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K5WA

Re: [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 15:35:10 +0000
From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor
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If this is in a contest, could you use the contesting software to trigger
the repeated CQs? From your comment, this would bypass the REPEAT DVR
function and allow the VFO B display, right? I have not tried it but that
is how I would attempt it if I was setting up for a contest.

Bob K5WA

That's a shame, since that is exactly how I want to use it, once I've
installed it and built the XV144.
Elecraft - can you make a mod that in some way displays VFOB freq while DVR
is playing - perhaps by a config param or if one changes VFOB freq while
it's playing, it shows the freq. instead?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
--
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only the world as it is, but the world as it will be.
-Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992)

On 9 Dec 2010, at 15:06, stewart_bakeruk wrote:

> Used it a VHF contest last weekend to call CQ on one frequency while using
the sub RX for S&P. It worked well except if you use the REPEAT DVR function
VFOB frequency is not displayed - you have to guess it...
>
> 73
> Stewart G3RXQ
> --- In [hidden email], Mike Rodgers <mikerodgerske5gbc@...>
wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone use the dvr for transmitting cq?
>

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M0XDF

Re: [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor

I'm using contest software that does not interface to any rigs (long story).
So I want to use the DVR to call, while I S&P.

--
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of
hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo,
Mother Teresa, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein.
-H. Jackson Brown, Jr., writer

On 9 Dec 2010, at 17:33, K5WA wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 15:35:10 +0000
> From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor
> the first time in
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> If this is in a contest, could you use the contesting software to trigger
> the repeated CQs? From your comment, this would bypass the REPEAT DVR
> function and allow the VFO B display, right? I have not tried it but that
> is how I would attempt it if I was setting up for a contest.
>
> Bob K5WA
>
>
>
>
> That's a shame, since that is exactly how I want to use it, once I've
> installed it and built the XV144.
> Elecraft - can you make a mod that in some way displays VFOB freq while DVR
> is playing - perhaps by a config param or if one changes VFOB freq while
> it's playing, it shows the freq. instead?
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
> --
> No sensible decision can be made any longer without taking into account not
> only the world as it is, but the world as it will be.
> -Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992)
>
> On 9 Dec 2010, at 15:06, stewart_bakeruk wrote:
>
>> Used it a VHF contest last weekend to call CQ on one frequency while using
> the sub RX for S&P. It worked well except if you use the REPEAT DVR function
> VFOB frequency is not displayed - you have to guess it...
>>
>> 73
>> Stewart G3RXQ
>> --- In [hidden email], Mike Rodgers <mikerodgerske5gbc@...>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone use the dvr for transmitting cq?

k6dgw

Re: [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor

In reply to this post by K5WA

Yep. I did it in ARRL SS Phone with N1MM. You just have to set a
repeat interval long enough for the CQ plus your desired listening time.
N1MM doesn't know anything about the DVK, it just sends the Mx tap
emulation command, so it has no idea when your CQ is finished. I think
this is true for most loggers.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org

On 12/9/2010 9:33 AM, K5WA wrote:

> If this is in a contest, could you use the contesting software to trigger
> the repeated CQs? From your comment, this would bypass the REPEAT DVR
> function and allow the VFO B display, right? I have not tried it but that
> is how I would attempt it if I was setting up for a contest.
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Andy Faber

Re: [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor

Fred,
In CQPWIN, I did work out a way to measure the precise length of each
message so you can have accurate repeat intervals for each message, even if
they are of differing lengths. If any logging software types are curious,
I'll be happy to share the approach taken.
73,andy, ae6y
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Jensen" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor

> Yep. I did it in ARRL SS Phone with N1MM. You just have to set a
> repeat interval long enough for the CQ plus your desired listening time.
> N1MM doesn't know anything about the DVK, it just sends the Mx tap
> emulation command, so it has no idea when your CQ is finished. I think
> this is true for most loggers.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 12/9/2010 9:33 AM, K5WA wrote:
>
>> If this is in a contest, could you use the contesting software to trigger
>> the repeated CQs? From your comment, this would bypass the REPEAT DVR
>> function and allow the VFO B display, right? I have not tried it but
>> that
>> is how I would attempt it if I was setting up for a contest.
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WA2SI

[K3] What Better Advertisement?

Hi all,

Just received my 5V7TT QSL card in the mail. It's one of those nice folded
ones. A pic of what rig adorns the rear cover? A K3, of course!

You just can't buy advertising like this... It simply must be earned.

As always, take care es...

Vy 73 de Bert
WA2SI

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Rob May-2

Re: [K3] What Better Advertisement?

A K3 + P3. Nice card, got mine a couple of days ago.
Rob
NV5E

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> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 20:58:30 -0500
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] What Better Advertisement?
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just received my 5V7TT QSL card in the mail. It's one of those nice folded
> ones. A pic of what rig adorns the rear cover? A K3, of course!
>
> You just can't buy advertising like this... It simply must be earned.
>
> As always, take care es...
>
> Vy 73 de Bert
> WA2SI
>
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Johnny Siu

Digital voice recorderfor

In reply to this post by Andy Faber

Hello Gentleman,

If possible, it is always convenient to have the ability to record longer
message say 20-30 secconds in one of the M1 - M4. Perhaps, Elecraft may wish
to search for newer components to upgrade the existing KDVR3.

Icom and Yaesu radio or even the MFJ Voice Keyer can record a much longer
message in at least one of the memories.

Of course, I have no knowledge of the cost of production for a new KDVR3
with the ability to record longer messages. If the cost increase in only
marginal, this feasibility in message length will be an operation convenience to
operator and hence better marketability of KDVR3.

In the firmware level, I don't know whether it is possible for the operator to
re-allocate the recording time among the M1-M4 and AF recording. For example,
M1-max 30 sec, M2-max 20 sec, M3 to M4 - max 10 sec. The remaining recording
time will be left for AF recording which will then be shorten to less than the
current 90 seconds.

The latest version of KDVR3 only gives 10 sec per M1-M4 which is too short.
It is not quite enough to record a proper standard CQ calling such as 'cq cq cq
vr2xmc vr2xmc vr2xmc (phonetics) calling and standing by'

cheers,

Johnny VR2XMC

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寄件人﹕ Andrew Faber <[hidden email]>
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傳送日期﹕ 2010/12/10 (五) 9:23:28 AM
主題： Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor

Fred,
In CQPWIN, I did work out a way to measure the precise length of each
message so you can have accurate repeat intervals for each message, even if
they are of differing lengths. If any logging software types are curious,
I'll be happy to share the approach taken.
73,andy, ae6y
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Jensen" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor

M0XDF

Re: Digital voice recorderfor

Can I suggest the 'and standing by' be dropped then, I always feel it's kind of superflious! By calling CQ, people just assuming you are standing by for a response, otherwise why would you have called CQ?
If you feel the need for something to indicate the end of the CQ call, how about QSX (I am listening for) or QRV (I am ready).
Then your message would be:
> 'cq cq cq vr2xmc vr2xmc vr2xmc (phonetics) QSX'

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
--
The lame man who keeps the right road outstrips the runner who takes a wrong one. The more active and swift the latter is, the further he will go astray.
-Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626)

On 10 Dec 2010, at 02:35, Johnny Siu wrote:

> Hello Gentleman,
>
> If possible, it is always convenient to have the ability to record longer
> message say 20-30 secconds in one of the M1 - M4. Perhaps, Elecraft may wish
> to search for newer components to upgrade the existing KDVR3.
>
> Icom and Yaesu radio or even the MFJ Voice Keyer can record a much longer
> message in at least one of the memories.
>
> Of course, I have no knowledge of the cost of production for a new KDVR3
> with the ability to record longer messages. If the cost increase in only
> marginal, this feasibility in message length will be an operation convenience to
> operator and hence better marketability of KDVR3.
>
> In the firmware level, I don't know whether it is possible for the operator to
> re-allocate the recording time among the M1-M4 and AF recording. For example,
> M1-max 30 sec, M2-max 20 sec, M3 to M4 - max 10 sec. The remaining recording
> time will be left for AF recording which will then be shorten to less than the
> current 90 seconds.
>
> The latest version of KDVR3 only gives 10 sec per M1-M4 which is too short.
> It is not quite enough to record a proper standard CQ calling such as 'cq cq cq
> vr2xmc vr2xmc vr2xmc (phonetics) calling and standing by'

Johnny Siu

Re: Digital voice recorderfor

Yes, in fact, what I am doing now for the 10 sec only message is "CQ CQ CQ vr2xmc vr2xmc ( phonetics) "

Sent from my iPhone 4

"David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> 於 2010年12月10日下午4:33 寫道：

> Can I suggest the 'and standing by' be dropped then, I always feel it's kind of superflious! By calling CQ, people just assuming you are standing by for a response, otherwise why would you have called CQ?
> If you feel the need for something to indicate the end of the CQ call, how about QSX (I am listening for) or QRV (I am ready).
> Then your message would be:
>> 'cq cq cq vr2xmc vr2xmc vr2xmc (phonetics) QSX'
>
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
> --
> The lame man who keeps the right road outstrips the runner who takes a wrong one. The more active and swift the latter is, the further he will go astray.
> -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626)
>
> On 10 Dec 2010, at 02:35, Johnny Siu wrote:
>
>> Hello Gentleman,
>>
>> If possible, it is always convenient to have the ability to record longer
>> message say 20-30 secconds in one of the M1 - M4. Perhaps, Elecraft may wish
>> to search for newer components to upgrade the existing KDVR3.
>>
>> Icom and Yaesu radio or even the MFJ Voice Keyer can record a much longer
>> message in at least one of the memories.
>>
>> Of course, I have no knowledge of the cost of production for a new KDVR3
>> with the ability to record longer messages. If the cost increase in only
>> marginal, this feasibility in message length will be an operation convenience to
>> operator and hence better marketability of KDVR3.
>>
>> In the firmware level, I don't know whether it is possible for the operator to
>> re-allocate the recording time among the M1-M4 and AF recording. For example,
>> M1-max 30 sec, M2-max 20 sec, M3 to M4 - max 10 sec. The remaining recording
>> time will be left for AF recording which will then be shorten to less than the
>> current 90 seconds.
>>
>> The latest version of KDVR3 only gives 10 sec per M1-M4 which is too short.
>> It is not quite enough to record a proper standard CQ calling such as 'cq cq cq
>> vr2xmc vr2xmc vr2xmc (phonetics) calling and standing by'
>
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Doug Turnbull

Re: Digital voice recorderfor

In reply to this post by Johnny Siu

Would it be possible to allow an option where two of the memories might be combined to give a 20 second period with only one button being pressed to play back. I am fortunate here to have 15 second memory and so it is not a problem for me. The K3 is much better than my other rig with built in memory in which two of the memories are only 5 seconds long for phone recording. Whatever the length we will always want more but fifteen seconds does seem to be very adequate while perhaps ten seconds is tight.

73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Johnny Siu
Sent: 10 December 2010 02:36
To: Andrew Faber; [hidden email]; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Digital voice recorderfor

Hello Gentleman,

If possible, it is always convenient to have the ability to record longer
message say 20-30 secconds in one of the M1 - M4. Perhaps, Elecraft may wish
to search for newer components to upgrade the existing KDVR3.

Icom and Yaesu radio or even the MFJ Voice Keyer can record a much longer
message in at least one of the memories.

Of course, I have no knowledge of the cost of production for a new KDVR3
with the ability to record longer messages. If the cost increase in only
marginal, this feasibility in message length will be an operation convenience to
operator and hence better marketability of KDVR3.

In the firmware level, I don't know whether it is possible for the operator to
re-allocate the recording time among the M1-M4 and AF recording. For example,
M1-max 30 sec, M2-max 20 sec, M3 to M4 - max 10 sec. The remaining recording
time will be left for AF recording which will then be shorten to less than the
current 90 seconds.

The latest version of KDVR3 only gives 10 sec per M1-M4 which is too short.
It is not quite enough to record a proper standard CQ calling such as 'cq cq cq
vr2xmc vr2xmc vr2xmc (phonetics) calling and standing by'

cheers,

Johnny VR2XMC

----- 郵件原件 ----
寄件人﹕ Andrew Faber <[hidden email]>
收件人﹕ [hidden email]; Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
傳送日期﹕ 2010/12/10 (五) 9:23:28 AM
主題： Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor

Fred,
In CQPWIN, I did work out a way to measure the precise length of each
message so you can have accurate repeat intervals for each message, even if
they are of differing lengths. If any logging software types are curious,
I'll be happy to share the approach taken.
73,andy, ae6y
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Jensen" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor

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