Re: Now accepting orders for the Elecraft KX3 Transceiver
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FWIW, the prices and accessories to be offered for the KX3 are at
http://www.elecraft.com/Misc/kx3now.htm . Now isn't that much more sensible than playing the kid's game of telling someone to "google" it? One wonders, however, how many pointlessly stupid postings will show up on this list during the next nine months by everyone who has just ordered a KX3 (it's not KX-3). Judging from the past 12 hours, it doesn't look too good for noise levels here! It's time to inhibit message delivery from this list. Mike / KK5F ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: Now accepting orders for the Elecraft KX3 Transceiver
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>One wonders, however, how many pointlessly stupid postings will
>show up on this list during the next nine months by everyone >who has just ordered a KX3 (it's not KX-3). -------- Here's 1! This is the first new radio (other than a portable receiver) I have bought new - ever (in >50 years of wanting to). That is kind of a big deal for me. I apologize if saying this is pointlessly stupid, but I am excited. Up to now my paycheck never seemed to keep up with the pricing of radios. I almost bought a Drake in the '70s and then my wife got pregnant with the first of our 6 kids (so instead I bought a roto-tiller and a garden plot from the Illinois Central Railroad). I made other choices which have been better than buying radios (e.g. being ordained and downgrading about $25K in salary, and having no hope for retirement). I imagine that a whole lot of other people have been, and are, in similar circumstances (of a very long drought - and to us this KX3 is like warm summer rain). Please forgive us all in advance - for when we get on the air we might still be excited. It is not going to be painless to pay for the ~$1400 I committed to last night (and no doubt some future add-ons), but considering inflation and the advanced technology going into this, I feel like this is a bargain. I am sure the introduction of this radio is going to increase the demand for a lot of peripheral equipment from us who have been out of the market (forever it seems). Screwdrivers, other mobile accessories computers/software, mounts, etc..., that is, if we don't get disheartened by the more experienced. Hopefully the KX3 will act to change the face of ham radio as well (without becoming CB/2m-like). Rev Fr Mark Gilstrap K5MSG www.hfnet.org p.s. I first heard of Elecraft at a Broken Arrow (OK) Amateur Radio Club presentation. A fellow from Arkansas (part of the Four States QRP Group www.4sqrp.com ) retired from work about the same time he lost interest in ham radio, after 50 years of operating... then he discovered QRP. For his presentation he brought in a K2 and some Altoid boxes containing various goodies, set up, got on the air and won me over reigniting my life-long interest - all in about 15 minutes - this was in the early '00s. His excitement was infectious. I now nearly ten years later I'm finally entering into ownership. I hope my excitement is not offensive. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Probably almost as many as when the K3 was released.
Oh yeah, I ordered mine last night. 73, Tony W7GO On 12/28/2011 8:26 AM, Mark / Tatiana Gilstrap wrote: >> One wonders, however, how many pointlessly stupid postings will >> show up on this list during the next nine months by everyone >> who has just ordered a KX3 (it's not KX-3). > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: Now accepting orders for the Elecraft KX3 Transceiver
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> Here's 1!
No, it's already about number 15, in just a few hours! > This is the first new radio (other than a portable receiver) I have bought > new - ever (in >50 years of wanting to). Great! But please...exactly **what value** is it to the list if each of the several thousand purchasers of the KX3 post "I ordered one" or "I ordered 13" or "I didn't get an e-mail after I ordered one" every time an order is placed for the **next several months**?? Just what??? It's of no value to me, and I doubt I'm alone with that assessment. Not even the K3 caused such a rash of such pointless, inane "I ordered one" postings so quickly. I agree that the KX3 is potentially one of the most exciting products that will soon present itself for amateur radio use. I too will acquire one when it becomes available. But my telling the list that is just noise and adds absolutely NO value to the list. I hate to think of the potential for the types of KX3 postings that have been made in the last 15 hours to continue all through 2012. Postings and commentary on some surprises in the information found at the KX3 order page http://www.elecraft.com/Misc/kx3now.htm would seem to be more useful and informative, such as: 1. KXAT3 - "Includes filter elements to optimize AM broadcast band receive (0.5-1.6 MHz)." 2. KXBC3 - "Includes real-time clock, providing time display and alarm." 3. KXPD3 - Is it really worth $130? (This is a question, not a comment.) Or, how about specific questions that remain, such as: 1. Will the KX3 manual appear for download soon? 2. Will the KX3 manual contain detailed schematics, or just module-to-module interconnections? 3. Will a KX3 purchased "assembled and tested" be assembled with purchased optional internal accessories (KXAT3, KXBC3, KXFL3) installed and tested? 4. Is the broadcast band coverage module that was proposed last May now incorporated as part of the KXAT3, as the information that Elecraft Sales sent out yesterday implies, or is there yet another device coming? 5. Will MARS firmware be available when the KX3 starts shipping? These are just a few items I can think of in about 15 minutes that would be of much greater import to the list than my posting "I ordered one too". Making a posting that says only "a KX3 has been ordered" is pure list noise. > I imagine that a whole lot of other people have been, and are, in similar > circumstances (of a very long drought - and to us this KX3 is like warm > summer rain). That's the real worry! The KX3 could easily become a landmark product purchased by thousands within a short interval. I can only hope that a very small percentage (0.001%) will feel compelled to clutter the list for months to come, with postings as seen today that add nothing but QRM. Mike / KK5F ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: Now accepting orders for the Elecraft KX3 Transceiver
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Folks - Please do -not- post criticisms of other postings or people to
the list. That only increases the overall list noise level and is specifically prohibited in the list guidelines. (guess its time to re-post those..) Also, please note that this list also exists for feedback and motivation to those of us at Elecraft. We enjoy seeing enthusiastic posts of all types. It keeps us working the long hours necessary to feed your ham radio habit ;-) Free free to complain directly to the list moderator. Do -not- attempt to moderate list postings yourself, via on-list or even via private emails. We will moderate when we feel its necessary to keep everything under control. . 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft list moderator www.elecraft.com On 12/28/2011 12:23 PM, wrote: > Great! But please...exactly **what value** is it to the list if each > of the several thousand purchasers of the KX3 post "I ordered one" or > "I ordered 13" ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: Now accepting orders for the Elecraft KX3 Transceiver
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In reply to this post by Mike Morrow-3
It's all Elecraft's fault. They:
1) make a superior product 2) keep the prices reasonable 3) actively support their product line 4) send out announcements of new products of things hams actually want 5) have earned a faithful following 6) present new products at major events (Pacificon); generate excitement 7) keep producing upgrades to firmware and hardware, improving everything 8) haven't slowed down yet. So I blame Elecraft. :-D I'll put up with the 'QRM' because it still presents an opportunity to learn, even if I don't have one of the other hardware. Rick NHC -----Original Message----- From: Ron D'Eau Claire Mike, consider that many of those posting here have no one 'live' with which to share their excitement. With every new Elecraft rig starting the ordering process, there is an avalanche of these messages from excited Hams. You call it "QRM". That's an excellent description. But understand that 90% of the messages here on any subject are just QRM to many. Consider that the K2, K1 or KX1 enthusiast who tries to follow messages about his rig must delete 99.9% of the posts here as "QRM". Even those who have the K3/P3/KPA500 "K-Line", but whose interests do not include contesting, chasing dx, and interfacing their rig with a computer, find the vast majority of messages here simply QRM. In that regard I find scanning the messages here much like scanning the Ham bands - sometimes it's interesting "reading the mail" and often not. 73, Ron AC7AC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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1) While it maybe obvious to some, the standard package does not include a power supply (just like the K1 K2 etc)
Bummer 2) In along those same lines, what is the connector, polarity of the plug, or if the optional charger was ordered, can it power the unit to 10W as well as keeping the batteries fully loaded? 3) How much would it cost to get both cables rs232 and USB (v2 or v3?) 4) Any thoughts about adding bluetooth (for mobile operation)? Just wondering a kosher ham -----Original Message----- From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]> Sender: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 12:53:27 To: <[hidden email]> Reply-To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Now accepting orders for the Elecraft KX3 Transceiver Folks - Please do -not- post criticisms of other postings or people to the list. That only increases the overall list noise level and is specifically prohibited in the list guidelines. (guess its time to re-post those..) Also, please note that this list also exists for feedback and motivation to those of us at Elecraft. We enjoy seeing enthusiastic posts of all types. It keeps us working the long hours necessary to feed your ham radio habit ;-) Free free to complain directly to the list moderator. Do -not- attempt to moderate list postings yourself, via on-list or even via private emails. We will moderate when we feel its necessary to keep everything under control. . 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft list moderator www.elecraft.com On 12/28/2011 12:23 PM, wrote: > Great! But please...exactly **what value** is it to the list if each > of the several thousand purchasers of the KX3 post "I ordered one" or > "I ordered 13" ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: Now accepting orders for the Elecraft KX3 Transceiver
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On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 13:22 -0800, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> You call it "QRM". That's an excellent description. But understand that 90% > of the messages here on any subject are just QRM to many. I think most of us are only interested in a small fraction of the messages on the list. But that fraction is different for each list user. For example, I have zero interest in the interminable microphone and headphone threads, but somebody must find the subject interesting judging by the number of postings. I figure that's what the delete key is for. Alan N1AL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Use email client's junk mail filters...
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Concurring with Alan...and pointing out that most email clients have
excellent filter mechanisms built in, so one doesn't even need to exercise a finger to press "delete." I have set a number of filters for rejection of, e.g. KX3, AGC, Microphone, Orders, Contests, Knobs. What I find to be especially helpful or interesting are hardware bug reports or difficulties for K2 and K3, transverters, etc. This tailors my incoming Elecraft traffic according to my personal interests, and since the filters are so easy to set up, one can relax them once the barrage of "me-too" contributions to a thread dies down. John Ragle -- W1ZI ===== On 12/28/2011 4:55 PM, Alan Bloom wrote: > On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 13:22 -0800, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > >> You call it "QRM". That's an excellent description. But understand that 90% >> of the messages here on any subject are just QRM to many. > I think most of us are only interested in a small fraction of the > messages on the list. But that fraction is different for each list > user. For example, I have zero interest in the interminable microphone > and headphone threads, but somebody must find the subject interesting > judging by the number of postings. I figure that's what the delete key > is for. > > Alan N1AL > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > -- Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: Now accepting orders for the Elecraft KX3 Transceiver
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In reply to this post by Mike Morrow-3
Point taken, Mike. I won't add another "me too" to the noise, but I
will be ordering a KX3 later today when I get home. In answer to your question #3 - I guess that depends on one's perspective. I can say that I had a chance to play with the KX3 equipped with the KXPD3 paddles, and liked the feel. To some, the convenience of a built-in set of paddles versus bringing one's own to the field may be important. For the time being, I'm willing to take along my Code Warrior. Also, not being much of a phone guy except in contests, I'll pass on the MH3 for the moment. The beauty of Elecraft's radios is that these options can be added at a later date if desired. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 12/28/2011 12:23 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: > Postings and commentary on some surprises in the information found at > the KX3 order page http://www.elecraft.com/Misc/kx3now.htm would seem > to be more useful and informative, such as: > 3. KXPD3 - Is it really worth $130? (This is a question, not a comment.) > That's the real worry! The KX3 could easily become a landmark product > purchased by thousands within a short interval. I can only hope that a very > small percentage (0.001%) will feel compelled to clutter the list for months > to come, with postings as seen today that add nothing but QRM. > > Mike / KK5F > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Exactly. I filter my Elecraft email by model. Each rig Elecraft produces has it's own folder and the mail therein gets read when/if I want. No wearing out of the delete or mouse button.
I learned that lesson quickly with the K3 announcement and subsequent avalanche of "when is it going to ship" noise. I have one request for all KX3 devotees and inquirers. Please standardize the subject line. If it concerns the KX3 the first three characters in the subject should be KX3, not KX-3 or KX/3 or some other derivation. It makes setting up one filter for the traffic easy and I think it's in the list guidlines as well. On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:30:45 -0500 John Ragle <[hidden email]> wrote: > Concurring with Alan...and pointing out that most email clients have > excellent filter mechanisms built in, so one doesn't even need to > exercise a finger to press "delete." I have set a number of filters for > rejection of, e.g. KX3, AGC, Microphone, Orders, Contests, Knobs. What > I find to be especially helpful or interesting are hardware bug reports > or difficulties for K2 and K3, transverters, etc. This tailors my > incoming Elecraft traffic according to my personal interests, and since > the filters are so easy to set up, one can relax them once the barrage > of "me-too" contributions to a thread dies down. > > John Ragle -- W1ZI > > ===== > > On 12/28/2011 4:55 PM, Alan Bloom wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 13:22 -0800, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > > > >> You call it "QRM". That's an excellent description. But understand that 90% > >> of the messages here on any subject are just QRM to many. > > I think most of us are only interested in a small fraction of the > > messages on the list. But that fraction is different for each list > > user. For example, I have zero interest in the interminable microphone > > and headphone threads, but somebody must find the subject interesting > > judging by the number of postings. I figure that's what the delete key > > is for. > > > > Alan N1AL > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Exactly. I filter my Elecraft email by model. Each rig Elecraft produces has it's own folder and the mail therein gets read when/if I want. No wearing out of the delete or mouse button.
I learned that lesson quickly with the K3 announcement and subsequent avalanche of "when is it going to ship" noise. I have one request for all KX3 devotees and inquirers. Please standardize the subject line. If it concerns the KX3 the first three characters in the subject should be KX3, not KX-3 or KX/3 or some other derivation. It makes setting up one filter for the traffic easy and I think it's in the list guidlines as well. On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:30:45 -0500 John Ragle <[hidden email]> wrote: > Concurring with Alan...and pointing out that most email clients have > excellent filter mechanisms built in, so one doesn't even need to > exercise a finger to press "delete." I have set a number of filters for > rejection of, e.g. KX3, AGC, Microphone, Orders, Contests, Knobs. What > I find to be especially helpful or interesting are hardware bug reports > or difficulties for K2 and K3, transverters, etc. This tailors my > incoming Elecraft traffic according to my personal interests, and since > the filters are so easy to set up, one can relax them once the barrage > of "me-too" contributions to a thread dies down. > > John Ragle -- W1ZI > > ===== > > On 12/28/2011 4:55 PM, Alan Bloom wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 13:22 -0800, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > > > >> You call it "QRM". That's an excellent description. But understand that 90% > >> of the messages here on any subject are just QRM to many. > > I think most of us are only interested in a small fraction of the > > messages on the list. But that fraction is different for each list > > user. For example, I have zero interest in the interminable microphone > > and headphone threads, but somebody must find the subject interesting > > judging by the number of postings. I figure that's what the delete key > > is for. > > > > Alan N1AL > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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