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Re: K3 RTTY

Mike Reublin
Thanks to some excellent suggestions, I was able to get receive working, but transmit is still a no-go.

I cannot get an ALC indication. I've run the sound card volume up and down it's range. I can hear the tones thru the K3 speaker, so they're getting in.

It's got to be something so simple I'll feel compelled to double dope-slap myself.

Mike

On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:38 AM, Mike Reublin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm trying to help a new K3 owner set up for RTTY using MMTTY and AFSK A. I have a Mac, he's running Win XP.
>
> I added a USB sound card (mic and fones) and stereo cables in and out. Win recognizes it, and I chose it in MMTTY and Win.
>
> Mark and space agree. Vox is on, and the vox settings should be OK. Tones are being generated. Levels are mid range in WIn volume controls.
>
> No transmit and no decode, just the random garbage from noise.
>
> Offline replies may be best, I can see this getting long.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L


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Re: K3 RTTY

Tony Kennedy
What's power and mic gain settings?  It's not in Test mode is it?

-KD0TSX


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Mike Reublin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks to some excellent suggestions, I was able to get receive working,
> but transmit is still a no-go.
>
> I cannot get an ALC indication. I've run the sound card volume up and down
> it's range. I can hear the tones thru the K3 speaker, so they're getting in.
>
> It's got to be something so simple I'll feel compelled to double dope-slap
> myself.
>
> Mike
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:38 AM, Mike Reublin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to help a new K3 owner set up for RTTY using MMTTY and AFSK
> A. I have a Mac, he's running Win XP.
> >
> > I added a USB sound card (mic and fones) and stereo cables in and out.
> Win recognizes it, and I chose it in MMTTY and Win.
> >
> > Mark and space agree. Vox is on, and the vox settings should be OK.
> Tones are being generated. Levels are mid range in WIn volume controls.
> >
> > No transmit and no decode, just the random garbage from noise.
> >
> > Offline replies may be best, I can see this getting long.
> >
> > 73, Mike NF4L
>
>
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Re: K3 RTTY

Don Wilhelm-4
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Mike,

Was that a plain USB soundcard, or is it a digital interface box (like
SignaLink, RigBlaster, etc.)?
If it is a digital interface box, most of those are set for microphone
level output, so dig into the documentation and find out how to set it
for Line Level output.  Line level is 50 to 100 times the amplitude of
mic level.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/8/2013 4:53 PM, Mike Reublin wrote:
> Thanks to some excellent suggestions, I was able to get receive working, but transmit is still a no-go.
>
> I cannot get an ALC indication. I've run the sound card volume up and down it's range. I can hear the tones thru the K3 speaker, so they're getting in.
>
> It's got to be something so simple I'll feel compelled to double dope-slap myself.
>
> Mike
>

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Re: K3 RTTY

Mike K2MK
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Hi Mike,

If you hear the tones in the K3 speaker then I assume you mean that you are hearing them through the monitor. This tells me that the tones are getting through to the K3 and that you are in transmit (red light). If you are in DATA Mode AFSK A you should be able to adjust the MIC knob on the front of the K3 for proper ALC indication. You should then be able to crank up RF output with the PWR knob (unless you are in TEST mode).

73,
Mike K2MK

Mike Reublin wrote
Thanks to some excellent suggestions, I was able to get receive working, but transmit is still a no-go.

I cannot get an ALC indication. I've run the sound card volume up and down it's range. I can hear the tones thru the K3 speaker, so they're getting in.

It's got to be something so simple I'll feel compelled to double dope-slap myself.

Mike NF4L
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Re: K3 RTTY

Richard E Neese
On 7/8/2013 5:17 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote:

> Is The vox on?
> On Jul 8, 2013 4:15 PM, "Mike K2MK" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> If you hear the tones in the K3 speaker then I assume you mean that you are
>> hearing them through the monitor. This tells me that the tones are getting
>> through to the K3 and that you are in transmit (red light). If you are in
>> DATA Mode AFSK A you should be able to adjust the MIC knob on the front of
>> the K3 for proper ALC indication. You should then be able to crank up RF
>> output with the PWR knob (unless you are in TEST mode).
>>
>> 73,
>> Mike K2MK
>>
>>
>> Mike Reublin wrote
>>> Thanks to some excellent suggestions, I was able to get receive working,
>>> but transmit is still a no-go.
>>>
>>> I cannot get an ALC indication. I've run the sound card volume up and
>> down
>>> it's range. I can hear the tones thru the K3 speaker, so they're getting
>>> in.
>>>
>>> It's got to be something so simple I'll feel compelled to double
>> dope-slap
>>> myself.
>>>
>>> Mike NF4L
>>
>>
>>
>>
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ok here are a few things to follow for rtty/digital with the kx3

1) buy the cable kit from Elecraft

2) use a app like fldigi and use hamlib under rig control to do the keying

3) follow this link http://k4mtx.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/kx3-fldigi-setup/

there is no need for a signal link or other digital interface card .

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Re: K3 RTTY

n7ws
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In MMTTY make sure that the correct sound card is selected for both TX and RX.  Only a problem of course, if you have more than one card.  (Don't ask me how I know this:-)

Also make sure that the Mark and Shift that you select in MMTTY match the Mark and Shift (pitch) in the K3.

Is the K3 actually going into transmit (red light on)?

Wes

--- On Mon, 7/8/13, Mike Reublin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Mike Reublin <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Monday, July 8, 2013, 2:53 PM
> Thanks to some excellent suggestions,
> I was able to get receive working, but transmit is still a
> no-go.
>
> I cannot get an ALC indication. I've run the sound card
> volume up and down it's range. I can hear the tones thru the
> K3 speaker, so they're getting in.
>
> It's got to be something so simple I'll feel compelled to
> double dope-slap myself.
>
> Mike
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:38 AM, Mike Reublin <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to help a new K3 owner set up for RTTY using
> MMTTY and AFSK A. I have a Mac, he's running Win XP.
> >
> > I added a USB sound card (mic and fones) and stereo
> cables in and out. Win recognizes it, and I chose it in
> MMTTY and Win.
> >
> > Mark and space agree. Vox is on, and the vox settings
> should be OK. Tones are being generated. Levels are mid
> range in WIn volume controls.
> >
> > No transmit and no decode, just the random garbage from
> noise.
> >
> > Offline replies may be best, I can see this getting
> long.
> >
> > 73, Mike NF4L
>
>
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Re: K3 RTTY

Mike Reublin
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To all who offered help and encouragement, a great big thank-you!

The secret was in setting MIC SEL to line in. Dunno how I missed it, but I did. Listen carefully, and you'll hear the sound of a self administered double dope-slap.

73, Mike NF4L

On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Mike Reublin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks to some excellent suggestions, I was able to get receive working, but transmit is still a no-go.
>
> I cannot get an ALC indication. I've run the sound card volume up and down it's range. I can hear the tones thru the K3 speaker, so they're getting in.
>
> It's got to be something so simple I'll feel compelled to double dope-slap myself.
>
> Mike
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:38 AM, Mike Reublin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to help a new K3 owner set up for RTTY using MMTTY and AFSK A. I have a Mac, he's running Win XP.
>>
>> I added a USB sound card (mic and fones) and stereo cables in and out. Win recognizes it, and I chose it in MMTTY and Win.
>>
>> Mark and space agree. Vox is on, and the vox settings should be OK. Tones are being generated. Levels are mid range in WIn volume controls.
>>
>> No transmit and no decode, just the random garbage from noise.
>>
>> Offline replies may be best, I can see this getting long.
>>
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>
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Re: K3 RTTY

Tony Kennedy
I'm surprised you could hear the tones through the rig with the wrong mic
setting.  Glad you got it resolved!

-KD0TSX

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013, Mike Reublin wrote:

> To all who offered help and encouragement, a great big thank-you!
>
> The secret was in setting MIC SEL to line in. Dunno how I missed it, but I
> did. Listen carefully, and you'll hear the sound of a self administered
> double dope-slap.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Mike Reublin <[hidden email] <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to some excellent suggestions, I was able to get receive working,
> but transmit is still a no-go.
> >
> > I cannot get an ALC indication. I've run the sound card volume up and
> down it's range. I can hear the tones thru the K3 speaker, so they're
> getting in.
> >
> > It's got to be something so simple I'll feel compelled to double
> dope-slap myself.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:38 AM, Mike Reublin <[hidden email] <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm trying to help a new K3 owner set up for RTTY using MMTTY and AFSK
> A. I have a Mac, he's running Win XP.
> >>
> >> I added a USB sound card (mic and fones) and stereo cables in and out.
> Win recognizes it, and I chose it in MMTTY and Win.
> >>
> >> Mark and space agree. Vox is on, and the vox settings should be OK.
> Tones are being generated. Levels are mid range in WIn volume controls.
> >>
> >> No transmit and no decode, just the random garbage from noise.
> >>
> >> Offline replies may be best, I can see this getting long.
> >>
> >> 73, Mike NF4L
> >
> >
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