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Re: KX3: automated sideband nulling routine using XG3..

Dave B
FAO: Elecraft...

I don't supose for one moment, that there could be a version of that
"Other Sideband Nulling" software, that could be persuaded to work with
more "normal" signal generators, from the likes of HP/Agilent, R&S,
Marconi etc, via GPIB or Serial (using VISA call's for example?)

Else.   Are all the commands that the software uses with the XG3
documented, so an interface (with virtual COM port) could be written to
do that?   (Emulate the XG3, while passing on the frequency/level data to
the alternative sig gen.)

Regards.

Dave G0WBX
(with access to some of the above, and a Delphi compiler...)


On 10 Jul 2013 at 22:23, [hidden email] wrote:

>
> Message: 6
> From: Arnie Grubbs <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: automated sideband nulling routine using XG3..
>
> Hi All,
>
> I got a copy of the software for running the ?OSB nulling from
> elecraft the other day, and
>
> it seems to work well. ?It does not have a very informative U.I. ?All
> you do is set the com ports for the generator and the radio, and then
> turn it loose. ? About 20 or so min. later it proclaims that it is
> finished. ? I have done 2 radios so far, and might get a 3rd one done
> this weekend at our QRP and home brewers meeting if one of the guys
> brings his rig.
>
> The hardest part was getting my "OLD" elecraft serial cable driver to
> play nice. ? I got the thing with my K3 S/N 185, ?and I think it is a
> 'prolific' ?USB chip.. ?I think the new cables are FTDI or anyhow
> something with better driver support....
>
> I had to e-mail Elecraft for the software, and they e-mailed the
> software with a note on how to run it. ?I don't think that they are
> ready to release it, although I don't see that it would be an issue to
> do so in is present version of the software. ? ?Maybe if ?enough
> people ask for it, they might put it on the web site for download. ?
> Who knows, maybe a few more people will want to get an XG3!
>
> 73 - Arnie KA0NCR
>


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Re: KX3: automated sideband nulling routine using XG3..

Fred Smith-2
I being one of them to be able to use my XG3 better in the shack.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3: automated sideband nulling routine using XG3..

FAO: Elecraft...

I don't supose for one moment, that there could be a version of that "Other
Sideband Nulling" software, that could be persuaded to work with more
"normal" signal generators, from the likes of HP/Agilent, R&S, Marconi etc,
via GPIB or Serial (using VISA call's for example?)

Else.   Are all the commands that the software uses with the XG3
documented, so an interface (with virtual COM port) could be written to
do that?   (Emulate the XG3, while passing on the frequency/level data to
the alternative sig gen.)

Regards.

Dave G0WBX
(with access to some of the above, and a Delphi compiler...)


On 10 Jul 2013 at 22:23, [hidden email] wrote:

>
> Message: 6
> From: Arnie Grubbs <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: automated sideband nulling routine using XG3..
>
> Hi All,
>
> I got a copy of the software for running the ?OSB nulling from
> elecraft the other day, and
>
> it seems to work well. ?It does not have a very informative U.I. ?All
> you do is set the com ports for the generator and the radio, and then
> turn it loose. ? About 20 or so min. later it proclaims that it is
> finished. ? I have done 2 radios so far, and might get a 3rd one done
> this weekend at our QRP and home brewers meeting if one of the guys
> brings his rig.
>
> The hardest part was getting my "OLD" elecraft serial cable driver to
> play nice. ? I got the thing with my K3 S/N 185, ?and I think it is a
> 'prolific' ?USB chip.. ?I think the new cables are FTDI or anyhow
> something with better driver support....
>
> I had to e-mail Elecraft for the software, and they e-mailed the
> software with a note on how to run it. ?I don't think that they are
> ready to release it, although I don't see that it would be an issue to
> do so in is present version of the software. ? ?Maybe if ?enough
> people ask for it, they might put it on the web site for download. ?
> Who knows, maybe a few more people will want to get an XG3!
>
> 73 - Arnie KA0NCR
>


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Re: KX3: automated sideband nulling routine using XG3..

Bob Henderson-2
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 Dave

The automated routine is embedded in the KX3. No additional software is
needed.  I used an HP8640B sig gen as I don't own an XG3.

Download the appropriate App Note from the URL below. All will become clear.

http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/kx3_app_notes.htm

I found use of the routine followed by minor manual tweaks produced the
best results.

73

Bob, 5B4AGN

On Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:20 AM Dave B wrote:

FAO: Elecraft...

I don't supose for one moment, that there could be a version of that "Other
Sideband Nulling" software, that could be persuaded to work with more
"normal" signal generators, from the likes of HP/Agilent, R&S, Marconi etc,
via GPIB or Serial (using VISA call's for example?)

Else.   Are all the commands that the software uses with the XG3
documented, so an interface (with virtual COM port) could be written to
do that?   (Emulate the XG3, while passing on the frequency/level data to
the alternative sig gen.)

Regards.

Dave G0WBX
(with access to some of the above, and a Delphi compiler...)
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Re: KX3: automated sideband nulling routine using XG3..

WB0OEW
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G0WBX asked:

> Are all the commands that the software uses with the XG3 documented?

The XG3 commands are in the owners manual available at
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner's%20Manual%20Rev%20D.pdf

73, Elwood, WB0OEW


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Re: KX3: automated sideband nulling routine using XG3..

wayne burdick
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Dave,

The XG3 control command set is fully documented, so feel free to write whatever remote-control applications you'd like. This is why we provided the commands. The XG3 utility program uses many of them to create a general-purpose RF generator, with memories, scanning, etc.

73,
Wayne
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On Jul 11, 2013, at 1:19 AM, "Dave B" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> FAO: Elecraft...
>
> I don't supose for one moment, that there could be a version of that
> "Other Sideband Nulling" software, that could be persuaded to work with
> more "normal" signal generators, from the likes of HP/Agilent, R&S,
> Marconi etc, via GPIB or Serial (using VISA call's for example?)
>
> Else.   Are all the commands that the software uses with the XG3
> documented, so an interface (with virtual COM port) could be written to
> do that?   (Emulate the XG3, while passing on the frequency/level data to
> the alternative sig gen.)
>
> Regards.
>
> Dave G0WBX
> (with access to some of the above, and a Delphi compiler...)

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Re: KX3: automated sideband nulling routine using XG3..

WB4SON
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"I got a copy of the software for running the  OSB nulling from elecraft
the other day..."

I've been looking on the website and FTP and haven't found any utility for
doing "automatic" opposite Sideband Suppression with a XG3.   I read the
app note on OSB but there really isn't any mention of the XG3 in
particular, and the process is sort of a hybrid of automatic (KX3 side) and
manual (XG3 side).

So does this "automatic" XG3/KX3 application exist, and can someone point
me to its location?

Thanks!

73, Bob, WB4SON
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