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JonKG6VDW

Re: KX3/PX3 Linux Utilities for Raspberry

I would be interested in all of the utilities running on Raspberry Pi 3 as
well especially for the KX3.

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Roger Klein

Re: KX3/PX3 Linux Utilities for Raspberry

Add me as well for running on the Pi, this would be useful to have.

Roger N5RWK

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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: KX3/PX3 Linux Utilities for Raspberry

Regarding the RPi, I like experimenting with it
but as a shack computer the idea of a separate
computer unit plus monitor plus keyboard seems a
bit of a kluge.

Just now my shack computer is an 11" 2010 MacBook
Air with 250GB SSD. It runs both Windows 10 and OS
X 10.11.4, so I can use the many ham apps (such as
EZNEC) unique to Windows and not requiring too
much computing power. A real plus is that it can
sit in front of my K3 or KX3 and I can still see
the rig's front panel over the top of the
computer's monitor -- and the monitor is plenty
large enough for the digital modes, and the
keyboard is full size.

My most compact RPi set up now is an RP2 with a
small keyboard with trackpad and a 7" HDMI
monitor. Due to the separate boxes that takes up
more space than the 11" MacBook Air, while having
a smaller-than-normal keyboard and a screen which
is a challenge to use.

So I just don't get all the enthusiasm for using
an RPi (or BBB) as the shack computer to support
the Elecraft utilities, etc. No problem with
Linux (which I can run on the MBAir, and do run on
my RPi2), just with the physical arrangement.

73, Phil W7OX

On 4/8/16 10:10 AM, Roger Klein wrote:
> Add me as well for running on the Pi, this would be useful to have.
>
>
>
> Roger N5RWK

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Brendon Whateley

Re: KX3/PX3 Linux Utilities for Raspberry

Phil,

With all due respect, your use case is clearly different from those of us
who are so enthusiastic. I've not had a Windows PC since XP was a new
thing, and I have no interest in going back to Windows. Our house is all
MacBook Pro and various Linux machines, including a growing number of RPi.
So the fact that you are happy with running Windows on a Mac is unrelated
to the fact that I want to dedicate a RPi to the shack duties and have
another in my Go Box so that I can literally grab my KX3 and hit the road
without messing with computer stuff. That way the shack RPi can be
permanently attached to its monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. And the Go Box
can be configured for a small bluetooth keyboard/mouse device I have.

The RPi has the needed power for this use, and at $35 I can have several
for different locations as needed -- something I am not prepared to do with
MacBooks.

What this thread is showing is that there is a growing number of people who
feel that a RPi is a perfect solution for this use case, and if not that,
then some other Linux machine. We are hoping that Elecraft will open source
the utilities so that folks such as myself can help make this a reality.

Commenting on a thread to say "this doesn't apply to me, so I don't see why
anybody else would care" is a little self centered and leads to an
unfortunate tone which is so common in HAM communities -- it discourages
new hams such as myself from getting involved, or asking questions.

Regards,
- Brendon
KK6AYI

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Regarding the RPi, I like experimenting with it but as a shack computer
> the idea of a separate computer unit plus monitor plus keyboard seems a bit
> of a kluge.
>
> Just now my shack computer is an 11" 2010 MacBook Air with 250GB SSD. It
> runs both Windows 10 and OS X 10.11.4, so I can use the many ham apps (such
> as EZNEC) unique to Windows and not requiring too much computing power. A
> real plus is that it can sit in front of my K3 or KX3 and I can still see
> the rig's front panel over the top of the computer's monitor -- and the
> monitor is plenty large enough for the digital modes, and the keyboard is
> full size.
>
> My most compact RPi set up now is an RP2 with a small keyboard with
> trackpad and a 7" HDMI monitor. Due to the separate boxes that takes up
> more space than the 11" MacBook Air, while having a smaller-than-normal
> keyboard and a screen which is a challenge to use.
>
> So I just don't get all the enthusiasm for using an RPi (or BBB) as the
> shack computer to support the Elecraft utilities, etc. No problem with
> Linux (which I can run on the MBAir, and do run on my RPi2), just with the
> physical arrangement.
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
>
> On 4/8/16 10:10 AM, Roger Klein wrote:
>
>> Add me as well for running on the Pi, this would be useful to have.
>>
>>
>> Roger N5RWK
>>
>
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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: KX3/PX3 Linux Utilities for Raspberry

On 4/8/16 4:45 PM, Brendon Whateley wrote:

> Phil,
>
> With all due respect, your use case is clearly different from those of us
> who are so enthusiastic. I've not had a Windows PC since XP was a new
> thing, and I have no interest in going back to Windows. Our house is all
> MacBook Pro and various Linux machines, including a growing number of RPi.
> So the fact that you are happy with running Windows on a Mac is unrelated
> to the fact that I want to dedicate a RPi to the shack duties and have
> another in my Go Box so that I can literally grab my KX3 and hit the road
> without messing with computer stuff. That way the shack RPi can be
> permanently attached to its monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. And the Go Box
> can be configured for a small bluetooth keyboard/mouse device I have.
>
> The RPi has the needed power for this use, and at $35 I can have several
> for different locations as needed -- something I am not prepared to do with
> MacBooks.
>
> What this thread is showing is that there is a growing number of people who
> feel that a RPi is a perfect solution for this use case, and if not that,
> then some other Linux machine. We are hoping that Elecraft will open source
> the utilities so that folks such as myself can help make this a reality.

I suspect open sourcing the utilities would be a
mistake.
>
> Commenting on a thread to say "this doesn't apply to me, so I don't see why
> anybody else would care" is a little self centered and leads to an
> unfortunate tone which is so common in HAM communities -- it discourages
> new hams such as myself from getting involved, or asking questions.
>
> Regards,
> - Brendon
> KK6AYI

Eric closed this thread, but I must reply since
you put words in quotation marks which I never
wrote ("this doesn't apply to me, so I don't see
why anybody else would care") -- very disingenuous
and misleading of you, and amazing that you would
do so.

What I did say was "as a shack computer the idea
of a separate computer unit plus monitor plus
keyboard seems a bit of a kluge." and nothing you
said relates to that statement.

I also said:

"So I just don't get all the enthusiasm for using an RPi (or BBB) as the
shack computer to support the Elecraft utilities, etc. No problem with
Linux (which I can run on the MBAir, and do run on my RPi2), just with the
physical arrangement."

and part of your reply did address that.

But inventing quotations which I did not say: Truly Troubling.

Phil W7OX

>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Regarding the RPi, I like experimenting with it but as a shack computer
>> the idea of a separate computer unit plus monitor plus keyboard seems a bit
>> of a kluge.
>>
>> Just now my shack computer is an 11" 2010 MacBook Air with 250GB SSD. It
>> runs both Windows 10 and OS X 10.11.4, so I can use the many ham apps (such
>> as EZNEC) unique to Windows and not requiring too much computing power. A
>> real plus is that it can sit in front of my K3 or KX3 and I can still see
>> the rig's front panel over the top of the computer's monitor -- and the
>> monitor is plenty large enough for the digital modes, and the keyboard is
>> full size.
>>
>> My most compact RPi set up now is an RP2 with a small keyboard with
>> trackpad and a 7" HDMI monitor. Due to the separate boxes that takes up
>> more space than the 11" MacBook Air, while having a smaller-than-normal
>> keyboard and a screen which is a challenge to use.
>>
>> So I just don't get all the enthusiasm for using an RPi (or BBB) as the
>> shack computer to support the Elecraft utilities, etc. No problem with
>> Linux (which I can run on the MBAir, and do run on my RPi2), just with the
>> physical arrangement.
>>
>> 73, Phil W7OX
>>
>>
>> On 4/8/16 10:10 AM, Roger Klein wrote:
>>
>>> Add me as well for running on the Pi, this would be useful to have.
>>>
>>>
>>> Roger N5RWK

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Re: KX3/PX3 Linux Utilities for Raspberry

Administrator

Guys, this thread was closed several days ago. Please see my list posting on this topic

73,

Eric
Moderator
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> On Apr 8, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 4/8/16 4:45 PM, Brendon Whateley wrote:
>> Phil,
>>
>> With all due respect, your use case is clearly different from those of us
>> who are so enthusiastic. I've not had a Windows PC since XP was a new
>> thing, and I have no interest in going back to Windows. Our house is all
>> MacBook Pro and various Linux machines, including a growing number of RPi.
>> So the fact that you are happy with running Windows on a Mac is unrelated
>> to the fact that I want to dedicate a RPi to the shack duties and have
>> another in my Go Box so that I can literally grab my KX3 and hit the road
>> without messing with computer stuff. That way the shack RPi can be
>> permanently attached to its monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. And the Go Box
>> can be configured for a small bluetooth keyboard/mouse device I have.
>>
>> The RPi has the needed power for this use, and at $35 I can have several
>> for different locations as needed -- something I am not prepared to do with
>> MacBooks.
>>
>> What this thread is showing is that there is a growing number of people who
>> feel that a RPi is a perfect solution for this use case, and if not that,
>> then some other Linux machine. We are hoping that Elecraft will open source
>> the utilities so that folks such as myself can help make this a reality.
> I suspect open sourcing the utilities would be a mistake.
>>
>> Commenting on a thread to say "this doesn't apply to me, so I don't see why
>> anybody else would care" is a little self centered and leads to an
>> unfortunate tone which is so common in HAM communities -- it discourages
>> new hams such as myself from getting involved, or asking questions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> - Brendon
>> KK6AYI
>
> Eric closed this thread, but I must reply since you put words in quotation marks which I never wrote ("this doesn't apply to me, so I don't see why anybody else would care") -- very disingenuous and misleading of you, and amazing that you would do so.
>
> What I did say was "as a shack computer the idea of a separate computer unit plus monitor plus keyboard seems a bit of a kluge." and nothing you said relates to that statement.
>
> I also said:
>
> "So I just don't get all the enthusiasm for using an RPi (or BBB) as the
> shack computer to support the Elecraft utilities, etc. No problem with
> Linux (which I can run on the MBAir, and do run on my RPi2), just with the
> physical arrangement."
>
> and part of your reply did address that.
>
> But inventing quotations which I did not say: Truly Troubling.
>
> Phil W7OX
>
>
>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Regarding the RPi, I like experimenting with it but as a shack computer
>>> the idea of a separate computer unit plus monitor plus keyboard seems a bit
>>> of a kluge.
>>>
>>> Just now my shack computer is an 11" 2010 MacBook Air with 250GB SSD. It
>>> runs both Windows 10 and OS X 10.11.4, so I can use the many ham apps (such
>>> as EZNEC) unique to Windows and not requiring too much computing power. A
>>> real plus is that it can sit in front of my K3 or KX3 and I can still see
>>> the rig's front panel over the top of the computer's monitor -- and the
>>> monitor is plenty large enough for the digital modes, and the keyboard is
>>> full size.
>>>
>>> My most compact RPi set up now is an RP2 with a small keyboard with
>>> trackpad and a 7" HDMI monitor. Due to the separate boxes that takes up
>>> more space than the 11" MacBook Air, while having a smaller-than-normal
>>> keyboard and a screen which is a challenge to use.
>>>
>>> So I just don't get all the enthusiasm for using an RPi (or BBB) as the
>>> shack computer to support the Elecraft utilities, etc. No problem with
>>> Linux (which I can run on the MBAir, and do run on my RPi2), just with the
>>> physical arrangement.
>>>
>>> 73, Phil W7OX
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4/8/16 10:10 AM, Roger Klein wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Add me as well for running on the Pi, this would be useful to have.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Roger N5RWK
>
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