Re: KSYN3A_transmit_frequency_jump
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Sorry for the blank first message. With so many email lists I'm signed
up for, it's hard to keep track of the ones that either bounce HTML-formatted messages, or just strip it off, like apparently this one did. Here goes: I ran my K3 with the new KSYN3A boards on the MI QSO party for about 10.5 hours yesterday, the first SSB event I've done with the new boards (prior CQ WPX CW for a couple of hours worked fine, using S&P). I spend long periods of time camped out on various frequencies/bands, calling CQ MiQP and working stations. I noticed a number of callers coming back to me off frequency by a couple of hundred hertz, and started 'chasing' them with the RIT, which only seemed to make matters worse. When they came back each time, it seemed they were on a different frequency. Eventually, I had two different stations tell me (without prompting) that my transmit frequency was shifting around, and that they were chasing me around! One station thought maybe I had mistaken my XIT for my RIT (nope). Not knowing what to make of it, and being in the middle of the QSO party, I wasn't eager to mess around trying to debug it, so I just turned off the RIT and managed without it. I still had folks occasionally calling me noticeably off frequency for the rest of the evening. I still don't know if the RIT aggravated the situation or not, and I spend some time this afternoon looking through my Elecraft mail list archive for anyone else that may be experiencing anything similar, and turned up empty-handed. There are two things also to know: 1) I was using the latest N1MM+, but was not using it to transmit, i.e. I was using the DVR built-in to the K3 instead of function keys on N1MM+. In CW contests, I do the opposite, preferring to use the CW memories in N1MM+. 2) I have the RIT knob set to do fast tuning (on SSB that means 500 Hz/click) when the RIT/XIT are disengaged. One other observation: At no time did I see the transmit frequency on the K3 move. Only the displayed receive frequency moved when RIT was engaged. I'm baffled as to whether this is real or not, but this occurred after I installed the new KSYN3A boards (I have the sub-receiver) without a hitch. Maybe the guys calling me had their RIT turned on, and thus were calling me off frequency from where they spotted me. Ideas anyone? I do have the means to monitor my transmit output via a portable HF transceiver, but haven't tried that yet. I'm also running the latest non-Beta firmware in the K3. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A_transmit_frequency_jumping_around? From: "Dave New, N8SBE" <[hidden email]> Date: Sun, April 19, 2015 2:45 pm To: [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: KSYN3A_transmit_frequency_jump
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Dave:
Yesterday I was getting my car ready for next weekend's Florida QSO Party and also dubbing around in the MI, NE, SD, and Ontario QSO parties. As it turns out, you were one of the loudest stations and several times I just left my K3 tuned to you while doing stuff in the car. I don't recall hearing any kind of frequency jumping/sliding around from you. All totaled, I probably listened to you for the better part of an hour. Admittedly, a small sample, but there you go. As a general comment, many operators, even with today's newer transceivers, have difficulty tuning in stations. I can't say why... skill, age, familarity with their equipment etc., but I hear it a lot when operating from the Caribbean in a contest. 73 charlie, k1xx/m On 4/19/2015 2:54 PM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > Sorry for the blank first message. With so many email lists I'm signed > up for, it's hard to keep track of the ones that either bounce > HTML-formatted messages, or just strip it off, like apparently this one > did. Here goes: > > I ran my K3 with the new KSYN3A boards on the MI QSO party for about > 10.5 hours yesterday, the first SSB event I've done with the new boards > (prior CQ WPX CW for a couple of hours worked fine, using S&P). > > I spend long periods of time camped out on various frequencies/bands, > calling CQ MiQP and working stations. I noticed a number of callers > coming back to me off frequency by a couple of hundred hertz, and > started 'chasing' them with the RIT, which only seemed to make matters > worse. When they came back each time, it seemed they were on a > different frequency. > > Eventually, I had two different stations tell me (without prompting) > that my transmit frequency was shifting around, and that they were > chasing me around! > > One station thought maybe I had mistaken my XIT for my RIT (nope). Not > knowing what to make of it, and being in the middle of the QSO party, I > wasn't eager to mess around trying to debug it, so I just turned off the > RIT and managed without it. I still had folks occasionally calling me > noticeably off frequency for the rest of the evening. > > I still don't know if the RIT aggravated the situation or not, and I > spend some time this afternoon looking through my Elecraft mail list > archive for anyone else that may be experiencing anything similar, and > turned up empty-handed. > > There are two things also to know: > > 1) I was using the latest N1MM+, but was not using it to transmit, i.e. > I was using the DVR built-in to the K3 instead of function keys on > N1MM+. In CW contests, I do the opposite, preferring to use the CW > memories in N1MM+. > > 2) I have the RIT knob set to do fast tuning (on SSB that means 500 > Hz/click) when the RIT/XIT are disengaged. > > One other observation: At no time did I see the transmit frequency on > the K3 move. Only the displayed receive frequency moved when RIT was > engaged. > > I'm baffled as to whether this is real or not, but this occurred after I > installed the new KSYN3A boards (I have the sub-receiver) without a > hitch. Maybe the guys calling me had their RIT turned on, and thus were > calling me off frequency from where they spotted me. > > Ideas anyone? I do have the means to monitor my transmit output via a > portable HF transceiver, but haven't tried that yet. I'm also running > the latest non-Beta firmware in the K3. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A_transmit_frequency_jumping_around? > From: "Dave New, N8SBE" <[hidden email]> > Date: Sun, April 19, 2015 2:45 pm > To: [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: KSYN3A_transmit_frequency_jump
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I noticed that N1MM+ seemed to randomly turn the RIT on for me from time
to time. Maybe it also can turn on XIT? I didn't get a chance to research it, but I would suspect it before I would suspect the K3. On 19 Apr 2015 21:54, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > Sorry for the blank first message. With so many email lists I'm > signed up for, it's hard to keep track of the ones that either > bounce HTML-formatted messages, or just strip it off, like apparently > this one did. Here goes: > > I ran my K3 with the new KSYN3A boards on the MI QSO party for about > 10.5 hours yesterday, the first SSB event I've done with the new > boards (prior CQ WPX CW for a couple of hours worked fine, using > S&P). > > I spend long periods of time camped out on various > frequencies/bands, calling CQ MiQP and working stations. I noticed a > number of callers coming back to me off frequency by a couple of > hundred hertz, and started 'chasing' them with the RIT, which only > seemed to make matters worse. When they came back each time, it > seemed they were on a different frequency. > > Eventually, I had two different stations tell me (without prompting) > that my transmit frequency was shifting around, and that they were > chasing me around! > > One station thought maybe I had mistaken my XIT for my RIT (nope). > Not knowing what to make of it, and being in the middle of the QSO > party, I wasn't eager to mess around trying to debug it, so I just > turned off the RIT and managed without it. I still had folks > occasionally calling me noticeably off frequency for the rest of the > evening. > > I still don't know if the RIT aggravated the situation or not, and I > spend some time this afternoon looking through my Elecraft mail list > archive for anyone else that may be experiencing anything similar, > and turned up empty-handed. > > There are two things also to know: > > 1) I was using the latest N1MM+, but was not using it to transmit, > i.e. I was using the DVR built-in to the K3 instead of function keys > on N1MM+. In CW contests, I do the opposite, preferring to use the > CW memories in N1MM+. > > 2) I have the RIT knob set to do fast tuning (on SSB that means 500 > Hz/click) when the RIT/XIT are disengaged. > > One other observation: At no time did I see the transmit frequency > on the K3 move. Only the displayed receive frequency moved when RIT > was engaged. > > I'm baffled as to whether this is real or not, but this occurred > after I installed the new KSYN3A boards (I have the sub-receiver) > without a hitch. Maybe the guys calling me had their RIT turned on, > and thus were calling me off frequency from where they spotted me. > > Ideas anyone? I do have the means to monitor my transmit output via > a portable HF transceiver, but haven't tried that yet. I'm also > running the latest non-Beta firmware in the K3. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I was CW-only in MIQP, but I noticed that too from N1MM+ 2 or 3 times.
I have the new synth installed, but it seems to be working just fine. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 4/19/2015 1:27 PM, Vic Rosenthal wrote: > I noticed that N1MM+ seemed to randomly turn the RIT on for me from time > to time. Maybe it also can turn on XIT? I didn't get a chance to > research it, but I would suspect it before I would suspect the K3. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: KSYN3A_transmit_frequency_jump
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There is a feature in N1MM+ that will offset your tx frequency by some small
random amount when you click on a spot. The idea is to get some separation. This feature, can be turned on or off on the telnet window then click on the filters tab. The option is the third check box option. Pete, W1RM -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 4:45 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A_transmit_frequency_jumping_around? I was CW-only in MIQP, but I noticed that too from N1MM+ 2 or 3 times. I have the new synth installed, but it seems to be working just fine. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 4/19/2015 1:27 PM, Vic Rosenthal wrote: > I noticed that N1MM+ seemed to randomly turn the RIT on for me from time > to time. Maybe it also can turn on XIT? I didn't get a chance to > research it, but I would suspect it before I would suspect the K3. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: KSYN3A_transmit_frequency_jump
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Pete,
Mine was on, and I've never even SEEN that window (I always operate unassisted). I didn't click on any spots in N1MM, but possibly something else I did triggered it. Nice to work you recently! On 20 Apr 2015 14:52, Peter Chamalian W1RM wrote: > There is a feature in N1MM+ that will offset your tx frequency by some small > random amount when you click on a spot. The idea is to get some separation. > This feature, can be turned on or off on the telnet window then click on the > filters tab. The option is the third check box option. > > > Pete, W1RM > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fred > Jensen > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 4:45 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A_transmit_frequency_jumping_around? > > I was CW-only in MIQP, but I noticed that too from N1MM+ 2 or 3 times. > I have the new synth installed, but it seems to be working just fine. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 > - www.cqp.org > > On 4/19/2015 1:27 PM, Vic Rosenthal wrote: >> I noticed that N1MM+ seemed to randomly turn the RIT on for me from time >> to time. Maybe it also can turn on XIT? I didn't get a chance to >> research it, but I would suspect it before I would suspect the K3. -- 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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