Re: Italy Customs Duties
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Hi Gents,
First of all I believe it's wrong to talk about EU customs: Italy makes the difference! Look here: 1) Back in oct 2004 my K2 kit plus options came from Elecraft under codes 8525-2099-00 and 8529-9040-00. Total amount US$ 1.719,03 (shipping and hand. $105 included). Italy customs changed codes as "transmitting apparatous + other apparatous" and charged on it EU.280,77 (VAT, excise,fees and more)!! I remember when talking about it on air some english and german hams answered me: "IT'S A ROBBERY!!!" 2) Back in jan. 2005 my soldering 808 kit came from Tequipment: total amount US$ 235 (175+60 shipping). Italy customs charged on it Eu.87,74 coding as "parts of machines and soldering apparatous". I could continue but I believe it's enough and don't try to decode italian customs mistery!!!..... Regards, Peppino IS0YPS Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I shall now stop complaining about the UK customs. Maybe Elecraft should set up in the EU... 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:36:05 +0200 (CEST), Peppino Berria wrote: > Hi Gents, > > First of all I believe it's wrong to talk about EU > customs: Italy makes the difference! Look here: > 1) Back in oct 2004 my K2 kit plus options came from > Elecraft under codes 8525-2099-00 and 8529-9040-00. > Total amount US$ 1.719,03 (shipping and hand. $105 > included). Italy customs changed codes as > "transmitting apparatous + other apparatous" and > charged on it EU.280,77 (VAT, excise,fees and more)!! > I remember when talking about it on air some english > and german hams answered me: "IT'S A ROBBERY!!!" > 2) Back in jan. 2005 my soldering 808 kit came from > Tequipment: total amount US$ 235 (175+60 shipping). > Italy customs charged on it Eu.87,74 coding as "parts > of machines and soldering apparatous". > I could continue but I believe it's enough and don't > try to decode italian customs mistery!!!..... > Regards, Peppino IS0YPS > > > Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! > http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On 15/06/06, Stewart Baker <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Wow ! > I shall now stop complaining about the UK customs. > Maybe Elecraft should set up in the EU... You can buy Elecraft stuff in Germany: http://www.qrpproject.de/ It is a little more expensive than ordering from USA+shipping, but you can at least be assured not to fall into the claws of the customs, and, in my case, avoid paying 25% Danish VAT. > > 73 > Stewart G3RXQ > 73 Alex OZ9AEC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Peppino Berria
Peppino Berria wrote:
> First of all I believe it's wrong to talk about EU > customs: Italy makes the difference! I think I have the ultimate customs story. It happened in Israel in the early '80's. A fellow was bringing in a tape containing software from the IBM SHARE organization. These were various utility programs, etc., written by members of the organization and made available free to anyone who wanted them. The customs official asked him "how many programs are on the tape?" The guy responded "284" (or some similar number). The official then proceeded to multiply 284 by the price of Lotus 1-2-3 (I think about $150) and asked for duty at a 30% rate on the total! Needless to say, the guy let them keep his tape. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Am 15. Jun 2006, um 10:36:05 schrieb Peppino Berria:
> Hi Gents, > First of all I believe it's wrong to talk about EU > customs: Italy makes the difference! Look here: > 1) Back in oct 2004 my K2 kit plus options came from > Elecraft under codes 8525-2099-00 and 8529-9040-00. > Total amount US$ 1.719,03 (shipping and hand. $105 > included). Italy customs changed codes as > "transmitting apparatous + other apparatous" and > charged on it EU.280,77 (VAT, excise,fees and more)!! Peppino, the customs tariff really is EU wide, the VAT is not. With the elecraft code, and the paperwork that once was done by the DARC you should be able to get your K2 kit including all options in easily at 0% Customs. What is not EU wide is the VAT, but you do pay that on any goods you buy anywhere. According to Google, VAT in Italy is 20%. So of $1719, assuming an exchange rate of 1.20 USD to the EUR, youre at 1432 EUR import price, and thus you get a VAT in the range you mentioned. Should your invoice include real customs duty, you can get that usually back easily by sending in the additional documentation. Seriously, the only "robbery" thing happening to me in the past was when USPS sent their parcels via GLS and they charged a $20/parcel handling fee, but (from what I read somewhere due to massive customer complains USPS has reverted their european deliveries back to the national postal services. Now tho, what happened to my last 3 US purchases is that some lazy post officer did not do the customs forms & COD the fee, and directed the parcel to the local customs office, with "missing documentation" as an excuse, requiring me to deal with that directly (ie. go there personally & pick up the parcel). In all these cases, the invoices & paperwork were good & proper. I would be interested in hearing from other german hams if this happened only to me, or if this is something of a trend. MfG Mario Lorenz -- Mario Lorenz Internet: <[hidden email]> Ham Radio: DL5MLO@DB0ERF.#THR.DEU.EU * Newsflash: Microsoft announces Visual Edlin for Windows98! _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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--- Mario Lorenz <[hidden email]> ha scritto: > Peppino, > > the customs tariff really is EU wide, the VAT is > not. > With the elecraft code, and the paperwork that once > was done > by the DARC you should be able to get your K2 kit > including > all options in easily at 0% Customs. > > What is not EU wide is the VAT, but you do pay that > on any > goods you buy anywhere. According to Google, VAT in > Italy is 20%. > So of $1719, assuming an exchange rate of 1.20 USD > to the EUR, > youre at 1432 EUR import price, and thus you get a > VAT in the > range you mentioned. Mario, let me disagree. As a first, you're assuming the invoice total amount, including shipping and handling (105 $): no VAT is due on this part, normally. As a second, you must know that in Italy the carriers employees and store-keepers (UPS, TNT, FEDEX, GLS, etc.) fill the forms for customs duty: so there's no possibility to talk about the problem with customs staff. As a third, last but not least, a "kit" is a "kit" (didactic finalities), it's not a "final product": in other words, we can't assume a "radio-kit" (spare parts) like an efficient TX/RX equipment (final product). For that, in Italy there're different VAT degrees and 20% is the higher one (not luxury goods). 73, Peppino IS0YPS Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Peppino, > As a first, you're assuming the invoice total amount, > including shipping and handling (105 $): no VAT is due on > this part, normally. That´s definitively wrong for whole EC. VAT has to be paid on Shipping cost as well. 73 de Peter, DL2FI _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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