Re: Lightweight and inexpensive remote control of my K3s

classic Classic list List threaded Threaded
6 messages Options
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Lightweight and inexpensive remote control of my K3s

tomb18
Try winkey. They have a remote solution. 73 Tom 


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Peter Dougherty <[hidden email]> Date: 2018-07-29  6:35 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Lightweight and inexpensive remote control of my K3s
Once again this year I'm planning to visit friends over the Thanksgiving
weekend. Unlike in the past, I won't be able to set up for CQWW-CW from where
I'm staying. Instead, I'd like to remote back in to my home station.

Last year I used RemoteHams software and N1MM+, and it worked OK as
proof-of-concept, but I wasn't knocked out with the whole workflow. The latency
wasn't a big problem, but the lack of paddles was. The macros in N1MM+ were
fine, but too often I wanted to send by hand, which I couldn't easily do with
the RCFOrb client software. The server side software worked OK, but it's very
finicky.

I'd like a hardware solution, but not something as expensive or unwieldy as a
K3/0. I'm thinking along the lines of something I can throw in a briefcase,
connect to my laptop, and plug in headphones and paddles (or a mic, heavens
forbid) and not have to rely on a dodgy piece of Windows software. Any thoughts?
I remember that the Remotehams guys had a hardware box but I've never known
anybody who used it, and I'm not sure if RemoteRig's boxes are what I'm after
either (don't they only work in contention with a K3/something?).

---------------------------------------------
73 and Good DX
Peter, W2IRT

President, North Jersey DX Association

DXCC Card Checker
Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau

 

______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Lightweight and inexpensive remote control of my K3s

k6dgw
There are two flavors of K3/0's.  The K3/0 is the size of a K3 [but much
lighter since it has no radio parts], the K3/0 mini is basically the
same front panel without the radio parts or case for them.  The mini has
a single D-sub connector on the back that handles all the RRC<-->K3
connections.  You can use an external keyer, the keyer in the mini, or
the keyer facility in the RRC.  Mic can go into the front or rear jacks.
Makes a really nice control package for travel.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/29/2018 3:35 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:

> Once again this year I'm planning to visit friends over the Thanksgiving
> weekend. Unlike in the past, I won't be able to set up for CQWW-CW from where
> I'm staying. Instead, I'd like to remote back in to my home station.
>
> Last year I used RemoteHams software and N1MM+, and it worked OK as
> proof-of-concept, but I wasn't knocked out with the whole workflow. The latency
> wasn't a big problem, but the lack of paddles was. The macros in N1MM+ were
> fine, but too often I wanted to send by hand, which I couldn't easily do with
> the RCFOrb client software. The server side software worked OK, but it's very
> finicky.
>
> I'd like a hardware solution, but not something as expensive or unwieldy as a
> K3/0. I'm thinking along the lines of something I can throw in a briefcase,
> connect to my laptop, and plug in headphones and paddles (or a mic, heavens
> forbid) and not have to rely on a dodgy piece of Windows software. Any thoughts?
> I remember that the Remotehams guys had a hardware box but I've never known
> anybody who used it, and I'm not sure if RemoteRig's boxes are what I'm after
> either (don't they only work in contention with a K3/something?).
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> 73 and Good DX
> Peter, W2IRT
>
> President, North Jersey DX Association
>
> DXCC Card Checker
> Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau
>
>  
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:[hidden email]
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to [hidden email]
>
>
> --
> This message has been scanned by E.F.A. Project and is believed to be clean.
>
>
>

______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Lightweight and inexpensive remote control of my K3s

Peter W2IRT
Yep, I've seen the mini, but even that is large, plus quite expensive if memory serves. I'm looking for something that will be used for one weekend a year and maybe when I'm on vacation and something interesting happens to pop up or there's a 6m F2 opening, etc. I pack and travel extremely light (21" carry-on and a small laptop briefcase only quite often, and small/light being necessary). I like the idea of the remoterig boxes but do they also require the K3/0 or mini in addition? That's a show-stopper.

 - pjd


-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 8:10 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightweight and inexpensive remote control of my K3s

There are two flavors of K3/0's.  The K3/0 is the size of a K3 [but much
lighter since it has no radio parts], the K3/0 mini is basically the
same front panel without the radio parts or case for them.  The mini has
a single D-sub connector on the back that handles all the RRC<-->K3
connections.  You can use an external keyer, the keyer in the mini, or
the keyer facility in the RRC.  Mic can go into the front or rear jacks.
Makes a really nice control package for travel.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/29/2018 3:35 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:

> Once again this year I'm planning to visit friends over the Thanksgiving
> weekend. Unlike in the past, I won't be able to set up for CQWW-CW from where
> I'm staying. Instead, I'd like to remote back in to my home station.
>
> Last year I used RemoteHams software and N1MM+, and it worked OK as
> proof-of-concept, but I wasn't knocked out with the whole workflow. The latency
> wasn't a big problem, but the lack of paddles was. The macros in N1MM+ were
> fine, but too often I wanted to send by hand, which I couldn't easily do with
> the RCFOrb client software. The server side software worked OK, but it's very
> finicky.
>
> I'd like a hardware solution, but not something as expensive or unwieldy as a
> K3/0. I'm thinking along the lines of something I can throw in a briefcase,
> connect to my laptop, and plug in headphones and paddles (or a mic, heavens
> forbid) and not have to rely on a dodgy piece of Windows software. Any thoughts?
> I remember that the Remotehams guys had a hardware box but I've never known
> anybody who used it, and I'm not sure if RemoteRig's boxes are what I'm after
> either (don't they only work in contention with a K3/something?).
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> 73 and Good DX
> Peter, W2IRT
>
> President, North Jersey DX Association
>
> DXCC Card Checker
> Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau
>
>  
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:[hidden email]
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to [hidden email]
>
>
> --
> This message has been scanned by E.F.A. Project and is believed to be clean.
>
>
>

______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]

______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]
Lovin' my K3S (S/N 10023)
73, Peter W2IRT
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Lightweight and inexpensive remote control of my K3s

Rick Tavan-2
In reply to this post by tomb18
http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=28 describes a software client that
requires only a small dongle for some interconnects. It also serves as a
passkey for the software. You have an RRC at the radio end and a PC plus
this dongle at your control site. It looked perfect for me to complement my
fixed-station control site when traveling. I never got it working very
well, though. That may have been operator error but I lost interest before
getting it going satisfactorily. They have since upgraded the device. It
may work fine but I'm not a good reference. Your inquiry reminds me to try
again!  ;-)

GL & 73,

/Rick N6XI

--

Rick Tavan
Truckee, CA

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dougherty <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Once again this year I'm planning to visit friends over the Thanksgiving
> weekend. Unlike in the past, I won't be able to set up for CQWW-CW from
> where
> I'm staying. Instead, I'd like to remote back in to my home station.
>
> Last year I used RemoteHams software and N1MM+, and it worked OK as
> proof-of-concept, but I wasn't knocked out with the whole workflow. The
> latency
> wasn't a big problem, but the lack of paddles was. The macros in N1MM+ were
> fine, but too often I wanted to send by hand, which I couldn't easily do
> with
> the RCFOrb client software. The server side software worked OK, but it's
> very
> finicky.
>
> I'd like a hardware solution, but not something as expensive or unwieldy
> as a
> K3/0. I'm thinking along the lines of something I can throw in a briefcase,
> connect to my laptop, and plug in headphones and paddles (or a mic, heavens
> forbid) and not have to rely on a dodgy piece of Windows software. Any
> thoughts?
> I remember that the Remotehams guys had a hardware box but I've never known
> anybody who used it, and I'm not sure if RemoteRig's boxes are what I'm
> after
> either (don't they only work in contention with a K3/something?).
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> 73 and Good DX
> Peter, W2IRT
>
> President, North Jersey DX Association
>
> DXCC Card Checker
> Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:[hidden email]
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to [hidden email]
>
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Lightweight and inexpensive remote control of my K3s

Gordon LaPoint
all software remote control: http://www.remotehams.com/
Works very well and is free
Gordon - N1MGO

On 07/30/2018 10:42 AM, Rick Tavan wrote:

> http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=28 describes a software client that
> requires only a small dongle for some interconnects. It also serves as a
> passkey for the software. You have an RRC at the radio end and a PC plus
> this dongle at your control site. It looked perfect for me to complement my
> fixed-station control site when traveling. I never got it working very
> well, though. That may have been operator error but I lost interest before
> getting it going satisfactorily. They have since upgraded the device. It
> may work fine but I'm not a good reference. Your inquiry reminds me to try
> again!  ;-)
>
> GL & 73,
>
> /Rick N6XI
>
> --
>
> Rick Tavan
> Truckee, CA
>
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dougherty <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Once again this year I'm planning to visit friends over the Thanksgiving
>> weekend. Unlike in the past, I won't be able to set up for CQWW-CW from
>> where
>> I'm staying. Instead, I'd like to remote back in to my home station.
>>
>> Last year I used RemoteHams software and N1MM+, and it worked OK as
>> proof-of-concept, but I wasn't knocked out with the whole workflow. The
>> latency
>> wasn't a big problem, but the lack of paddles was. The macros in N1MM+ were
>> fine, but too often I wanted to send by hand, which I couldn't easily do
>> with
>> the RCFOrb client software. The server side software worked OK, but it's
>> very
>> finicky.
>>
>> I'd like a hardware solution, but not something as expensive or unwieldy
>> as a
>> K3/0. I'm thinking along the lines of something I can throw in a briefcase,
>> connect to my laptop, and plug in headphones and paddles (or a mic, heavens
>> forbid) and not have to rely on a dodgy piece of Windows software. Any
>> thoughts?
>> I remember that the Remotehams guys had a hardware box but I've never known
>> anybody who used it, and I'm not sure if RemoteRig's boxes are what I'm
>> after
>> either (don't they only work in contention with a K3/something?).
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> 73 and Good DX
>> Peter, W2IRT
>>
>> President, North Jersey DX Association
>>
>> DXCC Card Checker
>> Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:[hidden email]
>>
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> Message delivered to [hidden email]
>>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:[hidden email]
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to [hidden email]


--
Gordon - N1MGO

______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Lightweight and inexpensive remote control of my K3s

Jim Rhodes-2
In reply to this post by Rick Tavan-2
I have one of the original ones also, but like Rick I never really used it
although it still travels with me. I haqve moved and need to get a usable
apartment antenna installed. I actually ordered mine before a trip to
Sweden and had it shipped to a friend's house there. It is basically a usb
soundcard with a PTT switch. As such it seems to be aimed at phone
operation and I am more of a digital operator.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:43 AM Rick Tavan <[hidden email]> wrote:

> http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=28 describes a software client that
> requires only a small dongle for some interconnects. It also serves as a
> passkey for the software. You have an RRC at the radio end and a PC plus
> this dongle at your control site. It looked perfect for me to complement my
> fixed-station control site when traveling. I never got it working very
> well, though. That may have been operator error but I lost interest before
> getting it going satisfactorily. They have since upgraded the device. It
> may work fine but I'm not a good reference. Your inquiry reminds me to try
> again!  ;-)
>
> GL & 73,
>
> /Rick N6XI
>
> --
>
> Rick Tavan
> Truckee, CA
>
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dougherty <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Once again this year I'm planning to visit friends over the Thanksgiving
> > weekend. Unlike in the past, I won't be able to set up for CQWW-CW from
> > where
> > I'm staying. Instead, I'd like to remote back in to my home station.
> >
> > Last year I used RemoteHams software and N1MM+, and it worked OK as
> > proof-of-concept, but I wasn't knocked out with the whole workflow. The
> > latency
> > wasn't a big problem, but the lack of paddles was. The macros in N1MM+
> were
> > fine, but too often I wanted to send by hand, which I couldn't easily do
> > with
> > the RCFOrb client software. The server side software worked OK, but it's
> > very
> > finicky.
> >
> > I'd like a hardware solution, but not something as expensive or unwieldy
> > as a
> > K3/0. I'm thinking along the lines of something I can throw in a
> briefcase,
> > connect to my laptop, and plug in headphones and paddles (or a mic,
> heavens
> > forbid) and not have to rely on a dodgy piece of Windows software. Any
> > thoughts?
> > I remember that the Remotehams guys had a hardware box but I've never
> known
> > anybody who used it, and I'm not sure if RemoteRig's boxes are what I'm
> > after
> > either (don't they only work in contention with a K3/something?).
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > 73 and Good DX
> > Peter, W2IRT
> >
> > President, North Jersey DX Association
> >
> > DXCC Card Checker
> > Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > Elecraft mailing list
> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> > Post: mailto:[hidden email]
> >
> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> > Message delivered to [hidden email]
> >
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:[hidden email]
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to [hidden email]
>


--
Jim K0XU
[hidden email]
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]