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N5GE-2

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

Alpha...

73,
Tom
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On Mon, 7 May 2012 17:50:01 -0600, "Cady, Fred" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Hi Dave,
>It's not beta yet. I don't know what they call it -- gamma???
>
>Cheers and 73,
>Fred
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>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:00 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)
>
>I cannot seem to locate where to download this; I can only see 4.48, no
>Beta...
>
>Clues for the clueless?
>
>Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV
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N5GE-2

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

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Bill,

What!

You mean you don't want them to pass it through three or four levels of
management, design, Gant chart creation, quality control and documentation
before releasing it to the developers!

What are you? A "bloated corporation" hater?

Remember! "We owe it to the stockholders to appear we are doing a good job!" ;o)

73,
Tom
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On Mon, 7 May 2012 19:25:17 -0700, Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> wrote:

>As a retired software developer, what amazes me is the way Wayne
>and company are performing their beta test. No NDA. It looks
>like almost anyone can sign up. Problems and future intentions
>are discussed in a public forum. I am blown away that a company
>would act this way. It is very refreshing.
>
>Cheers - Bill, AE6JV
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BobK8IA

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

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Compared to the many others that have weighed in already, I am a few days
late taking a look at the new firmware. It may have been worth the wait.

In a nutshell, the new 4.50/2.74 works extremely well. I've been waiting
for my K3 to really be able to perform in deep pileups, like I had thought it
should. With the new firmware, it may be very close now.

Even though it may be a few weeks (until CQWPX CW) when I can make a full
evaluation, in fairly deep pileup conditions, I don't need extended testing
to see a big improvement already. K6LL mentioned "the difference is
immediately obvious". I fully agree.

The ability to be able to extend THR settings has noticeably cleaned
things up. My sweet spot seems to be THR=15 and SLP=0 or 2. More evaluation to
come.

Tnx Elecraft Team for looking into this issue and releasing this
"pre-Beta".

73, Bob K8IA
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yo2liw

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

Hi everybody

In evaluating the new firmware I use 2xK3, #791 #5752

*
*

*Initial conditions*:

Rx Eq flat on booths rigs

BW 700Hz, no CW roofing only 2.7KHz (5poles)

AGC DCY –Soft

AGC SLP -003

AGC FST -100

K3 #791 THR=14-17 (usually 14)

K3 #5752 THR=5-8 (usually 7)

Test:

single signals, beacons around S3, S4

pileups 7O6T, 6O0CW

Observations:

1. Signals appears to be cleaner with higher THR, but the difference it
is not so big on my ears maybe because I am not dealing yet with a big
pileup with S3/S4 signals BUT the sound is more nice and clear indeed.
2. I have to take care more with audio level on higher THR, and once I
lost audio using THR=20.
3. QSB more intense on signals with newer firmware. Sometimes I even
lost the signal on 2.74DSP while it is still copied at 2.73DSP.
4. Overall it is more pleasant to listen to with the new firmware
version.

Future tests:

1. small expeditions in the field.
2. make some recordings.

73! Adi

Yo2liw

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wayne burdick

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

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Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available
later today. It will allow NR and autonotch at all settings, and will
fix the audio-dropout problem some have reported.

Wayne
N6KR

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VE3GNO Daniel

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

On my side I am ready to load it and stress little bit the radio flash with new build :-)
tnx Wayne

VE3GNO Daniel

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From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 10:59:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available
later today. It will allow NR and autonotch at all settings, and will
fix the audio-dropout problem some have reported.

Wayne
N6KR

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VE3GNO Daniel

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

Hi Guys,

Is any new alpha fw version? I was looking into my yesterday emails but could't find it, I am still on 4.50/2.74. Anything new?

VE3GNO Daniel

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available
later today. It will allow NR and autonotch at all settings, and will
fix the audio-dropout problem some have reported.

Wayne
N6KR

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wayne burdick

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

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Still testing.

Wayne

On May 9, 2012, at 8:42 AM, VE3GNO Daniel wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> Is any new alpha fw version? I was looking into my yesterday emails
> but could't find it, I am still on 4.50/2.74. Anything new?
>
> VE3GNO Daniel
>
> ________________________________
> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 10:59:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)
>
> Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available
> later today. It will allow NR and autonotch at all settings, and will
> fix the audio-dropout problem some have reported.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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W4CCS

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

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Hi All:

Just wondering if this was released.. If so, I cannot find it.

de W4CCS

On 5/8/2012 10:59 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available
> later today. It will allow NR and autonotch at all settings, and will
> fix the audio-dropout problem some have reported.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Guy, K2AV

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

Short version: It's still in the kitchen.

Long version:

This is still in pre-beta, being evaluated by a goodly number of hams
who volunteered to test it before all the cooties were cleaned out.
Some number of issues have been ferreted out, a couple serious, and
there were some deliberate omissions to start, which after Wayne deals
with them and reissues a public beta, won't be there to torture the
rest of the adoptees. Historically these pre-beta's have sometimes
gone through as many as 4 or 5 pre-beta cycles before being seen on
the web site...and for good reason :>).

If you don't like running into cooties, you'll just have to wait it
out. Or if that sounds like a fun game, send a note direct to Wayne
(not the reflector) to join the pre-beta self-flagellation club. Just
be warned that you run into stuff in the pre-beta club. That's the
point.

73, Guy.

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:58 AM, W4CCS <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> Just wondering if this was released.. If so, I cannot find it.
>
> de W4CCS
>
>
> On 5/8/2012 10:59 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available
>> later today. It will allow NR and autonotch at all settings, and will
>> fix the audio-dropout problem some have reported.
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
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W4CCS

Re: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

No thanks Guy. I'll just wait for the brave ones to work out all the
"cooties"..

Thanks

W4CCS

On 5/10/2012 11:32 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

> Short version: It's still in the kitchen.
>
> Long version:
>
> This is still in pre-beta, being evaluated by a goodly number of hams
> who volunteered to test it before all the cooties were cleaned out.
> Some number of issues have been ferreted out, a couple serious, and
> there were some deliberate omissions to start, which after Wayne deals
> with them and reissues a public beta, won't be there to torture the
> rest of the adoptees. Historically these pre-beta's have sometimes
> gone through as many as 4 or 5 pre-beta cycles before being seen on
> the web site...and for good reason :>).
>
> If you don't like running into cooties, you'll just have to wait it
> out. Or if that sounds like a fun game, send a note direct to Wayne
> (not the reflector) to join the pre-beta self-flagellation club. Just
> be warned that you run into stuff in the pre-beta club. That's the
> point.
>
> 73, Guy.
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:58 AM, W4CCS<[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Just wondering if this was released.. If so, I cannot find it.
>>
>> de W4CCS
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/2012 10:59 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available
>>> later today. It will allow NR and autonotch at all settings, and will
>>> fix the audio-dropout problem some have reported.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
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