Re: New 2KW amp from the HB1A folks (YouKits)(Petr Ourednik)

[John Harper AE5X]

Petr, it seems you're absolutely right. I received email responses from
both YouKits and OM-Power. According to OM-Power, it is a pirated product.

If true, how do they get away with doing business, even on eBay.........

John Harper
http://www.ae5x.com/blog

>...it looks like a direct copy of the OMPOWER
>designs...
>
>This is the exact reason why I will never buy it even if
>the price will be just 10% of the original one !
>I am not going to support "kina rice box" copies production !!!
>
>Good luck,
>
>73 - Petr, OK1RP

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[Guy, K2AV]

How?

Try going to China as an individual company and pursuing a cease and
desist suit.  Or collect infringement damages.  If a government is not
watching your six, it won't happen.  One reason to manufacture in
China is to have control of the clones that are going to be made one
way or another.

You might be able to get it knocked off of eBay, but you'd have to
complain.  Not anybody setting around doing that for you.

73, Guy.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:33 AM, John Harper <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Petr, it seems you're absolutely right. I received email responses from
> both YouKits and OM-Power. According to OM-Power, it is a pirated product.
>
> If true, how do they get away with doing business, even on eBay.........
>
> John Harper
> http://www.ae5x.com/blog
>
>
>
>>...it looks like a direct copy of the OMPOWER
>>designs...
>>
>>This is the exact reason why I will never buy it even if
>>the price will be just 10% of the original one !
>>I am not going to support "kina rice box" copies production !!!
>>
>>Good luck,
>>
>>73 - Petr, OK1RP
>
>
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[W8JI]

Anyone interested in electonics manufacturing should get a copy of

"Curtis, Philip J., The Fall of the U.S. Consumer Electronics Industry: An
American Trade Tragedy".

It has been known for a long time in the manufacturing industry that even if
a manufacturer pays tooling and setup charges to have something manufactured
in Asia, there is a very good chance the same product or component will be
offered for sale direct through other channels. I have seen tooling paid for
by US companies be used to make products that directly compete with the
products that were tooled! Nothing can be done.

The USA never has enforced any protection for manufacturers here, including
dumping and patent infringement. That's really why we lost the consumer
electronics industry in the 80's. Our government, at least since the 70's
and especially 80's, has never considered manufacturing more important than
short term money. Zenith and others won lawsuits for dumping, but our own
government fought tooth and nail to prevent and delay enforcement.

If we want to see what manufacturing we have left survive, we would have to
change the attidudes of our consumers and our own government. Otherwise we
just accept the fact that products can freely get ripped off.

I expect to see more and more of this in the future.

73 Tom

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[Eric Manning]

Tom W8JI said:

"If we want to see what manufacturing we have left survive"

I think you'd d**n well better want to see US manufacturing survive!

An economy based on the financial "products" [aka snake oil] produced by
the kids in red suspenders on Wall Street is a house of cards, a recipe
for disaster.
Nor can it generate enough worthwhile  employment for the population.

Future generations  will look back on the outsourcing of US
manufacturing jobs, the dismantling of a very large chunk of your
economy for short-term gain,
and shake their heads in amazement that the perpetrators were allowed to
get away with it.

And no, it is not off topic for this reflector - Elecraft provides  
proof by example that electronics manufacturing can be done profitably and
well in the US.

eric
VA7DZ

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[Gary Gregory]

Eric,

Yep, future generations will most likely blame us for not trying harder.

Although I am obviously not in the US now, I have spent some 15 years living
and working in the US (had my own business for 7 years) and I am very
impressed with Elecraft products.

The amazing thing about Elecraft is not so much their technology, which is
top shelf, but their commitment to their customer base and their total
support of all their products, old and new. I have been scratching my head
for some time trying to think of a company in Australia, in any area of
manufacturing that enjoys the level of customer appreciation that Elecraft
receives from it's customers and I am afraid I have come up short, yet
again.

When I first read about Elecraft I was stunned to find out that not only
were they a US company, but all design and manufacturing is actually done IN
the US. We all know about components etc, but to manufacture their products
in the US really surprised me.

No more rice boxes for me...Grin

73's

Gary

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:49 PM, eric manning <[hidden email]>wrote:

> Tom W8JI said:
>
> "If we want to see what manufacturing we have left survive"
>
> I think you'd d**n well better want to see US manufacturing survive!
>
> An economy based on the financial "products" [aka snake oil] produced by
> the kids in red suspenders on Wall Street is a house of cards, a recipe
> for disaster.
> Nor can it generate enough worthwhile  employment for the population.
>
> Future generations  will look back on the outsourcing of US
> manufacturing jobs, the dismantling of a very large chunk of your
> economy for short-term gain,
> and shake their heads in amazement that the perpetrators were allowed to
> get away with it.
>
> And no, it is not off topic for this reflector - Elecraft provides
> proof by example that electronics manufacturing can be done profitably and
> well in the US.
>
> eric
> VA7DZ
>
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