many
>> weak signals clustered together, and found signal clarity to be excellent
>>>
>>> - the LCD was clearly visible, without color washout, despite a full
>> assault by bright sunlight bleeding through our translucent white tent
>> cloth (some other radios at the same location had displays that were almost
>> impossible to see)
>>>
>>> - the ATU did was able to tune a narrow-banded 20 meter yagi on other
>> bands, when necessary, including 15, 10, and 6 meters
>>>
>>> - the radio ran from a very small Li-Ion battery (KXBT2, ~2.5 AH) for
>> quite awhile, proving it works at 11 V, which is important for stations
>> running from a somewhat depleted car battery or other emergency supply
>>>
>>> - operators were very complimentary of the internal speaker, though I'm
>> partial to stereo audio and was using a pair of 8", 4 ohm (passive)
>> external speakers most of the time
>>>
>>> We had a bit of fun late in the afternoon on Saturday when we switched
>> from the Yagi to an AX1, Elecraft's 4 foot 20 meter whip. This may seem
>> frivolous, but it's an important test because it shows that the radio's
>> shielding is working well. It should handle an end-fed wire with a balun
>> right at the antenna jack.
>>>
>>> Here are some comments we received afterward from KJ6K:
>>>
>>> "It was a real thrill to play with the K4 while making making CW
>> contacts with it during Field Day. It's an amazing technical and usability
>> design achievement. The user interface for many modern radios is so complex
>> that an operator may need to refer to the manual frequently to figure out
>> how to access a desired function, and never be able to do so quickly. The
>> display on the K4 is gorgeous, and the use of touch, along with physical
>> controls, provides a very intuitive and efficient user interface.
>>>
>>> "My own interests in ham radio have always been mostly in the science
>> and engineering, so my operating is mostly casual, with HF CW my favorite
>> mode. The architecture of the K4 is really exciting; the performance and
>> endless possibilities for features and connectivity is really cool."
>>>
>>> Thanks, John!
>>>
>>> Looking forward to full-contact Field Day battle mode with a couple of
>> K4s next year :)
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:43:05 -0500
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] All knobs at max ...
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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>
> There is waaaayyyy too much of that on the air today. ?? I'll be glad to
> see the day in which Riley Hollingsworth gets the VM program up and
> running.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>> On 6/24/2019 1:59 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
>> Such offensive behavior is an age-old ploy to maintain a clear frequency,
>> especially when the operator's call is hidden by the use of a club / seldom
>> used call, such as on FD.
>>
>> I'm -NOT- advocating such offensive behavior ... merely stating the obvious.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> K0PP
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> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:55:16 -0700
> From: Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Mailing List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] All knobs at max ...
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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>
> I was just thinking, they should give 100 points for a positive report from a Volunteer Monitor. Because Field Day clearly needs more ways to get points...
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> There is waaaayyyy too much of that on the air today.    I'll be glad to see the day in which Riley Hollingsworth gets the VM program up and running.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>> On 6/24/2019 1:59 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
>>> Such offensive behavior is an age-old ploy to maintain a clear frequency,
>>> especially when the operator's call is hidden by the use of a club / seldom
>>> used call, such as on FD.
>>>
>>> I'm -NOT- advocating such offensive behavior ... merely stating the obvious.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> K0PP
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> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:02:45 -0400
> From: WW3S <[hidden email]>
> To: Dave <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Field Day report
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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>
> PIE or MIE ? I was at W3MIE, IC-7300, very little ALC deflection, but would sure like to know if it was us....
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 4:05 PM, Dave <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> W3PIE on 14.080 FT8 was splattering prettybad yesterday morning. Spikes up and down the passband. Surely an overdrive issue with audio levels.
>>
>> Dave wo2x
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 3:09 PM, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> There isn't a rig on the planet that will take out actual splatter, although you MIGHT be able to filter out some of it at audio depending upon the offender's voice characteristics.  If the trash is truly within your passband at RF you are going to hear it.
>>>
>>> Most of that occurs due to sheer ignorance on the part of the operator, but the sad thing is that there are hams out there who will intentionally overdrive their rigs in order to create "elbow room" for themselves.  On CW they do it with fast rise times to generate key clicks.  I've seen posts from guys who admit doing it.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Dave   AB7E
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 6/24/2019 11:44 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote:
>>>> I'd be interested to hear how it does in the presence of close in strong
>>>> signals, especially SSB. I was operating a KX3 on SSB in close frequency to
>>>> someone that was far away, but they had all the knobs up to 11 and was
>>>> maybe S9+20 and about 10 kHz wide with lots of splatter. I could hear
>>>> anyone that came back to me but I eventually abandoned the frequency
>>>> because most could not hear me. 20 SSB was wall to wall with someone about
>>>> every 1.5 kHz or closer.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:35:36 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 won't go above 10W
> Message-ID:
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>
>> On 6/24/2019 12:59 PM, Mark Goldberg wrote:
>> Go with LiFePO4 cells
>
> Yes. This ham-friendly company sells a wide range of LiFePO4 batteries.
> Charge before you leave home (all Li batteries require a charger
> designed for their specific chemistry, voltage, and capacity), connect
> to your KX2/3 external power jack. Choose the capacity/weight that suits
> your planned use.
>
> $50 will get you 3Ah that weighs 13 oz; add $15 for the charger. A 6Ah
> battery goes for $80, approximately twice the weight. I paid about $195
> for a 20Ah battery that weighs 5.4#, +$20 for a faster charger.
>
> https://www.bioennopower.com/collections/12v-series-lifepo4-batteries
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:45:59 -0700
> From: Wes <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] All knobs at max ...
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> ARRL always does its best to keep me from copying the FB Bulletin. I finally
> fooled them this year.
>
> I actually removed them from my estate plan after getting to much grief some
> years ago from the FD guru at headquarters after I simply asked that the
> schedule also list the times in GMT.? I'm in AZ.? We know that you can't
> actually save daylight by tweaking your clock, so we don't.? ARRL publishes the
> zone times as if everyone reset their clock and they are so parochial to not
> even mention DST on the column headings.?? I've missed FMTs for similar reasons.
>
> Wes? N7WS
>
>> On 6/24/2019 1:55 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
>> I was just thinking, they should give 100 points for a positive report from a Volunteer Monitor. Because Field Day clearly needs more ways to get points...
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:58:06 -0500
> From: Chris Waldrup <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 won't go above 10W
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
>
> Thank you.
> Gigaparts is local to me and I see they have the Bioennos in stock!!
>
> Chris
>
>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/24/2019 12:59 PM, Mark Goldberg wrote:
>>> Go with LiFePO4 cells
>>
>> Yes. This ham-friendly company sells a wide range of LiFePO4 batteries. Charge before you leave home (all Li batteries require a charger designed for their specific chemistry, voltage, and capacity), connect to your KX2/3 external power jack. Choose the capacity/weight that suits your planned use.
>>
>> $50 will get you 3Ah that weighs 13 oz; add $15 for the charger. A 6Ah battery goes for $80, approximately twice the weight. I paid about $195 for a 20Ah battery that weighs 5.4#, +$20 for a faster charger.
>>
>> https://www.bioennopower.com/collections/12v-series-lifepo4-batteries
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 22:05:21 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Paula Uscian <[hidden email]>
> To: elecraft <[hidden email]>, "Joe Subich, W4TV"
>    <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Possible issue with K3 Line In port?
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Thanks to the many people who responded to my post, it is much appreciated. I was thinking Joe's recommendation below was my last option. But then a strange thing happened.
> In doing some last checks before exploratory surgery on the K3's IO board, I decided to unplug the Phones jack of my Radiosport headset from the front of the rig and plug it into the phones jack on the TASCAM to confirm that I was hearing tones on TX. I did hear the tones (as I had before with the phones plugged into the K3 and listening via the K3 monitor). But after I plugged the Radiosport phone plug back into the K3, voila -- I have a reading on the ALC meter.
> Of perhaps greater significance, I verified operation is now fine by completing a Q on FT8.
> I also now have TX for RTTY as well.
> I'd like to think I'm home free due to clean living ;-), but fear I may have a dreaded intermittent issue. Time will tell.
> Many tnx agn to all who responded, your comments were most helpful. For completeness of this thread, I've included responses to some of the recommendations and questions below.
> 73 Paula k9ir
> 1, VOX shouldn't be needed with FT8 using WSJT as it communicates with the K3 via CAT commands. FYI no difference with or without VOX. I have used VOX for RTTY AFSK in the past, but got disabused of that sin when I had some issues with WinWarbler that were resolved by running Commander.2. It is difficult for me to test a different cable as the TASCAM Line out consists of 2 RCA jacks. I happen to have a cable with 2 RCA plugs at one end and a 3.5mm plug at the other end, but I don't have another one to try (note to self -- get another cable just in case). However, I did run a totally different 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable from the Line Out (Green) port on the PC to the Line In port on the K3 and got the same failure (AFTER reconfiguring the software to look to the internal sound card for TX). Yes, it is possible I have 2 bad sound cards and 2 bad cables, but I'm playing the odds for next steps ;-).3. I have been using the meter selection that shows ALC during these tests.4. I do hea

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> tones -- a steady tone when I click the Tune button and modulating tones when I click the TX button, in WSJT -- in my headset, so I think the TASCAM Line Out is working.I just see no bars on the ALC display.
> I also checked to make sure recent Windows 10 updates didn't alter my Privacy settings for the microphone; those permissions remain the same as when the system was working.
>    On Monday, June 24, 2019, 08:40:09 AM CDT, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:  
>
>
> Check L4 and L5 on the KIO3 Audio Input board.? They are in series with
> the Line IN audio and return lines and have been known to open.? The
> quick fix is to simply bypass them with jumpers.
>
> 73,
>
> ? ? ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>> On 2019-06-24 9:29 AM, Paula Uscian wrote:
>> I suspect I may have an issue with the Line In port of my K3, as my ability to TX in any digital mode has gone away.
>>
>> Setup:
>> 1. Using a Tascam US-122 MKII outboard sound card.
>> 2. MIC SEL is set to Line In on the K3.
>> 3. Digital software, e.g., WinWarbler and WSJT, have the Tascam selected for TX and RX.
>> 4. Mode selection for FT8 is set to Data, for RTTY is set to AFSK 45 bps.
>> 5. Levels are the same as when this system worked ? K3 Mic level is set around 43-44.
>>
>> Symptoms:
>> 1. When I try to TX on FT8 from within WSJT, the K3 red TX light comes on and over my headphones I can hear a steady tuning tone, but I have no power out, not one bar.
>> 2. During TX I do hear ?behind? the tones a brief low level buzzy/crackly sound that recurs every second or so.
>> 3. I get the same results as above when trying to TX in WSJT, though I hear tones typical of a transmission vs. a steady tone.
>> 4. I get the same results as above when I switch to RTTY and TX within WinWarbler; RYRYRY, but no power out.
>> 5. The Tascam and WSJT work fine together to decode FT8 signals.
>>
>> T-shooting Steps to Date:
>> 1. Uninstalled, rebooted and reinstalled all Tascam software and current drivers. Same results.
>> 2. Tried the Line Out from the internal PC soundcard to the Line In on the K3. This also involved using a different cable from that connecting the Tascam to the K3. Reconfigured the digital software to use the internal sound card for TX. Same results as described above (including the noise).
>> 3. Verified the K3 does TX (at least on CW).
>>
>> I suspect the board with the Line In port may have gone bad, but not sure if that?s the issue. If so, is there anything further worth checking or should I just replace the board?
>>
>> Thanks for any guidance!
>>
>> 73 Paula k9ir
>>
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