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Jim Ewing

Re: Leaving the Reflector (OT but always relevant I think)

Agreed. In my law firm, it was interesting to observe which people chose
to broadcast negative departure emails. There are decent materials out
there about how to depart a group, including how to send an email if you
must. See, e.g.,
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201705/seven-guidelines-making-great-goodbye
Includes this quote among others: "Audiences expect, and therefore
appreciate, your efforts to help them feel good about the person who’s
leaving (or who has left) and about themselves."

It's hard for me to imagine if the writer down below did not get some good
things from this reflector over his seven year tenure, even if from time to
time one must separate the wheat from some chaff. Which effort I usually
find trivial and sometimes interesting and even productive in unintended
ways (recent example being the thread on FT-8 which has been helpful to me
in understanding not only the technology but also how people are reacting
to it).

FWIW, I think Eric and Elecraft have just the right touch running this
reflector, and I appreciate what they do and all the excellent information
that comes from it.

Jim, N4TMM
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Why do people leaving a list always have to announce it? To make sure
everyone knows how good they are and how bad everyone else is that's left
so that we can all feel bad? Sorry I don't, had nothing to do with why you
left, your choice.
Why not just unsubscribe without announcing it?

Tom, k2bew

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 9:41 AM Robert Brock <[hidden email]> wrote:

> After almost seven years of reading the Reflector on a daily basis the
time

> has come for me to stop. During this period of time changes that the
> Reflector has undergone have been significant as to how and when the
> Reflector is to be used.
>
> Long ago Eric set up a set of guidelines to keep the Reflector from
> becoming
> what other's have evolved into by some who don't appreciate what the
> Reflector was designed to do. They don't know how to follow simple
> guidelines or to focus on posted questions without expanding the matter
> into
> OT subjects. One stellar example is how a simple question by someone who
> really needs assistance quickly morphs out of control and rambles through
> 20
> or more responses until Eric is required to intervene. The past week
> certainly has underscored how out of control the Reflector has become.
>
> In the future, should I require assistance, I will simply contact Elecraft
> directly. My appreciation to Eric and others who have tried to make this
> site something genuinely useful to Elecraft equipment users.
>
> No response is needed nor desired. Let this just stand as posted without
> comment. Thank you.
>

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ke9uw

Re: Leaving the Reflector (OT but always relevant I think)

Good post. I’ve learned a lot from this reflector, and even much of the OT that I didn’t know I was interested in until I read it...

Chuck
KE9UW

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> On Jul 7, 2018, at 8:05 PM, Jim Ewing <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Agreed. In my law firm, it was interesting to observe which people chose
> to broadcast negative departure emails. There are decent materials out
> there about how to depart a group, including how to send an email if you
> must. See, e.g.,
> https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201705/seven-guidelines-making-great-goodbye
> Includes this quote among others: "Audiences expect, and therefore
> appreciate, your efforts to help them feel good about the person who’s
> leaving (or who has left) and about themselves."
>
> It's hard for me to imagine if the writer down below did not get some good
> things from this reflector over his seven year tenure, even if from time to
> time one must separate the wheat from some chaff. Which effort I usually
> find trivial and sometimes interesting and even productive in unintended
> ways (recent example being the thread on FT-8 which has been helpful to me
> in understanding not only the technology but also how people are reacting
> to it).
>
> FWIW, I think Eric and Elecraft have just the right touch running this
> reflector, and I appreciate what they do and all the excellent information
> that comes from it.
>
> Jim, N4TMM
> -------
> Why do people leaving a list always have to announce it? To make sure
> everyone knows how good they are and how bad everyone else is that's left
> so that we can all feel bad? Sorry I don't, had nothing to do with why you
> left, your choice.
> Why not just unsubscribe without announcing it?
>
> Tom, k2bew
>
>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 9:41 AM Robert Brock <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> After almost seven years of reading the Reflector on a daily basis the
> time
>> has come for me to stop. During this period of time changes that the
>> Reflector has undergone have been significant as to how and when the
>> Reflector is to be used.
>>
>> Long ago Eric set up a set of guidelines to keep the Reflector from
>> becoming
>> what other's have evolved into by some who don't appreciate what the
>> Reflector was designed to do. They don't know how to follow simple
>> guidelines or to focus on posted questions without expanding the matter
>> into
>> OT subjects. One stellar example is how a simple question by someone who
>> really needs assistance quickly morphs out of control and rambles through
>> 20
>> or more responses until Eric is required to intervene. The past week
>> certainly has underscored how out of control the Reflector has become.
>>
>> In the future, should I require assistance, I will simply contact Elecraft
>> directly. My appreciation to Eric and others who have tried to make this
>> site something genuinely useful to Elecraft equipment users.
>>
>> No response is needed nor desired. Let this just stand as posted without
>> comment. Thank you.
>>
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Chuck, KE9UW