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k1htv

Re: K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly

Thanks Gary. It's a real pain when I'm in a pileup calling a DX station on SSB
and accidently hit the same or another memory button before the message playing
back has ended. When this happens, my transmission stops but the K3 stays in the
TX node during that time . If the DX stations quickly replies during after the
message ends I can not here him because the K3 hasn't yet switched back to
receive. Not good :-( .

Hope that this can be corrected in the near future rather than later distant
future. Thanks

73,
Rich - K1HTV

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From: Gary Surrency [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 18:36 PM
To: Rich - K1HTV
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly

Hi Rich,

This is how the DVR was originally designed and works, and there are plans in
the future to address this with a firmware change. No word on when that will
happen though.

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73, Gary AB7MY

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On 9/19/2011 12:18 PM, Rich - K1HTV wrote:

K3 DVR anomaly

I use the M1-M4 CW & DVR voice memories in my K3 to store various messages. I'm

using software versions MCU 4.39 / DSP 2.73 . On CW, pressing the same or

different memory button while a message is playing will result in the two

messages being chained, as they should be. However, when the same is tried with

the voice memories this does not occur. Instead of the audio in the two memories

playing sequentially, only the first memory is played. This is followed by a

period of silence before the K3 switches from transmit back into the receive

mode.

The amount of silence depends on the length of the recording in the memory of

the 2nd button that is pressed. I recorded a 2 second voice message in M1 and a

6 second message in M2. During the playback of the M1 message I pressed the M2

button. After the M1 message ended, there was 6 seconds of silence before the K3

went from transmit back into the receive mode. Again, the amount of silence

depends on the length of the message in the second button that is pressed.

I believe that this is a bug and not a feature :-). Are others experiencing the

same anomaly? If at all possible, please modify the K3 DVR software so it

allows the chaining of voice messages in the same manner as CW messages.

Thanks.

73,

Rich - K1HTV

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Rick Prather-2

Re: K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly

Rich,

If you have a delay at the end of the message then you recorded it that way.

I had to go back and record my DVR messages several times before I was able to hit the "rec" button immediately after I was done. Now if I give my call for instance the TX drops as soon as I finish with the call.

Rick
K6LE

On 9/19/2011, at 6:46 , Rich - K1HTV wrote:

> Thanks Gary. It's a real pain when I'm in a pileup calling a DX station on SSB
> and accidently hit the same or another memory button before the message playing
> back has ended. When this happens, my transmission stops but the K3 stays in the
> TX node during that time . If the DX stations quickly replies during after the
> message ends I can not here him because the K3 hasn't yet switched back to
> receive. Not good :-( .
>
> Hope that this can be corrected in the near future rather than later distant
> future. Thanks
>
> 73,
> Rich - K1HTV
>
>

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k1htv

Re: K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly

No Rick. All messages that I record in the K3 DVR memories have zero delay time
at the end of the recordings, when played back alone. If a second DVR message is
started while the first one is being played, there is a delay of silence equal
to the length of the message in the memory for the second button pressed.

Try it and let me know if you also experience what I have observed.

73,
Rich - K1HTV

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Prather [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 21:52 PM
To: Rich - K1HTV
Cc: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly

Rich,

If you have a delay at the end of the message then you recorded it that way.

I had to go back and record my DVR messages several times before I was able to
hit the "rec" button immediately after I was done. Now if I give my call for
instance the TX drops as soon as I finish with the call.

Rick
K6LE

On 9/19/2011, at 6:46 , Rich - K1HTV wrote:

> Thanks Gary. It's a real pain when I'm in a pileup calling a DX
> station on SSB and accidently hit the same or another memory button
> before the message playing back has ended. When this happens, my
> transmission stops but the K3 stays in the TX node during that time .
> If the DX stations quickly replies during after the message ends I can
> not here him because the K3 hasn't yet switched back to receive. Not good :-(
.
>
> Hope that this can be corrected in the near future rather than later
> distant future. Thanks
>
> 73,
> Rich - K1HTV
>
>

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly

Rich,

I don't know if it was purposely omitted from the manual, but there is
no mention of chaining for the DVR - there is explicit mention of
chaining for the CW memories.

I believe there is still a problem even if chaining of DVR messages is
not possible - it should not continue in TX mode for the duration of the
2nd message should chaining be disallowed.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/20/2011 7:38 AM, Rich - K1HTV wrote:

> No Rick. All messages that I record in the K3 DVR memories have zero delay time
> at the end of the recordings, when played back alone. If a second DVR message is
> started while the first one is being played, there is a delay of silence equal
> to the length of the message in the memory for the second button pressed.
>
> Try it and let me know if you also experience what I have observed.
>
> 73,
> Rich - K1HTV
>

Rick Prather-2

Re: K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly

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Rich,

I see what you are talking about.

I have never run across it because I never chain DVR messages nor do I know when I might want to.

Rick
K6LE

On 9/20/2011, at 4:38 , Rich - K1HTV wrote:

Gary Hinson

Re: K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly

I have done it accidentally a few times by fat-fingering the buttons,
normally on the PC (using K-Keys) rather than on the K3 front panel itself.

Funny how it only happens when the DX is finally calling me!

73
Gary Zl2iFB

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rick Prather
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2011 3:05 AM
> To: Rich - K1HTV
> Cc: 'Elecraft List'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly
>
> Rich,
>
> I see what you are talking about.
>
> I have never run across it because I never chain DVR messages
> nor do I know when I might want to.
>
> Rick
> K6LE
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/20/2011, at 4:38 , Rich - K1HTV wrote:
>
> > No Rick. All messages that I record in the K3 DVR memories
> have zero delay time
> > at the end of the recordings, when played back alone. If a
> second DVR message is
> > started while the first one is being played, there is a
> delay of silence equal
> > to the length of the message in the memory for the second
> button pressed.
> >
> > Try it and let me know if you also experience what I have observed.
> >
> > 73,
> > Rich - K1HTV
> >
> > = = =
>
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Fabio Mantovani

Re: K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly

I also see the issue.
I think it has to be fixed sooner or later, this behavior is useless....

Fabio
IZ4AFW - NZ1W - HI9/IZ4AFW

Il 21/09/2011 9.04, Gary Hinson ha scritto:

> I have done it accidentally a few times by fat-fingering the buttons,
> normally on the PC (using K-Keys) rather than on the K3 front panel itself.
>
> Funny how it only happens when the DX is finally calling me!
>
> 73
> Gary Zl2iFB
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rick Prather
>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2011 3:05 AM
>> To: Rich - K1HTV
>> Cc: 'Elecraft List'
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1HTV Re: K3 DVR anomaly
>>
>> Rich,
>>
>> I see what you are talking about.
>>
>> I have never run across it because I never chain DVR messages
>> nor do I know when I might want to.
>>
>> Rick
>> K6LE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/20/2011, at 4:38 , Rich - K1HTV wrote:
>>
>>> No Rick. All messages that I record in the K3 DVR memories
>> have zero delay time
>>> at the end of the recordings, when played back alone. If a
>> second DVR message is
>>> started while the first one is being played, there is a
>> delay of silence equal
>>> to the length of the message in the memory for the second
>> button pressed.
>>>
>>> Try it and let me know if you also experience what I have observed.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Rich - K1HTV
>>>
>>> = = =
>>
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