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Joan
Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide to the Elecraft KX2.

Thank you!
^_^ Joan

FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.

> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s manuals?
> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found during my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people learn.  Some are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, some can gain comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on learners, needing the “lab experience” to cement their understanding of the concepts.  I’m a visual and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had trouble understanding how the sub receiver worked and what the different antenna switching options were.  So I drew it out in a diagram and that made it much more clear to me.  If that helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The original title was to be “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of that!)
> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.    There are many, many diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio operations and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls for the receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab exercise” that you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand the concept.
> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
> www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com> has more information on all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of contents and ordering information.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Fred
>
> ________________________________
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> on behalf of Mike Markowski <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals
>
> Fred and all,
>
> Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
>  I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
> direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
> what you've added?
>
> Tnx es 73!
> Mike ab3ap
>
>> On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>> Hi Neil
>>
>> No never did a K2 book.
>>
>> Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.
>>
>> The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  Sorry about that too.
>>
>> Fred KE7X
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Re: Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

Cady, Fred-2
Yea, another Douglas Adams fan.


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From: Joan <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 12:26 AM
To: Cady, Fred
Cc: Mike Markowski; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide to the Elecraft KX2.

Thank you!
^_^ Joan

FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.

On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s manuals?
Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found during my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people learn.  Some are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, some can gain comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on learners, needing the “lab experience” to cement their understanding of the concepts.  I’m a visual and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had trouble understanding how the sub receiver worked and what the different antenna switching options were.  So I drew it out in a diagram and that made it much more clear to me.  If that helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The original title was to be “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of that!)
The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.    There are many, many diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio operations and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls for the receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab exercise” that you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand the concept.
The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com><http://www.ke7x.com> has more information on all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of contents and ordering information.


73,

Fred

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From: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> on behalf of Mike Markowski <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals

Fred and all,

Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
 I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
what you've added?

Tnx es 73!
Mike ab3ap

On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
Hi Neil

No never did a K2 book.

Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.

The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  Sorry about that too.

Fred KE7X
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Yeah, but my copy didn’t have DON’T PANIC written in large, friendly letters....
73 DE KK4YEL

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> On Apr 8, 2018, at 02:27, Joan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide to the Elecraft KX2.
>
> Thank you!
> ^_^ Joan
>
> FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .
>
> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
>
>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s manuals?
>> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found during my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people learn.  Some are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, some can gain comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on learners, needing the “lab experience” to cement their understanding of the concepts.  I’m a visual and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had trouble understanding how the sub receiver worked and what the different antenna switching options were.  So I drew it out in a diagram and that made it much more clear to me.  If that helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The original title was to be “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of that!)
>> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.    There are many, many diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio operations and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls for the receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab exercise” that you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand the concept.
>> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ke7x.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289&sdata=Vm0EbZlIY7l%2BlaYsff7q5hyZ%2BQ1UTYUiOAiME5fDIqk%3D&reserved=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ke7x.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289&sdata=ZyBT4gyj%2FeHpFIVe6jzaHkbvmMz6QiLfpJq8%2FC8CXiQ%3D&reserved=0> has more information on all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of contents and ordering information.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> on behalf of Mike Markowski <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals
>>
>> Fred and all,
>>
>> Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
>> I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
>> direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
>> what you've added?
>>
>> Tnx es 73!
>> Mike ab3ap
>>
>>> On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>> Hi Neil
>>>
>>> No never did a K2 book.
>>>
>>> Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.
>>>
>>> The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  Sorry about that too.
>>>
>>> Fred KE7X
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Cady, Fred-2
Rats, wish I had thought of that!  Maybe the next book . . .


________________________________
From: kevino z <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 7:36 AM
To: Joan
Cc: Cady, Fred; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

Yeah, but my copy didn’t have DON’T PANIC written in large, friendly letters....
73 DE KK4YEL

No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !

> On Apr 8, 2018, at 02:27, Joan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide to the Elecraft KX2.
>
> Thank you!
> ^_^ Joan
>
> FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .
>
> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
>
>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s manuals?
>> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found during my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people learn.  Some are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, some can gain comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on learners, needing the “lab experience” to cement their understanding of the concepts.  I’m a visual and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had trouble understanding how the sub receiver worked and what the different antenna switching options were.  So I drew it out in a diagram and that made it much more clear to me.  If that helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The original title was to be “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of that!)
>> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.    There are many, many diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio operations and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls for the receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab exercise” that you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand the concept.
>> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ke7x.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289&sdata=Vm0EbZlIY7l%2BlaYsff7q5hyZ%2BQ1UTYUiOAiME5fDIqk%3D&reserved=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ke7x.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289&sdata=ZyBT4gyj%2FeHpFIVe6jzaHkbvmMz6QiLfpJq8%2FC8CXiQ%3D&reserved=0> has more information on all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of contents and ordering information.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> on behalf of Mike Markowski <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals
>>
>> Fred and all,
>>
>> Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
>> I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
>> direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
>> what you've added?
>>
>> Tnx es 73!
>> Mike ab3ap
>>
>>> On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>> Hi Neil
>>>
>>> No never did a K2 book.
>>>
>>> Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.
>>>
>>> The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  Sorry about that too.
>>>
>>> Fred KE7X
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Re: Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

kevinr@coho.net
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase is currently being
broadcast directly from the BBC.  Only one episode left to find out what
happens to Arthur Dent, Ford Prefect, Trillian, and her daughter
Random.  As for Zaphod?  Well, he's just this guy, you know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v379k/episodes/guide

The first radio show came out in the late 70s.  Now, xx years later, we
are on part 6.

    73,

        Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 04/08/2018 07:09 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:

> Rats, wish I had thought of that!  Maybe the next book . . .
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: kevino z <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 7:36 AM
> To: Joan
> Cc: Cady, Fred; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X
>
> Yeah, but my copy didn’t have DON’T PANIC written in large, friendly letters....
> 73 DE KK4YEL
>
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !
>
>> On Apr 8, 2018, at 02:27, Joan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide to the Elecraft KX2.
>>
>> Thank you!
>> ^_^ Joan
>>
>> FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .
>>
>> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
>> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s manuals?
>>> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found during my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people learn.  Some are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, some can gain comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on learners, needing the “lab experience” to cement their understanding of the concepts.  I’m a visual and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had trouble understanding how the sub receiver worked and what the different antenna switching options were.  So I drew it out in a diagram and that made it much more clear to me.  If that helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The original title was to be “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of that!)
>>> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.    There are many, many diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio operations and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls for the receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab exercise” that you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand the concept.
>>> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ke7x.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289&sdata=Vm0EbZlIY7l%2BlaYsff7q5hyZ%2BQ1UTYUiOAiME5fDIqk%3D&reserved=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ke7x.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289&sdata=ZyBT4gyj%2FeHpFIVe6jzaHkbvmMz6QiLfpJq8%2FC8CXiQ%3D&reserved=0> has more information on all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of contents and ordering information.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> on behalf of Mike Markowski <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals
>>>
>>> Fred and all,
>>>
>>> Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
>>> I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
>>> direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
>>> what you've added?
>>>
>>> Tnx es 73!
>>> Mike ab3ap
>>>
>>>> On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>>> Hi Neil
>>>>
>>>> No never did a K2 book.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.
>>>>
>>>> The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  Sorry about that too.
>>>>
>>>> Fred KE7X
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Re: Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> On Behalf Of kevinr
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 10:30 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X
>
> The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase is currently being
> broadcast directly from the BBC.  Only one episode left to find out what
happens
> to Arthur Dent, Ford Prefect, Trillian, and her daughter Random.  As for
> Zaphod?  Well, he's just this guy, you know.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v379k/episodes/guide
>
> The first radio show came out in the late 70s.  Now, xx years later, we
are on

> part 6.
>
>     73,
>
>         Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>
> On 04/08/2018 07:09 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
> > Rats, wish I had thought of that!  Maybe the next book . . .
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: kevino z <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 7:36 AM
> > To: Joan
> > Cc: Cady, Fred; [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X
> >
> > Yeah, but my copy didn’t have DON’T PANIC written in large, friendly
letters....
> > 73 DE KK4YEL
> >
> > No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large
number
> of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !
> >
> >> On Apr 8, 2018, at 02:27, Joan <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’
Guide

> to the Elecraft KX2.
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >> ^_^ Joan
> >>
> >> FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .
> >>
> >> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
> >> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
> >>
> >>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s
> manuals?
> >>> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information
needed to
> operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s
manuals
> are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and
features of
> the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found during my 40+
years
> as an EE prof that there are various ways that people learn.  Some are
visual
> learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, some can gain
comprehension
> just be reading.  Others are more hands-on learners, needing the “lab
> experience” to cement their understanding of the concepts.  I’m a visual
and
> hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had trouble understanding how
the
> sub receiver worked and what the different antenna switching options were.
So I
> drew it out in a diagram and that made it much more clear to me.  If that
helped
> me, wouldn’t it help others?  So the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The
original
> title was to be “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of
that!)
> >>> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is
support
> for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.    There are many,
many
> diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver
alone.
> There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio operations
and in-
> depth explanations of topics such as the various controls for the
receiver’s AGC.
> And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab exercise” that you can do
sitting at
> your radio to make sure you understand the concept.
> >>> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course,
the pdf

> versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
> >>>
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ke7x.com&data=02
> %7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
> aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289&sdata=Vm0EbZlIY7l%2BlaY
> sff7q5hyZ%2BQ1UTYUiOAiME5fDIqk%3D&reserved=0<https://nam03.safelinks.p
> rotection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ke7x.com&data=02%7C01%7
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> vmMz6QiLfpJq8%2FC8CXiQ%3D&reserved=0> has more information on all 12
> current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of contents and ordering
information.

> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Fred
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: [hidden email]
> >>> <[hidden email]> on behalf of Mike Markowski
> >>> <[hidden email]>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
> >>> To: [hidden email]
> >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals
> >>>
> >>> Fred and all,
> >>>
> >>> Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft
manuals?

> >>> I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
> >>> direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me
> >>> wonder what you've added?
> >>>
> >>> Tnx es 73!
> >>> Mike ab3ap
> >>>
> >>>> On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
> >>>> Hi Neil
> >>>>
> >>>> No never did a K2 book.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.
> >>>>
> >>>> The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through
Elecraft.

> Sorry about that too.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fred KE7X
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Re: Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

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73,

Alan. G4GNX

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Flowers
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And don't forget your towel ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC

> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of kevinr
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 10:30 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X
>
> The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase is currently being
> broadcast directly from the BBC.  Only one episode left to find out what
happens
> to Arthur Dent, Ford Prefect, Trillian, and her daughter Random.  As for
> Zaphod?  Well, he's just this guy, you know.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v379k/episodes/guide
>
> The first radio show came out in the late 70s.  Now, xx years later, we
are on
> part 6.
>
>     73,
>
>         Kevin.  KD5ONS

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Re: Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

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On 2018-04-08 01:29 PM, kevinr wrote:
> The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase
I'll have to look that up. I haven't heard of the version of HHGTTG.

In addition to the other items mentions, there is also the question "What is
six times nine?".

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