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Jack Brindle

Re: Elecraft's website down? I keep getting

The word here in Silicon Valley is that Verizon had a major fiber cable break. It has taken out pretty much all their communications in the south valley down into Monterrey. This includes telphone, cell phones, internets, and their other communications. No word on when it will be repaired. Meanwhile, the other half of the valley, on ATT, continues right along. We got lucky this time, next time it could be us...

Jack Brindle, W6FB

-----Original Message-----

>From: Ken Kopp <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Apr 9, 2009 11:13 AM
>To: AD6XY <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "network timeout"
>
>I have no idea of the cause, of course .... but as a retired utility
>communications tech I'll tell you that anything is possible and
>sooner-or-later will happen. A utility simply can't cover every
>possible uh-oh.
>
>My utility ... like most ... uses an extensive microwave system
>for control of the largest utility in the US (In square miles served)
>and there are extensive "backups and alternatives. This being
>said, an earthquake that would disturb rowers and dish alignment
>would be a major disaster. Ditto for a large forest fire. The dense
>smoke can cause HV lines to flash over, causing them to "trip out",
>and can cause very wide-spread outages.
>
>Lots can and does happen.
>
>73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
>
>
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Jeff Kinzli

Re: Elecraft's website down? I keep getting

It was deliberate, apparently in both cases...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/09/BAP816VTE6.DTL&tsp=1

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 13:13, Jack Brindle <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The word here in Silicon Valley is that Verizon had a major fiber cable break. It has taken out pretty much all their communications in the south valley down into Monterrey. This includes telphone, cell phones, internets, and their other communications. No word on when it will be repaired. Meanwhile, the other half of the valley, on ATT, continues right along. We got lucky this time, next time it could be us...
>
> Jack Brindle, W6FB
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Ken Kopp <[hidden email]>
>>Sent: Apr 9, 2009 11:13 AM
>>To: AD6XY <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "network timeout"
>>
>>I have no idea of the cause, of course .... but as a retired utility
>>communications tech I'll tell you that anything is possible and
>>sooner-or-later will happen. A utility simply can't cover every
>>possible uh-oh.
>>
>>My utility ... like most ... uses an extensive microwave system
>>for control of the largest utility in the US (In square miles served)
>>and there are extensive "backups and alternatives. This being
>>said, an earthquake that would disturb rowers and dish alignment
>>would be a major disaster. Ditto for a large forest fire. The dense
>>smoke can cause HV lines to flash over, causing them to "trip out",
>>and can cause very wide-spread outages.
>>
>>Lots can and does happen.
>>
>>73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
>>
>>
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Jack Brindle

Re: Elecraft's website down? I keep getting

Not only that, but the major electric feeders are also run out in the
open! Long-distance transmission lines, whether they be for
communications, power transfer or car/truck/train throughways are
necessarily run through non-secure areas, in most cases in the open.
It would be extremely impractical to do otherwise, and would make the
services prohibitively expensive.

The problem with the six fiber cables (four in south San Jose, two in
San Mateo) appear to be deliberate acts of sabotage, meant to cause
harm. They were perpetrated by someone who knew what they were doing.
It would be next to impossible to secure against such an act,
especially since it may be (looks like, and is reported as being) an
inside job.

At this point the local news continues to report that the outage is
ongoing with no estimate as to when repairs will be completed. They
are also reporting that just about everything to do with the two cuts
are under criminal investigation. Let's hope that the folks in Aptos
come back on line very soon.

-Jack Brindle, W6FB
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On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> It was deliberate, apparently in both cases...
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/09/BAP816VTE6.DTL&tsp=1
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> So the communications capabilities for a few million people are
> routed through some unattended vaults in public places and there's
> no security system to alert someone when one of the vaults is opened.
>
> It's not clear to me who is the most dangerous: the execs
> responsible for security or the guys who cut the cables.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
>

Phil Kane-2

Re: Elecraft's website down? I keep getting

On 4/9/2009 7:05 PM, Jack Brindle wrote:

> The problem with the six fiber cables (four in south San Jose,
> two in San Mateo) appear to be deliberate acts of sabotage, meant
> to cause harm. They were perpetrated by someone who knew what
> they were doing. It would be next to impossible to secure against
> such an act, especially since it may be (looks like, and is
> reported as being) an inside job.

This may be connected with the strike that is supposed to
start today. More info I cannot speculate on (because I don't
know it all). It's AT&T Security's problem.

Meanwhile I use my K2 as a happy camper!

-- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

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