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Re: K3 Headphone audio.

mikerodgerske5gbc
I have not noticed this problem with my setup. I have the headset plugged in the back. I do have a inline volume control built in to the headset but I think I keep at full volume most of the time to drown out the external speaker.

My only thought is, do you have speakers + phones selected? If not this may reduce the level to each.

I have seen external volume control add ons. They may however be stereo 1/8" devices.

Best of luck.
Mike R

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Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
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Re: K3 Headphone audio.

Carl Clawson-3
I hate to belabor this rather minor issue but since there have been a couple
"I don't get it" responses, here's why you haven't noticed it:

Speakers vary widely in their drive requirements. If you have speakers that
match your phones, lucky you. Mine don't. I use a set of bookshelf size hi
fi speakers that take many dB more drive than my phones.

It's not so bad having to turn the volume down but the monitor, since it
(rightly, IMO) does not adjust with the volume, also needs to go down. This
is a minor pain when you don't realize until you've already started
transmitting that you forgot to change it.

Another issue is that Speakers + Phones mode won't work well. If you're
comfortable with the phones, your guests can barely hear the speakers.

I very seldom use speakers any more.

73 -- Carl WS7L

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Re: K3 Headphone audio.

N7US
As I remember my Heathkit SB-100 from 1966 had an internal pot to provide
for reduced headphone volume when the front panel AF gain is set for
speakers.

Those who never use speakers can't relate, but I have wished for that option
when I was using unpowered speakers that didn't have a volume control.

Having the option would be nice.

73, Jim N7US



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I hate to belabor this rather minor issue but since there have been a couple
"I don't get it" responses, here's why you haven't noticed it:

Speakers vary widely in their drive requirements. If you have speakers that
match your phones, lucky you. Mine don't. I use a set of bookshelf size hi
fi speakers that take many dB more drive than my phones.

It's not so bad having to turn the volume down but the monitor, since it
(rightly, IMO) does not adjust with the volume, also needs to go down. This
is a minor pain when you don't realize until you've already started
transmitting that you forgot to change it.

Another issue is that Speakers + Phones mode won't work well. If you're
comfortable with the phones, your guests can barely hear the speakers.

I very seldom use speakers any more.

73 -- Carl WS7L



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Re: K3 Headphone audio.

Rose
As another poster has suggested ...

The situation may relate to the type / impedance of the speakers being
driven by the K3. In my case ... where there's no apparent imbalance ...
I'm using a set of COMspkrs from West Mountain Radio ... fine units,
BTW, and totally free of RFI, even when setting beside my THP KW.

73!

Ken - K0PP

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Jim McDonald <[hidden email]> wrote:

> As I remember my Heathkit SB-100 from 1966 had an internal pot to provide
> for reduced headphone volume when the front panel AF gain is set for
> speakers.
>
> Those who never use speakers can't relate, but I have wished for that
> option
> when I was using unpowered speakers that didn't have a volume control.
>
> Having the option would be nice.
>
> 73, Jim N7US
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> I hate to belabor this rather minor issue but since there have been a
> couple
> "I don't get it" responses, here's why you haven't noticed it:
>
> Speakers vary widely in their drive requirements. If you have speakers that
> match your phones, lucky you. Mine don't. I use a set of bookshelf size hi
> fi speakers that take many dB more drive than my phones.
>
> It's not so bad having to turn the volume down but the monitor, since it
> (rightly, IMO) does not adjust with the volume, also needs to go down. This
> is a minor pain when you don't realize until you've already started
> transmitting that you forgot to change it.
>
> Another issue is that Speakers + Phones mode won't work well. If you're
> comfortable with the phones, your guests can barely hear the speakers.
>
> I very seldom use speakers any more.
>
> 73 -- Carl WS7L
>
>
>
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Re: K3 Headphone audio.

Bill K9YEQ
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The headphone jack doesn't use the same output amp as the internal speaker.
To use the headphone jack you need external amplified speakers.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim McDonald
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:39 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Headphone audio.

As I remember my Heathkit SB-100 from 1966 had an internal pot to provide
for reduced headphone volume when the front panel AF gain is set for
speakers.

Those who never use speakers can't relate, but I have wished for that option
when I was using unpowered speakers that didn't have a volume control.

Having the option would be nice.

73, Jim N7US



-----Original Message-----


I hate to belabor this rather minor issue but since there have been a couple
"I don't get it" responses, here's why you haven't noticed it:

Speakers vary widely in their drive requirements. If you have speakers that
match your phones, lucky you. Mine don't. I use a set of bookshelf size hi
fi speakers that take many dB more drive than my phones.

It's not so bad having to turn the volume down but the monitor, since it
(rightly, IMO) does not adjust with the volume, also needs to go down. This
is a minor pain when you don't realize until you've already started
transmitting that you forgot to change it.

Another issue is that Speakers + Phones mode won't work well. If you're
comfortable with the phones, your guests can barely hear the speakers.

I very seldom use speakers any more.

73 -- Carl WS7L



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Re: K3 Headphone audio.

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

 > To use the headphone jack you need external amplified speakers.

Absolutely not.  I use "small" unamplified "bookshelf" speakers
and the Yamaha CM-500.  I have no issues of "imbalance" between
headphone and speaker levels.  The only thing I wish is that the
monitor level would automatically go to zero in SSB/AM/FM only
when using the speakers to prevent feedback.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/14/2012 4:50 PM, Bill K9YEQ wrote:

> The headphone jack doesn't use the same output amp as the internal speaker.
> To use the headphone jack you need external amplified speakers.
>
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim McDonald
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:39 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Headphone audio.
>
> As I remember my Heathkit SB-100 from 1966 had an internal pot to provide
> for reduced headphone volume when the front panel AF gain is set for
> speakers.
>
> Those who never use speakers can't relate, but I have wished for that option
> when I was using unpowered speakers that didn't have a volume control.
>
> Having the option would be nice.
>
> 73, Jim N7US
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> I hate to belabor this rather minor issue but since there have been a couple
> "I don't get it" responses, here's why you haven't noticed it:
>
> Speakers vary widely in their drive requirements. If you have speakers that
> match your phones, lucky you. Mine don't. I use a set of bookshelf size hi
> fi speakers that take many dB more drive than my phones.
>
> It's not so bad having to turn the volume down but the monitor, since it
> (rightly, IMO) does not adjust with the volume, also needs to go down. This
> is a minor pain when you don't realize until you've already started
> transmitting that you forgot to change it.
>
> Another issue is that Speakers + Phones mode won't work well. If you're
> comfortable with the phones, your guests can barely hear the speakers.
>
> I very seldom use speakers any more.
>
> 73 -- Carl WS7L
>
>
>
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Re: K3 Headphone audio.

Jim Brown-10
On 10/14/2012 2:24 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>   > To use the headphone jack you need external amplified speakers.
>
> Absolutely not.  I use "small" unamplified "bookshelf" speakers
> and the Yamaha CM-500.  I have no issues of "imbalance" between
> headphone and speaker levels.  The only thing I wish is that the
> monitor level would automatically go to zero in SSB/AM/FM only
> when using the speakers to prevent feedback.

My experience is exactly the same as Joe's.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: K3 Headphone audio.

Don Wilhelm-4
I also use the Yamaha CM-500 headset, and a pair of RS Optimus speakers
that I found in a 2nd hand store.  No problem between the two.  If you
are using inefficient speakers, then I can understand your problem, but
OTOH, there is an AF gain control that you can easily use when switching
from speakers to headphones.  The K3 cannot be "automatic" to all users
choices of speaker response and headphone sensitivity.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/14/2012 7:00 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 10/14/2012 2:24 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>    > To use the headphone jack you need external amplified speakers.
>>
>> Absolutely not.  I use "small" unamplified "bookshelf" speakers
>> and the Yamaha CM-500.  I have no issues of "imbalance" between
>> headphone and speaker levels.  The only thing I wish is that the
>> monitor level would automatically go to zero in SSB/AM/FM only
>> when using the speakers to prevent feedback.
> My experience is exactly the same as Joe's.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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