Re: KAT500 problem
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Following up on my High SWR problems (no response from Elecraft Support on Friday to my email):
I disconnected the KAT500 and KPA500 and connected A4S feed-line directly to the K3. It loaded beautifully and the internal tuner read 1.0-1. Good, not the feed line or the K3… Next I connected the KPA 500 (without the KAT500) and turned the K3 on….the display "froze" a few characters into the "welcome K4TM" message and the power button would not turn the K3 off - I had to turn the Astron 35M off to cut power to the K3. When I turned the K3 on again, I get a blank screen and must shut the power supply off to turn the K3. I've had a Kenwood 520SE and a 570D and a TenTec Omni Vii - Drake TR-4 before all that and I know the K3 is smarter than I am but I have never encountered issues like this before! Any ideas? Thanks for listening and any help that is directed my way! And I guess I won't be checking into the Elecraft net today as a result. 73, Cary, K4TM On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> wrote: > FYI….H > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Fwd: KAT500 problem >> Date: January 11, 2013 2:23:22 PM EST >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >> Bcc: Ralston Gober <[hidden email]>, Barry + Mary Rounds <[hidden email]> >> >> More info on my problem. I bypassed the KPA500 and KAT500, turned them both off, along with the K3 >> I turned the K3-100 on and activated the internal auto tuner and it worked its magic and said SWR was 1.1 >> I then keyed the mic and made a call and within 5 seconds the K3 shut down…the display blinked a few times and no ERR message showed before it shut down. >> Perplexed, you bet! >> 73, >> Cary, K4TM >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> >>> Subject: KAT500 problem >>> Date: January 11, 2013 2:15:37 PM EST >>> To: [hidden email] >>> >>> HELP, please. >>> I have the K3-100, KPA-500, and KAT-100 (factory built tuner). I know to activate the tuner before turning the K3 on (it does make a difference). >>> When I turned everything on for a schedule today, I am experiencing high SWR and the K3 shuts down…also, when I go to tune the KAT500 and tap the TUNE button, the AUTO begins to flash but when I key the mic (HEIL MD-2) with audio it clicks and clacks for awhile and SWR drops to 1.2 >>> When I then put the KPA-500 in operate, I get red lights for high SWR and the amp goes to STBY with the FAULT light lit and the K3 shows FAULT 9 which the manual is "excessive reflected power (high SWR). Well, the KAT500 says otherwise and I am at a loss to figure it out. >>> My antenna is a Cushcraft A4S with 110 feet of high quality RG-8 and everything was working just fine a week or so ago. >>> Last Sunday, I did turn the K3 on and my Vibroplex keyer was connected. I came in about 30" later and noticed an ERROR message: ERR KEY Apparently the Viproplex was keyed when I turned power on and I have disconnected it - could this have anything to do with it? >>> Appreciate any help you can give. >>> 73, >>> Cary, K4TM >>> >>> H. Cary III >>> [hidden email] >>> >>> >>> >> >> H. Cary III >> [hidden email] >> >> >> > > H. Cary III > [hidden email] > > > H. Cary III [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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230 your time was actually 530 on the west coast which is where Elecraft is based out of chances are they did not get the email prior to closing. 73 Greg On Jan 13, 2013 8:38 AM, "Hunsdon Cary III" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Following up on my High SWR problems (no response from Elecraft Support on > Friday to my email): > I disconnected the KAT500 and KPA500 and connected A4S feed-line directly > to the K3. It loaded beautifully and the internal tuner read 1.0-1. Good, > not the feed line or the K3… > Next I connected the KPA 500 (without the KAT500) and turned the K3 > on….the display "froze" a few characters into the "welcome K4TM" message > and the power button would not turn the K3 off - I had to turn the Astron > 35M off to cut power to the K3. When I turned the K3 on again, I get a > blank screen and must shut the power supply off to turn the K3. > I've had a Kenwood 520SE and a 570D and a TenTec Omni Vii - Drake TR-4 > before all that and I know the K3 is smarter than I am but I have never > encountered issues like this before! Any ideas? > Thanks for listening and any help that is directed my way! > And I guess I won't be checking into the Elecraft net today as a result. > 73, > Cary, K4TM > On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > FYI….H > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > >> From: Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> > >> Subject: Fwd: KAT500 problem > >> Date: January 11, 2013 2:23:22 PM EST > >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > >> Bcc: Ralston Gober <[hidden email]>, Barry + Mary Rounds < > [hidden email]> > >> > >> More info on my problem. I bypassed the KPA500 and KAT500, turned them > both off, along with the K3 > >> I turned the K3-100 on and activated the internal auto tuner and it > worked its magic and said SWR was 1.1 > >> I then keyed the mic and made a call and within 5 seconds the K3 shut > down…the display blinked a few times and no ERR message showed before it > shut down. > >> Perplexed, you bet! > >> 73, > >> Cary, K4TM > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >>> From: Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> > >>> Subject: KAT500 problem > >>> Date: January 11, 2013 2:15:37 PM EST > >>> To: [hidden email] > >>> > >>> HELP, please. > >>> I have the K3-100, KPA-500, and KAT-100 (factory built tuner). I > know to activate the tuner before turning the K3 on (it does make a > difference). > >>> When I turned everything on for a schedule today, I am > experiencing high SWR and the K3 shuts down…also, when I go to tune the > KAT500 and tap the TUNE button, the AUTO begins to flash but when I key the > mic (HEIL MD-2) with audio it clicks and clacks for awhile and SWR drops to > 1.2 > >>> When I then put the KPA-500 in operate, I get red lights for high > SWR and the amp goes to STBY with the FAULT light lit and the K3 shows > FAULT 9 which the manual is "excessive reflected power (high SWR). Well, > the KAT500 says otherwise and I am at a loss to figure it out. > >>> My antenna is a Cushcraft A4S with 110 feet of high quality > RG-8 and everything was working just fine a week or so ago. > >>> Last Sunday, I did turn the K3 on and my Vibroplex keyer was > connected. I came in about 30" later and noticed an ERROR message: ERR KEY > Apparently the Viproplex was keyed when I turned power on and I have > disconnected it - could this have anything to do with it? > >>> Appreciate any help you can give. > >>> 73, > >>> Cary, K4TM > >>> > >>> H. Cary III > >>> [hidden email] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> H. Cary III > >> [hidden email] > >> > >> > >> > > > > H. Cary III > > [hidden email] > > > > > > > > H. Cary III > [hidden email] > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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You're right I'm sorry I apologize. I'm on pain medication from having my
shoulder replaced 2 days ago and I'm still a bit on the loopy Side. I am able to do text to speech on email but that's about it. On Jan 13, 2013 9:04 AM, "Hunsdon Cary III" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Actually Greg, 230pm on the east coast is 1130am in California.... > Cary > > Sent from my iPhone in Lynchburg VA. > > On Jan 13, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Cary, > > 230 your time was actually 530 on the west coast which is where Elecraft > is based out of chances are they did not get the email prior to closing. > > 73 > Greg > On Jan 13, 2013 8:38 AM, "Hunsdon Cary III" <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Following up on my High SWR problems (no response from Elecraft Support >> on Friday to my email): >> I disconnected the KAT500 and KPA500 and connected A4S feed-line directly >> to the K3. It loaded beautifully and the internal tuner read 1.0-1. Good, >> not the feed line or the K3… >> Next I connected the KPA 500 (without the KAT500) and turned the K3 >> on….the display "froze" a few characters into the "welcome K4TM" message >> and the power button would not turn the K3 off - I had to turn the Astron >> 35M off to cut power to the K3. When I turned the K3 on again, I get a >> blank screen and must shut the power supply off to turn the K3. >> I've had a Kenwood 520SE and a 570D and a TenTec Omni Vii - Drake TR-4 >> before all that and I know the K3 is smarter than I am but I have never >> encountered issues like this before! Any ideas? >> Thanks for listening and any help that is directed my way! >> And I guess I won't be checking into the Elecraft net today as a result. >> 73, >> Cary, K4TM >> On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> > FYI….H >> > >> > Begin forwarded message: >> > >> >> From: Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> >> >> Subject: Fwd: KAT500 problem >> >> Date: January 11, 2013 2:23:22 PM EST >> >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >> >> Bcc: Ralston Gober <[hidden email]>, Barry + Mary Rounds < >> [hidden email]> >> >> >> >> More info on my problem. I bypassed the KPA500 and KAT500, turned >> them both off, along with the K3 >> >> I turned the K3-100 on and activated the internal auto tuner and it >> worked its magic and said SWR was 1.1 >> >> I then keyed the mic and made a call and within 5 seconds the K3 shut >> down…the display blinked a few times and no ERR message showed before it >> shut down. >> >> Perplexed, you bet! >> >> 73, >> >> Cary, K4TM >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> >>> From: Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> >> >>> Subject: KAT500 problem >> >>> Date: January 11, 2013 2:15:37 PM EST >> >>> To: [hidden email] >> >>> >> >>> HELP, please. >> >>> I have the K3-100, KPA-500, and KAT-100 (factory built tuner). I >> know to activate the tuner before turning the K3 on (it does make a >> difference). >> >>> When I turned everything on for a schedule today, I am >> experiencing high SWR and the K3 shuts down…also, when I go to tune the >> KAT500 and tap the TUNE button, the AUTO begins to flash but when I key the >> mic (HEIL MD-2) with audio it clicks and clacks for awhile and SWR drops to >> 1.2 >> >>> When I then put the KPA-500 in operate, I get red lights for >> high SWR and the amp goes to STBY with the FAULT light lit and the K3 shows >> FAULT 9 which the manual is "excessive reflected power (high SWR). Well, >> the KAT500 says otherwise and I am at a loss to figure it out. >> >>> My antenna is a Cushcraft A4S with 110 feet of high quality >> RG-8 and everything was working just fine a week or so ago. >> >>> Last Sunday, I did turn the K3 on and my Vibroplex keyer was >> connected. I came in about 30" later and noticed an ERROR message: ERR KEY >> Apparently the Viproplex was keyed when I turned power on and I have >> disconnected it - could this have anything to do with it? >> >>> Appreciate any help you can give. >> >>> 73, >> >>> Cary, K4TM >> >>> >> >>> H. Cary III >> >>> [hidden email] >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> H. Cary III >> >> [hidden email] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > H. Cary III >> > [hidden email] >> > >> > >> > >> >> H. Cary III >> [hidden email] >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In your original post you say that you turned on the KPA100 in the K3. You should have the KPA100 turned off when using the KAT500. The KAT100 is not needed when using the KAT500. Make sure that when you are tuning with the KAT500 the TUNE POWER is set to 25W. Below 20W will not give an accurate tune-up. Instructions for adjusting the TUNE POWER are in the K3 manual. Also, you should tune the KAT500 by using the TUNE button on the K3. Instructions for using the TUNE button are also in the K3 manual. My recommendation is that you check all of your KAT500 and KPA500 connections carefully by referring to the manuals for each one and then read the tuning procedure for the KAT500 in the manual, following each step carefully. Good luck! 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:37:53 -0500, Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> wrote: >Following up on my High SWR problems (no response from Elecraft Support on Friday to my email): >I disconnected the KAT500 and KPA500 and connected A4S feed-line directly to the K3. It loaded beautifully and the internal tuner read 1.0-1. Good, not the feed line or the K3 >Next I connected the KPA 500 (without the KAT500) and turned the K3 on .the display "froze" a few characters into the "welcome K4TM" message and the power button would not turn the K3 off - I had to turn the Astron 35M off to cut power to the K3. When I turned the K3 on again, I get a blank screen and must shut the power supply off to turn the K3. >I've had a Kenwood 520SE and a 570D and a TenTec Omni Vii - Drake TR-4 before all that and I know the K3 is smarter than I am but I have never encountered issues like this before! Any ideas? >Thanks for listening and any help that is directed my way! >And I guess I won't be checking into the Elecraft net today as a result. >73, >Cary, K4TM >On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> FYI .H >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> >>> Subject: Fwd: KAT500 problem >>> Date: January 11, 2013 2:23:22 PM EST >>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >>> Bcc: Ralston Gober <[hidden email]>, Barry + Mary Rounds <[hidden email]> >>> >>> More info on my problem. I bypassed the KPA500 and KAT500, turned them both off, along with the K3 >>> I turned the K3-100 on and activated the internal auto tuner and it worked its magic and said SWR was 1.1 >>> I then keyed the mic and made a call and within 5 seconds the K3 shut down the display blinked a few times and no ERR message showed before it shut down. >>> Perplexed, you bet! >>> 73, >>> Cary, K4TM >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> >>>> Subject: KAT500 problem >>>> Date: January 11, 2013 2:15:37 PM EST >>>> To: [hidden email] >>>> >>>> HELP, please. >>>> I have the K3-100, KPA-500, and KAT-100 (factory built tuner). I know to activate the tuner before turning the K3 on (it does make a difference). >>>> When I turned everything on for a schedule today, I am experiencing high SWR and the K3 shuts down also, when I go to tune the KAT500 and tap the TUNE button, the AUTO begins to flash but when I key the mic (HEIL MD-2) with audio it clicks and clacks for awhile and SWR drops to 1.2 >>>> When I then put the KPA-500 in operate, I get red lights for high SWR and the amp goes to STBY with the FAULT light lit and the K3 shows FAULT 9 which the manual is "excessive reflected power (high SWR). Well, the KAT500 says otherwise and I am at a loss to figure it out. >>>> My antenna is a Cushcraft A4S with 110 feet of high quality RG-8 and everything was working just fine a week or so ago. >>>> Last Sunday, I did turn the K3 on and my Vibroplex keyer was connected. I came in about 30" later and noticed an ERROR message: ERR KEY Apparently the Viproplex was keyed when I turned power on and I have disconnected it - could this have anything to do with it? >>>> Appreciate any help you can give. >>>> 73, >>>> Cary, K4TM >>>> >>>> H. Cary III >>>> [hidden email] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> H. Cary III >>> [hidden email] >>> >>> >>> >> >> H. Cary III >> [hidden email] >> >> >> > >H. Cary III >[hidden email] > > > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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In the KAT500 manual it says the the K3 will not initialise properly unless
power is applied to the KAT500 before switching on the K3. Maybe this is what happened if, say, you left a DB15 cable from the KAT500 connected to the K3 when you connected coax directly from the K3 to the KPA500. 73 and good luck Geoff G3UCK -----Original Message----- From: Hunsdon Cary III Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:37 PM To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email] ; Mark n2qt ; Henry and Jo Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 problem Following up on my High SWR problems (no response from Elecraft Support on Friday to my email): I disconnected the KAT500 and KPA500 and connected A4S feed-line directly to the K3. It loaded beautifully and the internal tuner read 1.0-1. Good, not the feed line or the K3… Next I connected the KPA 500 (without the KAT500) and turned the K3 on….the display "froze" a few characters into the "welcome K4TM" message and the power button would not turn the K3 off - I had to turn the Astron 35M off to cut power to the K3. When I turned the K3 on again, I get a blank screen and must shut the power supply off to turn the K3. I've had a Kenwood 520SE and a 570D and a TenTec Omni Vii - Drake TR-4 before all that and I know the K3 is smarter than I am but I have never encountered issues like this before! Any ideas? Thanks for listening and any help that is directed my way! And I guess I won't be checking into the Elecraft net today as a result. 73, Cary, K4TM On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> wrote: > FYI….H > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Fwd: KAT500 problem >> Date: January 11, 2013 2:23:22 PM EST >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >> Bcc: Ralston Gober <[hidden email]>, Barry + Mary Rounds >> <[hidden email]> >> >> More info on my problem. I bypassed the KPA500 and KAT500, turned them >> both off, along with the K3 >> I turned the K3-100 on and activated the internal auto tuner and it >> worked its magic and said SWR was 1.1 >> I then keyed the mic and made a call and within 5 seconds the K3 shut >> down…the display blinked a few times and no ERR message showed before it >> shut down. >> Perplexed, you bet! >> 73, >> Cary, K4TM >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Hunsdon Cary III <[hidden email]> >>> Subject: KAT500 problem >>> Date: January 11, 2013 2:15:37 PM EST >>> To: [hidden email] >>> >>> HELP, please. >>> I have the K3-100, KPA-500, and KAT-100 (factory built tuner). I know >>> to activate the tuner before turning the K3 on (it does make a >>> difference). >>> When I turned everything on for a schedule today, I am experiencing high >>> SWR and the K3 shuts down…also, when I go to tune the KAT500 and tap the >>> TUNE button, the AUTO begins to flash but when I key the mic (HEIL MD-2) >>> with audio it clicks and clacks for awhile and SWR drops to 1.2 >>> When I then put the KPA-500 in operate, I get red lights for high SWR >>> and the amp goes to STBY with the FAULT light lit and the K3 shows FAULT >>> 9 which the manual is "excessive reflected power (high SWR). Well, the >>> KAT500 says otherwise and I am at a loss to figure it out. >>> My antenna is a Cushcraft A4S with 110 feet of high quality RG-8 >>> and everything was working just fine a week or so ago. >>> Last Sunday, I did turn the K3 on and my Vibroplex keyer was >>> connected. I came in about 30" later and noticed an ERROR message: ERR >>> KEY Apparently the Viproplex was keyed when I turned power on and I >>> have disconnected it - could this have anything to do with it? >>> Appreciate any help you can give. >>> 73, >>> Cary, K4TM >>> >>> H. Cary III >>> [hidden email] >>> >>> >>> >> >> H. Cary III >> [hidden email] >> >> >> > > H. Cary III > [hidden email] > > > H. Cary III [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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